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@Someone here I don't think we are in disagreement. The argument that I investigated was a fusion of yours and that of Hojo.
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What you are describing is dangerous escapist ascetic ideology. The notion that material reality is somehow illusionary and needs to be avoided is outdated. Have you red the religion of tomorrow by Ken Wilber? It is a form of sklavenmoral. If you think about it, those two sentences are in conflict with each other. If god is everything, how is it even possible not to experience god?
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In one post I postulated: In another one I argued, that hermeneutics teaches us, that the understanding and therefore the production of a text requires iterative and holistic understanding. It seems that the attention mechanism in LLMs is somehow implementing the Wholeness fragment of Spirit. If this is further investigated, it can lead to ideas on how to improve LLMs and maybe help to develop AGI, if that's even a good thing.
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What would you do?
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Yes. I already used it to gain insights into why LLMs need both GPUs and CPUs in order to be effective for example: But I don't think much about tech for now. I first want to see if it is possible to ground it in hard science.
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Okay let's answer to the objection: "The map is not the territory, therefore there can not be a theory of everything". (MINT) What this means specifically is "the word is not the existence it points to". An example of someone who falls into this trap is someone who reads a description of god experience and then mistakes that description for god without seeking it out in contemplation. The Existence Space It seems that there is a space of all possible "ways" to exist. This space seems to be some weird mathematical object that I'm trying to describe. My theory is, that this space has already been described with language, with each word pointing to some spot in this space. Chopping up this space is arbitrary, and it is a trap to believe that any "chopping" is absolute. However, if you want to learn through distinctions, you will need to chop in some way since you can't differentiate between different existences without the respective concepts, so without concepts, existence is just one big blob. The moment you realize that a word is a pointer and the point of the word is not that you stop at the word but to follow where it leads you, you have made a big step towards becoming immune to the MINT fallacy. Now we're getting technical So what would it mean to have a theory of everything? This is what I mean when I say TOE: A TOE is a theory that gives a method on how to reach every point in this existence space. If this existence space is a vector space, what this means technically is, that a TOE would have to provide a basis of that space, ideally an orthogonal one. It was never the claim that my TOE would substitute existing itself and this is also not necessary. It is a tool to map existence so you can increase awareness on how you exist in the here and now. What is Mathematics? You might say: "The moment you said something about a mathematical object you've lost me. Math is just mental masturbation. It's not empirical". Here is where it gets really interesting. According to my theory, empiricism is a system that assumes, the fragment of Interaction can't be omitted. This is a trap, since it is only one fragment of existence. Mathematics and therefore rationalism do not fall into this trap, which is why they are superior. When you say "mathematics is just a castle that has no basis in direct existence" (I'm trying to avoid the word experience since it assumes Interaction) I say this is sentence is exactly false. I agree that it can be a trap to be so in awe of the beauty of such a castle that you never ask what it actually relates to in reality. So my approach to Mathematics is to primarily investigate the foundations of such castles instead. What exactly does it mean that an axiom is "obviously true"? What makes a good axiom? Hear me out. My take is that the reason why an axiom seems obviously true to you is because you and the axiom are both fragments, and you recognize each other. So when your spirit sees a good axiom it says to itself: "If this is false, then I don't exist". If this isn't beautiful, I don't know what is. I believe that all axioms in mathematics can be derived from the existence of some set of fragments, of which my 8 are a subset. Further, I claim that it can be proven, that these fragments need to exist, since if they don't, reality would collapse. There is the sketch of the proof at the beginning of the tread. I believe that all good assumptions in every other field can also be validated with the fragments. Because of the fragment of Wholeness, every fragment is relevant at every level of granularity of reality. So it seems, the mathematical description of the Whole lies in the fractal. SCIENCE IS SO BACK
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Wow, thanks y'all for the encouragement I appreciate it a lot
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@jacknine119 It seems you got the whole spectrum of answers to chose from 😂
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Cred replied to Schahin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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I am currently studying the purpose of different peculiarities of the mind and this includes paranoia. I came to the conclusion that it is dangerous to tell people "just look at the facts, you are hallucinating". I believe, that paranoia is a warning mechanism that should not be ignored and explained away. My theory is, that paranoia is your unconscious trying to communicate with you. If you analyze it's content on basis of facts, you will not be able to decipher it's meaning. A delusional paranoid thought is just as non-factual as a dream, and it contains just as much information about yourself. If you want to get to the bottom of a delusional paranoid thought, you have to analyze it like you would analyze a dream. Look for symbols. What does each element represent in your life? What might a poisoned toothbrush symbolize in your life for example? I want you to do exactly what is frowned upon in epistemics: Project "But when you project, the information is biased from your own lens!" Yes this is exactly the goal. When you project, you can learn valuable things about yourself through analyzing that projection, since the projection is a part of you. This is also the point of tarot, astrology, etc. and the reason why this kind of esotericism, dreams and hallucinations don't contain facts or "real" information, because it is not the purpose of these things to carry information. The goal was never to learn about planets, it was always to learn about yourself. To me, it kinda seems like you don't feel comfortable with city life. Being overwhelmed is common for neurodivergent people like HSPs. Maybe you should move to a quieter place with more fresh air or something. Just a suggestion. What is important to understand is, that paranoia is a symptom. If you just treat the symptom and not the cause, you won't heal.
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Exactly. The belief that awakening can substitute for emotional development is well known in the spirituality community and is called "spiritual bypassing".
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First I want to say, I'm not an expert and this does not substitute for medical advice. I advise you to seek professional help. However, I want to add that a "professional" can still be incompetent and not reach the core of the problem. What you are describing sounds like alternating mania (you feel like you are on top of the world) and depression (you feel like shit) which is called manic depression (bipolar). I'm not saying that you qualify for a diagnosis but what I am saying, is that what you experience is the same mechanism behind what bipolar people experience, even if it is not as extreme for you as for someone who is diagnosed. It is important for you to understand that you cannot meditate yourself out of a personality disorder. I believe that a personality disorder is the natural reaction to an unbearable life situation, not a "bug" of the body or a cancer if you will. It has a purpose. If somebody gives you the order to carry two 50 kilo bags of concrete for 20 meters and your muscles give in after 10 meters, it is not because there is something wrong with you. It's a healthy reaction of the body to make you stop abusing yourself. Being enlightened while carrying the bags in not going to do shit. Your attitude to pain will maybe change, but your muscles will still give in. All enlightenment will do is distract you from doing what you need to do which is to quit the job. So what is the purpose of the manic depression? Depression is the psychological equivalent of your muscles giving in. It is your body having an intervention with your mind. It is a message to you from the body which is: What you are doing right now in your life is not right for you. When you are depressed you cannot move and are forcefully separated from your life situation/routine, which is a good thing, since the goal is to separate anyway, at least on the long run. The depression also gives you time to think and reflect about your life situation. During this time, you are supposed to activate the default mode network (ask an LLM what the DMN does), let your mind wander and think about your values and your life and how the former aligns with the latter. Just try to avoid falling into negative spirals. The fact that you are neurotic in a depression is also a good thing. Neuroticism means focussing on the bad which is exactly what you are supposed to do when your life is shit, so you know what is wrong and what you need to change. The purpose of the energy in the manic state is to use it to then actually do the steps necessary to change your life. Quit your job, exmatriculate, etc. If you instead use this energy on distractions like meditating, watching actualized.org or doubling down on your current life situation, you will just end up falling into the hole again. If you never realize that your life situation (this could be unsuitable job/education, toxic family, toxic friends etc.) is the problem, you will be stuck in this cycle forever. You can be thankful that you developed manic depression. Some people don't tend to not get any personality disorder from excessive stress and this includes me (I think Leo is also a candidate). This is called functional depression ("just push through" attitude). It is good for succeeding in capitalism, but it is awful for your health. It took me too long to change my lifestyle because of this and I suffer chronic pain as a result. The last thing you need to understand is neurodiversity. Maybe you read this and say "sure my life is tough but isn't is supposed to be like this? Also, my life is great I have nothing to complain about". What you need to understand is that "a good life" for a neurotypical person looks entirely different from an authentic life of a neurodivergent person. I have made a lot of posts about this already. I suggest you to read: This is also relevant:
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Ah okay I think I get it. Thanks for elaborating. I assume with "they" you mean emptiness and authenticity? Can you please define what you mean when you say "absolute" and "god" and how your definitions are seperate from emptiness. Currently my definitions are: The absolute is the set of all possible ideas (spirit fragments) and therefore fragments and therefore existences plus emptiness The Spirit is the Fragment which is the set of fragments that actually managed to come into existence in this universe. I described how that happend in a recent post. Emptiness is non-spirit. My current definition of God is: The Fragment + emptiness If you mean emptiness when you talk about the absolute, can you differentiate it from asceticism?
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@Anton Rogachevski How it started was with the question "how can I live an authentic life with my neurodiversity?" And this is still my number one goal. Just to live authentically and balanced. The theory is at the end just a medium to archive that. This is also the most healthy way to approach this. This does not mean that I don't think the theory has potential. I said this already but the fact that it is metaphysically satisfying at the Genisis level is only the cherry on top. I can see a clear path on how it can revolutionize and unify almost all important fields of human knowledge and answer almost all of the biggest questions of mankind. I'm realizing that it is hard to convince people of this but this is a good thing. This gives me the time I need to work on and write about it. My plan now is to just develop the theory, use it to answer big questions and communicate these answers to people who can comprehend them. Eventually it will accumulate and spread I believe. The world is a web after all (see theory of six degrees of separation)
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What do you mean by "reaction to conformity" Also what do you mean with being aligned with the absolute. Isn't the absolute everything? So it's impossible not to align with the absolute? Do you mean align with emptiness?
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@gettoefl I'm not sure what you mean. Can you please elaborate?
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So the answer "what is God" depends on who you ask. When you say God=Spirit, you are outing yourself as the Fragment.
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@Stick No. Spirit is the Fragment and the Fragment is existence from the perspective of the Fragment. From the perspective of each of the fragments, only that fragment is existence to itself and the others are non-existence. From the perspective of God, both the Absolute and the Fragment are emptiness (neither existence nor non-existence) This means, when you see reality as emptiness, you see the reality the way God sees reality.
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Spirit is a sloppy translation of the german Word "Geist". ChatGPT: "“Geist” is a central term in German philosophy. It is usually translated as “spirit” or sometimes “mind,” but neither English word fully captures its meaning. Its meaning shifts depending on the philosopher, but in general: Geist = the dynamic, self-reflective, meaning-creating dimension of reality that appears in thought, culture, and history."
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Schizotypy is Anticipation of Spirit (Anticipation is an 8th one I found. When I was writing the proof, I thought anticipation is a form of difference, like I thought Space is a form of the whole) People who are Schizotypy live in anticipation and therefore in the future. Anticipation is openness. They are the prophets and the conspiracy theorists. They tend to be paranoid, since paranoia is being open to possibility of being decieved
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Dyslexia is low Sequentiality of Spirit. Writing is a manifestation of Sequenciality. This is why they tend to switch letters for example. Dyslexic people tend to have high Wholeness of Spirit. When they look at the text, they fail to see the details, but they excel at seeing the content of the text as a whole. Hermeneutics tells us that without the whole, understanding is not possible. Autism is high Sequentiality of Spirit. Analysis is Sequentiality plus Difference. Autism is low Simultainity of Spirit. People with high Simultainity of Spirit tend to recieve multiple bits of information at the same time, conveyed through the symbol and learned through synchronicity. Autistic people tend to be overwhelmed when met with a lot of stimulation since they process one bit of information at a time. This means that the brain of an autistic person is more CPUey and the brain of a non-autistic person is more GPUey. Edit: Since language is both symbolic and sequencial, it explains why LLMs are most effective when CPUs work together with GPUs. It also explains why some extremely autistic people can't talk, while other autistic people are hyper verbal if they are also high Simultainity of spirt. Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro are perfect examples of this. ADHD is Impulse of Spirit. HSP (eso-head) is Interaction of Spirit. This is a tough one. My claim is that subjectivity and emotion is interaction. If you think about it, there is no phenomenon without something interacting.
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Yes! What I'm describing is the anatomy of the spirit.
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@Anton Rogachevski First, it is important to note that I have absolutely no idea what modal logic is😅 At the beginning, it was not my goal to end on some super abstract metaphysical theory at all. I just studied the lived experience of neurodivergent people. You can track my posting history. At the beginning I only posted about things that are directly relevant to everyday living. So we don't disagree at all here. Before I did all of this my take on metaphysics went literally like "I don't get the point of metaphysics. Isn't this just elaborate speculation?" What happened though, is that I found that I can not understand neurodivergency deeply enough without continuing to abstract. This is how I arrived here. Neurodiversity seems to point to the strucure of spirit itself, which is why it is necessary to move to this level of abstraction. Edit: All of these modes of existence can be observed in everyday living and are incredebly relevant, not just for theorizing, but also for self-actualization
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1. If you think about it, facts=existence is not that radical. What would be the alternative?
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6. I also found the wholeness argument the hardest to grasp. It might be wrong of course. My argument is that in order for things to interact, there has to be the possibility of "thing" first and this can non exist without wholeness. Think of non-wholeness as "radically diffuse" If wholeness is a mode of existence, this means that emergence is just as real as reduction
