Elliott

@Hatfort are you a socialist?

Good, because most people don't including the officials that look over elections internationally.

You believe those numbers?

There's been tons of anti war protests, an actual military mutiny even.

Putins opponent wasn't allowed to run in the election. https://www.npr.org Russian anti-war politician Nadezh blocked from running against Putin Feb 8, 2024 · TALLINN, Estonia (AP) — Antiwar politician Boris Nadezhdin was rejected Thursday as a candidate in next month's presidential … Why did russias elite unit mutiny then

Even Russia had a mutiny, has Ukraine had any sort of mutiny? The country opposes the war, where are even protests. You say Russians support the war, yet they had mass protests and a mutiny all the way in Moscow with a standing army. At some point you have to look at reality.

There would be some level of mutiny obviously, you're deflecting. Russia had a mutiny even.

How many zelensky lieutenants have been assassinated then, the rubber meets the road somewhere.

So, easy to overthrow or be bought by Russia.

Trump was almost assassinated twice in the u.s. with no war. Zelensky is surrounded by people that would kill him if you were right., has there been any attempt even.

He would be assassinated, easily. These soldiers are dying, they would marter themselves. You can't logistically have an election.

How is zelensky not overthrown then? Your scenario is nonsensical.

You think NATO would attack Russia, the largest nuclear stockpiler, that's ludicrous. Have you seen how big Russia is on a map, they need 4 oblasts for a buffer.

@Breakingthewall You can see the line on satelite images. https://www.businessinsider.com › ukraine-kursk-shows-ability... Ukraine Showing It Can Win Without West's Advice: Retired NATO General ... Sep 3, 2024 · A retired general who helped lead NATO said it shows what Ukraine can do without much Western advice. "Ukraine can win this

Ukrainian troops are going to choose to die for the u.s., ya right. Critical thinking please, not only would troops defect, Zelensky is easy to overthrow.

If that were true you would just see defections from Ukraines military to Russia and the war would be over, you see the opposite. Nothing you post makes sense past basic critical thinking. What does zelensky have to gain from losing a war as you say is imminent, while just needing to pull back from nato to end the war.

I said Putin would likely be overthrown, that would be the end of the war. There's no reason Russia would be concerned about NATO unless their intention is to control Ukraine, Putin himself publicly stated for years that Ukraine was to be under Russia. That's demonstrably false, Russias first incursion was for Kyiv, of which your elite military failed miserably against sleeping Ukraine. You don't understand modern warfare, there's no need to sacrifice Ukrainians to keep Russia from advancing as slow as they are, Defensive positions are better for wars of attrition, not offensive like Russia is doing, you can see it in their losses. Business Insider https://www.businessinsider.com › russia-economy-wealth-fund... "Russia Economy: Wealth Fund Could Run Out This Year, Cripple War Effort ... Jan 14, 2025 · Russia is facing a critical challenge to its war effort in 2025: The nation is quickly running out of cash, with financial reserves"

Whether Ukraine joins NATO or not, doesn't threaten RUSSIA though, Ukraine can already join in any assault the u.s. orchestrates, NATO is a defensive alliance, the u.s. has non NATO countries it allies with militarily to overthrow regimes already, see Syria and Israel. Ukraine joining NATO makes zero difference, Ukraine can already attack Russia with the u.s. Russia, the largest stockpile of nuclear warheads is afraid of conventional warfare in the 21st century? No, it's about Russian imperialism. True, the u.s. could use close cultural ties to overthrow a Russian dictator, why would they overthrow a peaceful leader though? That renders the argument moot for anyone other than a dictator, I can't imagine you believe the world should sacrifice Ukraine for Putin's musings. NATO is not a country it's a defensive alliance Ukraine wants in because Russia toppled it's neighbors before Ukraine ever tried to join nato, see chechnya. First off, I'm not arguing for anything u.s. to be allowed in Ukraine, that would be imperialist. China wouldn't do that, there's no reason to in a nuclear world. I don't think the u.s. would invade Mexico, either way i would oppose it. They would cut them off economically and build bases in Taiwan. China already has military ties in the Americas by the way. They would likely lift some sanctions on energy but I don't think European leaders trust Russia anymore and will cut every other tie they can which will prevent any growth, otherwise why haven't they already agreed to that. No one cares about Ukraine joining NATO except Ukraine, you think Europe would cut sanctions but not cancel Ukraines bid for NATO, that makes no sense, if so what else does Russia want in your mind, why haven't they agreed?

I already admitted that Russia views it as an existential threat, to Russian expansion. Why don't you answer the simple question? No one is putting a nuke in Ukraine, do you really believe that? It makes no difference what NATO does anywhere,they are at a nuclear stalemate with Russia. Is NATO controlling Kosovo and Libya? Iraq? Russia needs to build a coalition diplomatically, no facade USSR is going to lead the world like they want. They're stuck in the 19th century way of thinking. If Russia would quit invading countries Ukraine would have no need to join NATO. Ask Chechnya why Ukraine and Georgia are interested in NATO. NATO was working with Russia and developing together, NATO didn't sabotage them. That's gone for decades now, Russia is done like Iran. The public is clueless about sanctions, does the public have outrage about sanctions on Iran, no.

It's going on 4 years, that only gained 1% last year, and had their heaviest losses, experts predict Russia can only sustain 2 years more at most, that's 2% more. Russia isn't winning the war, 1% last year, a year you claim to be their strongest, where they lost the most men and equipment, is not winning by any serious standard. Ukraine has military allies that makeup an equipment supply that dwarfs Russia. You're subscribing to a 19th century view on warfare. Sanctions are 21st century warfare, they alone have crumbled iran, this is why Ukraine is not acting more offensive. This is how warfare goes and Ukraine is winning, it's not men lining up to shoot at each other that determines wars anymore, we're way past bombs even.

Ukrainians support the war, that's why they're fighting on the front lines instead of surrendering like Russians. Why do you have no concerns for Russian lives, why shouldn't Russia leave Ukraine, they're having more Russians killed than Ukrainians are dying. Why do you value Ukrainians more than Russians.

You just keep lying and I don't understand why. Why are you trying to speak for Ukrainians and make their decisions? Russia has had more Russians killed, where is your concern for them? https://news.gallup.com › poll › ukrainians-stand-behind-war... "Ukrainians Stand Behind War Effort Despite Some Fatigue - Gallup.com Oct 9, 2023 · President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a key figure in national support for the war. His personal approval ratings remain sky-high in 2023 (81%). Ukrainians who The People Stand Behind Their Military: Ukrainians’ faith in their troops remains unshakeable, with 95% having confidence in the military in 2023, in line with the"

Last year Russia only took less than 1% of Ukraine. The bulk of Russias position is from the beginning of the invasion. Russia thought they would take all of Ukraine in 3 days, it's going on 4 years, they gained 1% last year. Why do you think you should tell Ukraine what to do? Russia has lost more people.

1% last year. That's not winning.

Russia only took less than 1% of Ukraine last year, that's barely anything and in a rural area, it's weird you're making it seem so alarming. Why do you act like you care so much about Ukraine's wellbeing, then you want them to capitulate while they are wanting to fight? Why do you care so much about getting Ukraine to let Russia takeover their country?