Elliott

That's not to say most guys are ready for a real relationship.... just that when/if they are, average is plenty good enough. Most guys aren't confidently ready for a real relationship, so they just seek sex.

Even in the 20s, sure guys are infatuated with the model type, but put a hygenic girl as @CARDOZZO says in front of them and they're satisfied, (for marriage they want more than hygiene but not in the looks department). Sure they'll rank girls based on the model type, but really, they're satisfied with average looking girls. Just as 20s girls are infatuated with rich Chad's, most are still completely satisfied with normies. Really, the only problem is individually, the guys and girls being ready for a real relationship, most knowingly aren't and are insecure about it.

I actually don't think regular guys have high standards either. I think the high standards on both sides of this conversation are internet/not real world. Guys don't care about makeup and dressing like a model.

To find someone offering fatherly love, not looking for just sex?

Get off the internet

Most guys are not incels. Less than 10%

Will a guy marry, and not divorce a woman that only has basic hygiene? No chores, no job, no taking care of babies, terrible communicator?

You're talking about just sex, not long term relationships? We're talking about long-term relationships, starting a family.

So no house chores, no job, terrible communicator, doesn't raise kids.

*while both the man and woman work full time jobs If a man cleans around the house, and communicates, he's considered incredible. All of this is expected of average women. These guys are coming from Redpill "man need 6 figures and be ceo", that's not what feminists are talking about, that's patriarchy. Guys are considered incredible with a normal job, cleaning, and communicating.

This is the sentiment I think she's talking about Vs materialistic culture(patriarchy)

If a society is green, which is what spiral dynamics is about, not individuals, they have no one to fight upward against, they run society.

Its a central thing to green "Orange (Achievement): Values meritocracy, competition, and success; can use patriarchal structures for personal gain but also challenges them with logic, seeing value in ability over gender. Green (Egalitarian/Communitarian): Actively fights patriarchy through social justice, empathy, and inclusion; focuses on equality, though can sometimes get stuck in "us vs. them" dynamics against oppressors. "

Which would point to "Green" dismantling the patriarchy.

You're completely missing what she's talking about, it has nothing to do with gender roles. I suggest you re-read her previous post slower.

Spiral Dynamics is only a theory

? Where did she mention institutions? By patriarchy, she's referring to the dynamic and mindset of society, not who are ceos and presidents.

I'd suggest reading it again while being critical of your sexist claim.

She's interesting personally, also the epitome of evangelical fallacy; never had a job, didn't marry until 33 to 28 year old kirk.

What if we do it to make people angry? -he/him

This is a lie told to the masses by all billionaires, his kids don't work and they're rich, their job is 'philanthropist', lol. He's donating his wealth to charities alright, his KIDS charities. His 'farmer' son also just so happens to be CHAIRMAN of Berkshire Hathaway, obviously an earned roll, lol, farming really taught him about hedge fund management 🤣. Charities are how wealthy launder money to avoid the 40% estate tax, they'd rather direct that 40% exactly where they want over 10 years running a charity than lose it in 1 day. His kids were millionaires from inheritance before buffett has even died. The tax strategy for the wealthy is to give the inheritance EARLY, they got theirs at 19, you save millions in taxes.

Doomed

He's got that actualized philosopher look. Do we need to start a gofundme for someone's bail on here?

That was kind of hot....

Phonetics would be pronouncing and speaking the language correctly and applying that to reading. English and Spanish are nowhere near the same phonetics. Pronounce this in Spanish; Jaimaica, Jose, Juan.... correctly like an H is phonetics. Reading it with the H sound is phonetics. You're admitting you don't need phonetics to read(understand writing, nothing to do with speaking or hearing others) 'Whole Word Method' does teach phonetics at the beginning, the issue in this thread is that people want a lot more focus on phonetics than what we've had. You have to learn phonetics to speak and hear a new word, that's what speaking is. Phonetics is thought to "decode" written language through the sounds of that language.