Elliott

That's what American movies show it as anyway, I think you might have a false impression. Despite Jesus being co-opted for crusades, which were just a continuation of the Roman empires attempt to retake the eastern Roman Empire, the catholic church still taught Jesus's teachings, even though heavily molested. Imagine a modern Roman Empire with modern weapons, what if Europe was never Christian, regardless of how perverted a version. What other competing message of morality was there?

I don't understand what you're saying, if you want to zoom in on a technology or person, I welcome that. I think of the human experience, imagine living in ancient greece, ancient America, it's different, but has technology improved something. Is the American native experience living with nature and awe, worth giving up for more babies surviving? But something that seems empiraclly better to me, is what MLK did, Jesus, Lincoln,.....

Plato lived until 80. Usually those age statistics include babies dying at birth.

I mean look at the meaningful changes in history, looking at history completely.

And would 3rd world shitholes be shitholes were it not for the industrialized west? Was ancient greece a shithole?

I guess I would just put more emphasis on "look at the arc of history", what impact did the light bulb, printing press, telephone... actually make? That's what I was trying to show. I quoted you before your edits, I will read it again.

It's more like making raping boys illegal, if it was legal more priests would do it. "But some boys and priests love each other!"

Yes when you consider; poorer sleep, industrial pollution from the resultant more industry, and also the disparity and separation of people from the resulting industrial advancement: not in the west, but the west compared to poorer cultures. It has positives too, healthcare advancements, food,.... but it's net-zero, I'm not saying it's bad, just not objectively good either. Look at before the press: Socrates, Siddhartha Gautama, Jesus, Aurelius, Thomas Aquinas, Ancient Greece, ..... that's what people learned before the press, now they learn women's porn fiction. People have only so much 'bandwidth', it's flooded with garbage. Before, the only writings were significant. Again, there are also positives and it's not bad, it's net-zero, it's not objectively good. The bloodshed was already there, the bloodshed after Jesus was in his name but only because the Roman's used it to continue their bloodshed. Do you sincerely attribute bloodshed to Jesus? Look at the arc of history.

How do you define white supremacy, what makes it so that there is white supremacy?

The Ukrainians, Uhygurs, Kurd's, Georgians, Chechians, and Taiwanese would like a word.....

Could you give examples of wealthy change-makers: I disagree, technological advancements come with just as much drawbacks as 'progress', they're net-zero. Cultural and moral change is profound though.

MLK, Harvey Milk, Malcolm X, Jesus, Martin Luther, Greta, Obama, Mandela, Lincoln, John Brown,.... Who are you thinking of?

In the Bible belt there are a TON of black Christian pro-lifers that are democrats. Pro life democrat would win in Alabama and Missisippi, they're actually not as solidly republican as they seem. Pro-life is present amongst Hispanics too, and union workers in west Virginia area. 3 pro life democrats in congress with 350 pro choice democrats is FINE. It's not a shift to the right, It's reality, some democrats, a certain niche are pro-life. Pro-choice is not a party issue, it is the consensus. Red states have had voter referendums upending their idiot legislatures abortion bans. It's no different than accepting the socialists even though they promote killing ceo's. Consider that these pro life democrats also support taking care of poor people, universal Healthcare, believing rape victims,..... Socialists are so cringe and 'high and mighty'

If you want to pursue money you should, just when you get to the point where you're done with it, move on. Rich people are just as toxic as poor people, as scary as that sounds: there are non-toxic poors and rich, the area with the most non-toxic seems to be the middle: because it has the most people. I stand by "sub-cultures; volunteers, Buddhists, mindfulness, arts, ....." If you want to affect positive change, look at the people that have done the most; they weren't rich.

So, this guy is supposedly racist against white people, but he's a fan of white Leo on his forum full of mostly white people? It was just coarse language. @Twentyfirst ,purpletree defends palestine.

The stat you just qouted me posting says the opposite.

It's typically democrats that do better in presidential elections compared to other elections. "2022 midterm example: A Pew Research Center report found that in the 2022 midterms, a higher percentage of 2020 Trump voters (71%) turned out compared to 2020 Biden voters (67%)"

It's in the bag Newsweek Map Shows Where Democrats Are Overperforming in Special Elections Sep 10, 2025 — Special election results, some of which have seen Democrats overperform Harris by 50 points or more, "Recently, global investment bank UBS announced that, after crunching some “hard data” from between May and July 2025, there’s a 93% chance of the U.S. entering a recession this year [1]." https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/economy/major-bank-raises-red-flag-on-us-economy-warns-of-93-chance-of-recession-based-on-hard-data-here-are-5-crucial-money-moves-you-need-to-make-now/ar-AA1NxOnq?ocid=BingNewsVerp

We are on the brink of war with Russia, they flew nuclear bombers near the u.s. last week. I don't think it will come to war but obviously the military needs to prepare for it.

There's a Meidas video about how Trump changed the miss teen usa audition requirements to have the girls in bikinis, and he personally judged the auditions. A different Meidas video, there was a 90s news article of trumps miss teen usa party with the girls on a yacht with millionaires.

So, what does it mean by "extremism on gender"? @Inliytened1 @carterfelder , this isn't fascism?

What damage? 'Republican' has been damaged, 'Democratic' has been strengthened by the overt republican corruption. Democrats have been winning in red districts. It's not about talent, democrats win on policy, it's republicans only way to win is by smoke and mirrors shows. https://www.npr.org/2025/09/24/nx-s1-5551198/democrat-wins-congressional-seat-in-arizona-narrowing-gops-slim-house-majority

Going to be a lot of big payouts for violating rights. Hassan still thinks dems are the same though.

What is a mind? A mind would mean there's something outside of the mind. Consider there is no movement, what you perceive as movement or time, as something happening, consider nothing is happening.