Elliott

Oh my God you're even doing the bOtH sIdEs now.

You guys are valuing yourselves based off of Leo whom you have an identity attachment with, it's like teenagers acting out against their parents. You two gotta do therapy for your Leo issues. Im being serious, I'm not downplaying Leo's issues.

Fuck

Certainly

@Joshe but I no longer believe you're being sincere in your dialogue on this issue, i don't believe you're being open-minded. Thank you for the effort you put in to explain your view to me though. Ciao

@Carl-Richard so your complaint with me and Father Wilhelm is that we question a part of an argument? This is counterproductive to you? I don't understand the complaint, by questioning a single part I do not dismiss the other parts. Do you see a difference between the scientific method and debate?

Wow, any critical questioning of either of your theories and you both go off the rails emotionally.

I didn't say that, I said I saw it as incoherent, I was and still am open minded to the possibility that you're correct.

I was being sincere when i said i think you're very intelligent. Even intelligent people fall into dunning-kruger, it's called Expertise Transfer Fallacy. I'm not sure what you're an expert in professionaly, I previously thought it was something in psychology, to be transparent. I never tried to explain narcissism, i was asking questions to elicit critical thinking in yourself around your ideas that i saw as incoherent. I apologize if this wasn't evident, I was trying to understand your view, not narcissism.

My working theory is something like you've come to the realization that Leo is not what you thought he was. Maybe you trusted him and followed him down a bit of a path and now realized he misled you, he was deceitful. You feel betrayed, scared, confused so you're lashing out with hyperbolic accusations to receive somewhat of an apology from Leo. I just threw that together AD-HOC cowboy style, very intuitive flow sort of drivel, but it's just to illustrate the thought behind my question.

Yes yes, sure sure

Glazed right over my other question Mr.Psych......

I have never posted an AI response, you've said this before, I never posted an ai response in my life.

We see trump in much more than one online wild forum, we have decades of crime and real life behavior documented. I know you're very intelligent, by the following I don't mean that you're exhibiting the dunning-kreuger effect, but what you're posting is.

Grandiosity is not narcissism, especially on the internet......

@Carl-Richard Are you sure this isn't about resentment on your part toward Leo? A 'never meet your heroes' sort of situation?

More strawmanning, I mean in the normal sense of knowing, like a psychologist would know. You're being strangely flippant on this topic. Sadghuru is still categorically not a charlatan right?

Oh Carl, out here strawmanning my post. My post is about Joshes argument. There's no way you can know he's a narcissist. You mastered in psychology right? I can't believe you're condoning this haphazard accusation.

Just the murder rate you pointed out, they're effectively at war with the gangs, it'd be like someone in Ukraine right now with Russian military tattoos, they'd be arrested I guarantee you. Think of it like a civil war, a Confederate in the civil war, or someone with Al qaeda paraphernalia after 9/11.

I think it would be useful for people that are less familiar with the subjects discussed.

No

@integral what AI are you using in this?

This makes it MUCH muddier to me, it appears to me to be obviously incoherent. So, you think Leo subconsciously wants approval yet he can consciously override his subconscious narcissism that he's unaware of, to allow threads like this on his forum? Yet he does not override his "overt narcissism", that he's regularly publicly derided about, on his forum, where he allows the derision. He has the control to stand here and take this, he's been posting in other threads during this, yet he lacks the ability to learn impulse control to mask the "overt narcissism"? He can control his narcissistic impulse right now to not close threads like these, this is a month old, but he cannot learn impulse control for what he's regularly publicly derided about, but he allows the public derision that he can end with the swipe of a mouse, an impulse that you're now saying he's unaware of?

Is the girl I posted pretty?

Interesting. Do you think you could ever find 17 year old girls with down syndrome to be sexually attractive?