Elliott

My gotcha was not about trade. Marxism is a stateless ideology. You're confusing pre "revolution" trade policy with post. Lenin was a protectionist, not free trader.

Do you consider yourself to be familiar with Marxism?

But you hate that at an individual level(capitalism)

That is the issue with marxism, it's capitalism in sheep's clothing. Big industry is the problem, there will not be a magical leap of consciousness for society by merely changing to socialism. The people right now have the power to stop being Ultra-Consumers and they don't, they over-consume more and more. The power is already in the people's hands and they collectively rape with it, they will do that with socialism and worse because it will have to be authoritarian, you will have no individual choice where to buy anything from or who to work for, it will all be decided "collectively". Bottom-up decentralized "socialism", (this is capitalism). "Workers unite! And just quit being stupid."

And you want to throw this happiness away because you're brainwashed by a cult. Socialists absolutely do that. The PSL party(socialist party) in the u.s. makes everyone take a pledge and rigidly accept everything the leadership decrees, no different than China, or ussr states. China and Russia Control can be by manipulation, not just physical control. So, if UK went Socialist, you would be okay with them continuing their current relationship the way it is with the u.s. and Israel?(not "isolate") Ya, top-down can only be authoritarian, hence "top-down". The bottom-up (co-ops) can be liberal.

I'm not saying to drop your belief system, I'm trying to show you why I think it's silly. Moving to those communities makes sense to me if you truly believe in it, supporting capitalism living here being the antithesis. Corporatism and socialism are brothers, not opposites. Both authoritarian. Opposites in reckless theory, only. Under capitalism, the workers have the ability, right now, stop buying from and working for corporations. I don't support corporatism, tax corporations and billionaires out of existence. I'm not a liberterian, I find that more foolish than socialism. I'd be interested to hear more on this, I see no validity in this view. I've ran into what I consider dumb dead ends every path of socialism I've explored. I like the community level, I consider that egalitarian, while 'socialism' being more similar to a broad government, hence the top-down rather than bottom-up approach by socialists "Revolu-tion!" vs, "let's start a co-op".

Was it Jeffries or Schumer that went Socialist when I wasn't looking? What "radical policy" did this, all-knowing Socialists? It was the republicans radical policy. Now we're winning, because Americans want sanity, and you want us to copy the republicans losing strategy! Heil Marx! ✋️ You're in a cult

Why don't you join one then, instead of trying to force all of us to convert? Grow marxism from grassroots, rather than from pirating, is what I was saying. Go be a successful community, everyone will flock to it and convert. Be a shining light on the hill! You guys seem to be ensnared in a psyop, to me. The socialist arguments don't hold up to any bit of scrutiny, it's all feelings. I myself am an egalitarian, everyone deserves everything equally, but this binary argument of socialism vs. Corporatism is very childish.

I think it's obvious even marxists don't believe in marxism, for one simple reason; they don't start a Marxist community and grow it. Instead, Marxists want to hijack a capitalist community. Look at their excuses with USSR; " The u.s. isolated them", so, they needed capitalism to survive? USSR was largest empire in history, is there a minimum amount of land area they need that's larger than Siberia? They're binary-thinking idiots, authoritarian cultists.

I find it odd how cavalier Europeans are on the Iran issue. Iran can reach Europe with it's missiles, and surely would strike Europe in the event of a war.

The idiotic reckless language used by people like AOC is more harmful than any programs people support. You actually may be right though, AOC is so stupid she probably doesn't even know what socialism actually is, her and bumbling Bernie think social security is socialism.

-We're all in this together. And I'm certain we will win, things are already moving that way. This means, this is not all on your shoulders, we all 'got this', you can relax and let go, you're on a global team that believes the same thing and is working on fixing it. -The only things that are actually affected are just materialistic sort of things. Of which, currency manipulation should hold off serious fallout for low income people(everyone will be fine) -I go to protests all the time, the communion is very encouraging. Had 1 protest and 2 vigils this week, protest coming Saturday. They're fun too, make friends,.... -live your life, take breaks when you need, re-priorotize yourself, be caring toward yourself. Spending time outdoors, I think helps me a lot, yoga. Just all the typical healthy things to do.

There's no such thing as a "socialist program", Raze. Try, for once, actually sticking your head out of your bubble and listening to what republican voters actually say.

The only reason people vote for republicans, is that they hate socialism. That's it, you two are the problem.

I still don't see any reasonable chance. It's Greenland that should worry, Trump will use when impeachment starts. Looks like an attack on Cuba soon but that's not enough for the Epstein trials. I think it will be Greenland, not an attack, but the u.s. is just going to take it, just show up and declare it Trumpland. Iran is just way too strong, the U.S. Generals are shitting in their boots right now thinking about it, they will tell Hegseth and Trump.

This is a way Australia's and now the EU's bans on social media are detrimental. The internet is being used to educate people in things that actually matter, despite all the bad things it also spreads. People say we're too informed but the only problem is selectivity, we're really still not informed enough. We should see more images from Gaza and Sudan, we should see more about how Iranians actually live and what they believe. People are talking about MAGA being an 'extinction burst' of nationalism, the bad parts of society we're seeing are not created by social media. It's ironically reactionary from 'progressives' for the bans, look at the boon of liberalism in the u.s. right now opposing MAGA. These bans are just more fear of ourselves, the same thing conservatives do. We're moving toward a liberal world governed by the people (ungoverned).

Then how did the first trans person decide to be trans? It never even existed, who forced them to believe they were trans, and this would be back when trans were legally executed for being trans. How did this originally spread. You're not only a conservative, you're a conspiracy theorist. Do you support immigration, environmentalism, justice reform?

That graph is a symbolic middle finger. The U.S./Trump attacks China more than anyone. This would also improve China's reputation in the world, China/Xi actually want to be a peace maker leader in the world, my opinion. China has good relations with Venezuela too, and Iran. Global News https://globalnews.ca What China's 'alignment' with Carney on Greenland says of 'new world order' 22 hours ago — During his Beijing trip, Carney said Canada's new strategic partnership with China “sets us up well for the new world order.” “It's a Friends of Europe https://www.friendsofeurope.org After 50 years of diplomatic relations, what's next for EU-China cooperation? Nov 17, 2025 — China has invested more than 100 billion USD in the EU, and trade reaches over 800 billion USD yearly, highlighted Biwei Liu, Vice President of

And yet in reality, (again, tv is not reality.... you obviously can'tcomprehend this(mental illness)) it's you conservatives constantly posting about lgbtq. Your posted video is actually more proof conservatives are obsessed with it, you made a tv show about it..... and not just the tv show, the youtube analysis you're posting is on top of that!!! In a thread made by triggered conservative none the less!!!!!!! Imagine if conservatives quit hating on lgbtq, sincerely, I'm asking you to. What would result? Skim threw all the thread titles, notice the lgbtq ones are ALL by the same conservatives, NONE of which by the way asking to learn about another perspective, but to purely be hateful. I like how retarded your show is right off the bat though, "they them pronouns are third person!" (SO IS "HE SHE", jackasses) Mr.", "Mrs.", "Ms.", "Miss", "Sir," and "Ma'am" "boy", "girl", are titles and forms of address, not personal pronouns The brainrot is real

Because it's not proven, arbitrary means on a whim. Believing something(genders) that's not proven(actually proven wrong), is arbitrary. Not believing in something because you haven't been proven that it's true, is not arbitrary, it's called critical thinking actually. The owness to prove something(gender) is on the claimants, otherwise it's an arbitrary belief. Not acknowledging a made up belief(gender), is not arbitrary. If I say a flying sphagetti monster is God, and you say I don't believe that, your claim in your post is the same as saying people that don't believe in the monster are just being arbitrary because they haven't proven the monster doesn't exist. If a 5 year old says they don't understand what you mean by gender, that means they're being arbitrary?

U.S. support for Ukraine is already gone. Trump is currently on Putins side actually. Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA) https://cepa.org Wartime Assistance to Ukraine from the US and EU 2 days ago — With the United States stepping back from its military funding for Ukraine, Europe should develop innovative strategies to fill the gap The way it would probably work is Europe with China would sanction the u.s. on it's aggression toward Greenland. This would cause immediate reining in of Trump by our Senate, it would be over, congress would pass resolution that is already being debated right now to stay out of Greenland. ABC News https://abcnews.go.com China says US shouldn't use other countries as 'pretext' to pursue its ... 5 days ago — China responded in kind on Monday, saying the United States should not use other countries as a “pretext” to pursue its interests in Greenland .. NewsNation https://www.newsnationnow.com Canada's Carney says 'new world order' still being determined 19 hours ago — The Canadian prime minister raised eybrows when he referenced a "new world order" in a meeting with China "Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) said Wednesday he’d consider impeaching President Trump if the U.S. decides to invade Greenland, which he described as “utter buffoonery"- republican in solid maga state

It's NOT "regular" support, that would have been "Support Single Payer", NOT "SOMEWHAT support it" You have zero awareness. AGAIN read the poll, the pollsters are ABSTRACTING the "support" number combining "somewhat" with "strongly", "somewhat" is NOT "regular" "support". The people were not given the option of "support", MY poll did. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/12/10/most-americans-say-government-has-a-responsibility-to-ensure-health-care-coverage/ "Dec 10, 2025 — 35% of all adults favor a single national health insurance system run by the government. · 26% of all adults say these programs should continue"

30 million dollar drones, not backyard drones, Reaper bomber drones. https://www.twz.com/17486/houthi-rebels-release-flir-video-showing-shoot-down-of-saudi-f-15s Houthi Rebels Release FLIR Video Showing Shoot Down of Saudi F-15S ... Jan 8, 2018 — Houthi rebels have released video they claim shows the exact moment they shot down Royal Saudi Air Force F-15S over Yemen. https://theaviationist.com/2025/05/13/houthi-air-defenses-u-s-f-35s-and-f-16s ", the U.S. had clearly been UNABLE to secure aerial superiority even after $1 billion of operational costs had been spent in the space of a single month, not including the two F/A-18 Super Hornets that had been completely lost during the operation" The Times of Israel https://www.timesofisrael.com Houthis claim to strike US aircraft carrier, warn of 'consequences' if attacked ... Jan 19, 2025 — Yemen's Houthi rebels claim an attack on an American aircraft carrier in the early hours of Sunday morning, and warn of “consequences” USNI News https://news.usni.org USS Harry S. Truman Back in Med After 50 Days in Red Sea - USNI News Feb 6, 2025 — Aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN-75) pulled into Souda Bay, Greece on Thursday for a port call following 50 days in the Red Sea The National Interest https://nationalinterest.org The USS Harry S. Truman Has Left the Red Sea May 22, 2025 — Truman is returning home after an extended Red Sea deployment, joint NATO drills, and combat operations—losing three F/A-18s during the mission Human Rights Watch https://www.hrw.org Yemen: Houthis' Attacks on Cargo Ships Apparent War Crimes Jul 23, 2025 — The Houthi armed group in Yemen attacked two commercial cargo vessels in the Red Sea between July 6 and 9, 2025, violations of the laws of USNI News https://news.usni.org Houthis Attack Dutch Ship in the Red Sea - USNI News Oct 2, 2025 — The Houthis first attacked M/V Magic Seas with small boats and then with ballistic and cruise missiles, as well as drones. The crew abandoned Council on Foreign Relations https://www.cfr.org Conflict in Yemen and the Red Sea | Global Conflict Tracker Nov 12, 2025 — Houthi attacks of the same nature continued into November. On November 19, the Houthis hijacked a commercial ship in the Red Sea and have The u.s. AND u.k. military combined LOST to the Houthis, LOST. It won't make a speck of difference after greenland, only before. Europe will be toast.

You're telling me what's irrelevant for my opinion. You're saying since something is popular that it's right, yet previously in this thread you proclaimed voters are essentially mindless zombies meant to be swindled by politicians. You're lacking critical thinking. You're falling for confirmation bias and bar chart coloring done by a Progressive(by name even) polling outfit. You're deluded, did running on the public option win 60% of the senate to vote for the public option, that's what's required to pass it. Do you understand..... Public Option means you pay out of your pocket for insurance? I'm done here