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Ya, he's a kid rapist.

I disagree with him, but I like the thread. There seems to be some voids to me(how his hierarchy is actually the divine one, and how Plato is superfascist....) but I appreciate the depth and oddity.

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I was commenting to this Anarchy is the natural order, it is what is original to humans. It exists in places today(the video I posted).

https://www.newsweek.com/who-curtis-yarvin-conservative-linked-jd-vance-wants-monarchy-2017221 "Who Is Curtis Yarvin? Conservative Linked to JD Vance Wants ‘Monarchy ... Jan 18, 2025 · Curtis Yarvin, a conservative blogger who advocates transforming American democracy into a "monarchy," among other political theories," "https://www.nytimes.com Elon Musk Consulted Curtis Yarvin, Right-Wing Thinker, on Third Party Jul 9, 2025 — The two men spoke about Mr. Musk's push to create the America Party before the midterm elections. Mr. Yarvin has expressed support" Far left is Anarchy, not communism. There are a huge number of anarchists, by the way.

He's never going to prison, hes president, protected by pardon power. But there's another nuke ready to drop, SCOTUS may rule he has to pay back tarrifs, if that happens, enough Republican legislators will turn on him, he'll get reigned in. It will be a bloodbath politically for Republicans, and long-term.

I'm talking about Le Pen, Farage, AfD, Boris Johnson Brexit, Merz, Meloni. If you think Fuentes is a canary in the coal mine, Google 'Rush Limbaugh'. He's been dead for years and he's still on the radio even. Fuentes is a clone. While you're at it, Google 'Nahel Merzouk was fatally shot by a police officer in France'

He didn't campaign on releasing the files. He'd be in prison with Epstein, it's probably why he ran. Do you know Bill Barr's dad was Epstein's boss, and wrote a novel about sex trade, and Bill Barr worked for the law firm that epstein used.

@zazen No im not a liberterian, austrian economics type. What I mean is look who is driving decisions, it's the consumers, the people. These companies are only maneuvering in ways to satisfy consumers. We don't have people at the mercy of these corporations, the giant ones are strictly discretionary spending markets. We have borderline meat and grain monopolies, and walmart, but these are not hard to overcome. What you're pointing at has been getting minimized even, not growing. Look back to Carnegie and JP Morgan for heavens sake, look up JP Morgan's bailout of the United States, (the bank bailed the country out). Lookup Rockefeller and Vanderbilt, Jack Welch,... Rockefeller is why we've been fighting in the middle east for 100 years, why there's an Israel. None of these companies have controlling leverage. Palantir is only a data organizing company, by the way. The only area there is a bit of a problem is with data centers, and the oil industry. Where else are these companies leveraging to victimize the people? The oil industry is being phased out by half of the politicians and a lot of individuals taking steps personally. Again, oil is largely consumer driven though, Americans drive twice the size vehicles as Europeans and 4x the commute. Government subsidization 'makes oil use attractive', but we're talking about a massive percentage being discretionary, what comes first the chicken or the egg? Consumers are steering this, the people, in the form of the most direct-democracy possible. Your theory is based on a false premise that Democrats are sold out, with no evidence for it.

You've been watching Spira....

Epstein emails released reveal trump allegedly knew of and "spent time with" the trafficked girls, and epstein was planning on blackmailing trump. "Jeffrey Epstein wrote in 2011 that Donald Trump, “spent hours at my house” with a victim of sex trafficking, referring to Trump as “dog that hasn’t barked.” In a separate email with author Michael Wolff in 2019, Epstein stated explicitly that Donald Trump, “knew about the girls as he asked ghislaine to stop.” In another email with Wolff in 2015, Epstein and Wolff discuss if they can “craft an answer” for Trump’s upcoming CNN interview, with Wolff characterizing Epstein’s leverage over Donald Trump, saying, “If he says he hasn’t been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency.” " https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/news/press-releases/house-oversight-committee-releases-jeffrey-epstein-email-correspondence-raising Here's the emails https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/democrats-oversight.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/3-emails_redacted.pdf

You're conflating wealth accumulation for control of capital. Who is it that decides to put this capital in these hands through discretionary spending? Does Amazon sell 600 square foot houses and bread, does Facebook sell ads for potatoes, Tesla sell e-bicycles, Apple sell corded phones? Your so-called "oligarchs" are directly, democratically funded by consumer discretionary spending. These people are accumulating wealth because they're providing what the literal people literally demand, if they were to buck the consumer/people they would be on the street.

Alfred Nobel, (Nobel peace prize) inventor of modern explosives. Tormented by the destructive uses of his invention (a newspaper once mistakenly published his obituary as "the merchant of death"), Nobel used his vast fortune to establish the Nobel Prizes, intended to celebrate contributions to peace, science, and literature. Midgley, leaded gas. Paul Mueller, received the Nobel Prize in 1948 for his discovery of the insecticidal properties of DDT! Arthur Galston, Galston's plant physiology research, which aimed to help grow crops faster, led to the development of Agent Orange. Lobotomy was developed in the 1930s by Portuguese neurologist António Egas Moniz and American neurosurgeon Walter Freeman. C.R. Alder Wright is credited with inventing heroin in 1874 Another Nobel winner

Hopefully they get bored with him.

I see this as a shot across the bow, rather than going nuclear like you guys want. This only lasts through January. There are a couple huge decisions about to be made that could essentially kill Trump without harming people with a shutdown. SCOTUS ruling tarriffs illegal and must be refunded to everyone, this would lose a lot of republican support, getting within impeachment distance. And Epstein files vote in the house. This also tests the voters to see if they really want them to follow through longer. The shutdown has serious direct impact on a lot of people's lives, it has real world consequences. You're dealing with people that lied to their constituents about vaccines for political points while over a million of them died from covid. People that send their constituents to die in Iraq to protect billionaires profits. You can't operate like Americans are rational or intelligent, we're just on damage control right now, you live in a nation of bird-brained people.

So, what does Mamdani have the support for to accomplish? https://nypost.com With Wall Street jobs fleeing, New York is nearing the point of no return Oct 4, 2025 — Last week's news shows that banking giant JPMorgan Chase now employs more workers in Texas than in New York City;

That's what I get from him too, I haven't seen much of the walk backs, but on some more ancillary topics you can tell he's just adopting and improvising with reckless abandon. I think he mimics some people he's studied, like Trump, pretty typical for young people. But he seems to be a true-believer on racism and "small government". From what I've listened to him it seems to be from indoctrination, he was glued to right-wing a.m. radio as a kid, essentially brain damage. He even speaks like a radio host. It's hard for me to see Republicans going any other direction. I hope socialists start their own party though, and it's more a 3-way divide.

Republicans use disruption because that's all they can do. It's self-defeating though, it harms the country in an apparent way to voters, their pocketbooks. It is not a winning strategy long-term, politically or nationally. Democrats joining in on destroying the country is a terrible idea. This is basic Game Theory, a race to the bottom. Correct me if I'm wrong, the 'right-ward' trend you're suggesting is essentially lower taxes, and not more redistribution. The u.s. is on the brink of financial collapse, that just currently doesn't allow for much of that. The current strategy to keep from going over the cliff is instead of increasing taxes substantially, it is to go into substantial debt and deflate the dollar. The u.s. is not a perfect analog of any other country, the rest of the world is affected by u.s. downturn unlike any other country, which causes a cascading effect here. I see no real future for Republicans, they're burning up every last con they can play. Yes they've played every dirty card they could, but none of them are sustainable politically. Culturally nor effectually, has the u.s. moved right, even maga is about redistribution, just in another way. The new deal was from the great depression, it wasn't out of nowhere. Different circumstances draw out different reactions from the same culture. You cannot use Europe has a barometer as to whether the u.s. has become more right, look at u.s. history, we've continued on the same overall trajectory. The only aspect we've 'moved' more right by, is that we have not added more house seats or states(meaning more senators) despite a 3x increase in population(we would have more electoral college points), arguably, SCOTUS seats as well. Look at the right's rise in Europe, no matter how much progress you make you will always have an idiotic sect using ignorance with a degree of temporary success. There is no finish line, everything is relative.

The day socialists start a grassroots super-pac, lol. Seriously though, why don't socialists actually do anything.

No they didn't. "Corporate tax increases that have been enacted 15% corporate minimum tax: The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 established a 15% minimum tax on the average annual earnings of corporations with over $1 billion in profits. 1% tax on stock buybacks: This is technically an excise tax, but it functions as a corporate tax increase by placing a 1% tax on companies that repurchase their own stock. President Biden expanded Medicaid, SNAP, and the ACA through executive actions and legislation like the American Rescue Plan and the Inflation Reduction Act. Biden expanded Medicaid by ending work requirements and making it easier to apply and renew coverage, while expanding the ACA by increasing subsidies for marketplace plans. He also expanded SNAP by increasing benefits and expanding eligibility. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] Medicaid expansion • Ending work requirements: The Biden administration ended Medicaid work requirements that were implemented by the previous administration. • Streamlining enrollment: A new rule from the Biden administration removed red tape to make it easier for people to apply for and renew Medicaid coverage. • Increasing access to care: The administration made changes to improve access to care for millions of Americans. [1, 2, 6] ACA (Affordable Care Act) expansion • Enhanced subsidies: The Inflation Reduction Act enhanced ACA subsidies, making health insurance more affordable. • Increased enrollment: The Biden administration has overseen a record high in ACA marketplace enrollment, with over nine million more people signing up than when he took office. • Protecting ACA: The administration has taken actions to protect and strengthen the ACA, including making health care more affordable and improving children's coverage. [3, 4] SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) expansion • Increased benefits: The Biden administration has increased SNAP benefits and expanded eligibility. • Making it easier to apply: The administration has streamlined the application process for SNAP benefits and reduced red tape. • Increased enrollment: As a result of these changes, more people are now able to access SNAP benefits. [1, 2, 4, 5] the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law is providing billions of dollars to replace lead pipes, and a related EPA rule is mandating replacement within 10 years. The infrastructure law has allocated $15 billion for lead service line replacement, while the new EPA rule requires water systems to identify and replace all lead pipes within a decade. Biden's total student debt relief passes $183 billion, after he ... Jan 13, 2025 · Since Biden took office, he has forgiven debt for more than 5 million federal student loan borrowers, totaling $183.6 billion in relief" Dec 25, 2023 · The United States military will have the smallest force in over 80 years as it prepares for the start of 2024. The Affordable Care Act (ACA), Passed the House on November 7, 2009 (220–215) Passed the Senate as the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" on December 24, 2009 (60–39) with amendment House agreed to Senate amendment on March 21, 2010 (219–212) Signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010

He's also only 27, that's where my interest comes from. I don't see him going away, but possibly evolving given the economic downturn I foresee. I think he's the epitome of terminally online. All of his positions are based on false premises, like someone that's never left the basement. Sadly, there's a lot of younger people like that. Do you think he's a con? Or believes what he says?

And republicans would shutdown democrat administrations. You guys gotta quit thinking like this is checkers, the Hasan/AOC stupidity is a virus.

How receptive do you think gen Z and Alpha are to Fuentes' racism? I can't see his racism sticking very well, but he is a far better speaker and more intelligent than Ben Shapiro. The guy is very intelligent but obviously a coward that has hid in his mom's basement his entire life making him afraid of people with foreign accents. If he can pivot away from racism I think he has a really good chance to make it big though, if he would be anti-immigration without the racism. Racism and fascism thrive in economic downturn, which is the foreseeable future. Here is a good speech by Fuentes. I disagree with him, I think it's easily proven obvious his conclusions are wrong. But he does have a good grasp that there is a problem, just hasn't figured out Democratic policy is the actual solution. His logic is flawed by false premises about "Big government" and cultures. Hopefully his coarse honesty eventually leads him to the truth.

Democrats are not in power. Thats not how politics work, at all. You're looking at it like a religion or something. You think republicans are going to accept everything democrats want because they can shutdown.... republicans were voted in power, democrats should shutdown if they don't get what they want? People vote their pocketbooks. Trump 2016 won by running on lies, that caught up to him in the next election, where he lost to a dementia patient. Lying can work one cycle. Trump won 24 because of the inflation derived from Trump 16'. Trump 24' is going down even harder and you're ALREADY seeing a blue apocalypse for republicans, democrats took seats held red for 20 years. Biden and Harris' tax plans were to raise taxes on corporations and the wealthy, Harris wanted to tax unrealized gains even, thats "moving right" to you. Newsom has the highest tax rate in the country on the wealthy in California, and just started a state ran pharmaceutical company. Thats "moving right" to you. You don't want to tank the economy even more with excessive shutdowns, trump is already doing bad enough job. When democrats get back in it takes time to rebound the economy, you don't want a massive downtrend like biden started with. People will vote opposite party when economy is faltering regardless of fault. Retaining aca with a republican majority is a near impossible task. Obviously we need to do shutdowns, but calculated, there are lives hurt by this shutdown. We should shutdown longer next time and keep shutting down, republicans are being ridiculous.

Causing the longest shutdown in history because you're a party out of power fighting for aca, is not "shifting right". layoff the Hassan podcast. That's not how politics works, most people are not baristas living at their parents house.