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Absolutely. Is Trump Hitler yet or going to be Hitler? No. Then is Carlson, Musk, Bannon nazis?

I'm a leftist, I was explaining how not all alt-right are violent, not all are nazis.

I already said, they're fucking idiots(bigots and nationalists).

It takes something more than these guys rhetoric though, doesn't it? It requires explicit or veiled calls for violence.

Keep asking, point out benefits.

"Hey blacks, gays, etc,... we'll give you California, and northern u.s., we'll take the rest, deal?"

So, calling conservatives "fascists", is violence, when "tensions are high"?

Can a person want a white nation, and also not support a violent means to accomplish this? Of course, this is Musk. Bannon and Carlson aren't even racist.

False, nazi is alt-right: with violence alt-right /ˌôltˈrīt/ noun (in the US) a right-wing ideological movement characterized by a rejection of mainstream politics and by the use of online media to disseminate provocative content, often expressing opposition to racial, religious, or gender equality

No it's not.

Miller and Spencer are nazis.

"Alt-right" does not mean nazi, he's a nationalist, not a violence promoting one, listen to actually him.

A lot of conservatives do, Carlson, Bannon, and Musk: do not.

The nazi salute is a hold when your arm is extended, Musk did not hold it.

I don't consider it a nazi salute, he was high as fuck and said my heart goes out to you, motioning his hand at his heart out to the crowd. He did not hold the outward gesture.

Absolutely they do, not necessarily violently. We must fight their bigotry and hate, of course. They are bigots. I disagree. I don't, Musk is deplorable, but just because he's a drug riddled idiot he spouts hate. Bannon, you should try actually listening to him before calling him nazi.

That is not the definition of fascist, fascist is someone that embraces fascism, that does not mean someone needs to implement fascism to be a fascist. Are communists communists even though they can't implement it? Of course they are.

I personally think it's irresponsible to call Bannon, Carlson, or Musk nazis: they're idiots, but they don't call for violence. Miller does.

They're also trying to create this as a false flag that 'leftists are murdering conservatives'. Like @Inliytened1 is doing here. To incite violence against the left. @Inliytened1 is essentially calling leftists fascists, which is the trigger word for "kill leftists", per @Inliytened1. Stephen Miller, the guy running the U.S., is a groyper.

I think we're talking about 2 different things, sort of. I regress, this is what I meant. The allies were the ones that started wwii, they wanted wwii? Nazis surrendered in 44'? Self-defense, can include killing. It's not Football. Democrats attack, look at all the arrests from 2020, thousands, unprecedented. Look at the record setting protests the last 9 months. Lawsuits they've won.

The good guys are inherently on defense, in every scenario.

@Inliytened1 The shooter was fascist, but January 6th wasn't? "Fascism is generally defined as a political movement that embraces far-right nationalism and the forceful suppression of any opposition,"

But, you're allowed to call people fascist, what's the difference that allows that?

Zazen shouldn't discuss this?

Keyword;"embraces"; "accept or support (a belief, theory, or change) willingly and enthusiastically:" "Trump pardons some 1,500 Jan. 6 rioters, commutes 14 sentences : NPR Jan 21, 2025 · President Trump issued pardons for some 1,500 defendants who participated in the siege on the U.S. Capitol four years ago, including the leader"