Elliott

Ya, I think it's a great post.

I don't believe this is a new phenomenon("Post-"). Most people up to 40 years ago believed a flying spaghetti monster told men in white robes how everyone shouldn't dress and what music they should listen to, now it's down to about 10% of the population(maga and maga-adjacent)

Post democrats calling for violence, or supporting the communist manifesto.

Essentially. But my point was just that Kirk seemed to be more interested in the commercial aspect, money and fame, Fuentes seems a lot more ideological.

I'll try to find it. He goes on about how it's structurally unsound, inherently, those aren't his words I'm paraphrasing. Most anyone would choose authoritarianism of their own beliefs if there were no drawbacks....

Fuentes has changed his views on authoritarianism, essentially saying it is a foolish fairytale. In the interview I saw, he says something like 'you might actually call me liberal in that regard now'.

Consider Fuentes going after Kirk the same way Leo would go after a charlatan teacher.

I don't think Fuentes is trying to build a brand. I think he thinks very deeply and researches things, and just shares what he thinks, like how Leo shares.

@Inliytened1 The guy is very intelligent. Do not watch him thinking he's like some other commentator or racist, he's a real philosopher. It is not standard racism.

Have you listened to fuentes' actual show and not just rage bait clips? All I had ever seen was rage bait clips until someone here asked me to watch his show and I went away with a completely changed idea about him, extremely surprised and actually impressed in ways. A structurally harmful worldview, but not from hate, and an innocent ignorance about the harms: I will bet money that he becomes a liberal with time. youtube " kirk getting owned".

Tell me again how they're not nazis. Mass shooting at homeless camp.

Fuentes is more radical but honest and smart, kirk was a lying idiot.

I would rather watch Fuentes than fox news, Shapiro, kirk, any other conservative, by far. He's not a raging nazi, he has a radical view but he seems pretty honest to me actually, unlike ANY other conservative.

I have not seen what you're describing from kirk. I think that's a strawman.

Do you really not comprehend trying to understand other viewpoints? Fuentes didn't seem hateful at all to me, of what I've watched of his.

False, he believed in sympathy. Read Kirk's entire quote, right after his empathy comment he says he believes in sympathy "you cannot know how another person feels", he says.

Fuentes has a relative tiny following right? Do you think gen-z kirk followers will move to fuentes? "As of September 2025, Nick Fuentes has over 750,000 followers on X, and his livestream viewership on Rumble has reached approximately 500,000."

I thought nick fuentes sounded smart when someone else on here asked that i listen to him, a ton smarter than kirk.

Even for Boomers, this huge uptick of maga hate is a bit of an outlier. I myself don't understand how things will de-escalate, as alarming as things are, but I think us leftists in general are probably being pessimistic about the outlook. Karl Rove.....

You don't understand what I'm saying, he GAINED 6X his followers since his death. Shapiros audience is older.

Has, he 6Xd in last 4 days.

Kirk only had 1.7million followers. I feel like Fox news will die with boomers, what other hate propagandists does gen Z follow? @Inliytened1 @carterfelder who do you like?

You would think the savior of mankind would at least be do being called his actual name, Yeshua (ישוע) (Aramaic, his language), how is it not blasphemy? Why do Christians not know any Aramaic......

Of course. Has nothing to do with our age requirements.