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"2-hour meditation sessions" haha that won't happen in decades. sorry guys, happy april fools

i can relate to this

yes just yes. 100%

There’s a point in personal development where you run into a strange problem: the deeper your understanding becomes, the less practical it seems to be. You start to understand ideas like “there is no self,” “there is no free will,” or “reality is an illusion.” At first, these feel profound. They expand your perspective, reduce your ego, and help you detach from unnecessary suffering. but i believe it is a mistake to try make them practical, by using them to improve life in a practical way. So i have a question: At what point does Absolute Truth stop being 'practically' useful and become purely contemplative and for understanding only? Why do certain “ultimate truths” (like no-self, no free will, reality as imaginary) fail as 'practical' frameworks for living, even if they’re valid at a deeper level?

@Butters I'm just replying to the title. brotherrrr trauma makes you weak as fuck. healing from trauma is what makes you stronger.

@Joseph Maynor i was just giving that as an example of a mental model. it is a lense and it is limited and used for contexts where it fits.

Why what's wrong with it, I'm curious

yeah true my bad, i meant "mental model" not framework. i consider anything that is true (realization, law, theory...) and can be considered a lense in which to view something a mental model. for example, "everything is a skill". it is a realization that everything in the finite is a skill, but also one lense in which i view things.

aww now it's clear, i get it. another framework in the bag for me. i will think about this. great one

But it was needed. at the end of Breaking bad, we knew what happened to all important characters except for Jesse, and El camino delivered that relief.

bet. now imma learn that language, recruit bunch of of birds and create a theft empire. they steal money for me, i give them unlimited food, good business.

@Joseph Maynor can you explain more? do you have any youtube videos or posts about this?

the movie seems interesting and unique, but I'm a guy and too sexist to watch it since the main character is a girl 😪 (JK imma watch it asap and tell you what i think)

@gettoefl This is poetic, this is what I'm talking about. an insight like this won't help you practically with anything, it'll just help with understanding and how you relate to things.

@Eskilon that's what i said, it doesn't help you execute, but it helps with how you relate to how you execute and your results.

here's my attempt at answering that. The key distinction is this: not all truths operate at the same level. There are two layers we're dealing with: At the relative level, cause and effect are real. Effort matters. Habits matter. Identity matters. If you want to build muscle, you train. If you want to make money, you create value. This is the level where self-help, psychology, and skill-building actually work. At the absolute level, everything collapses. There is no separate self, no control, no inherent meaning. From this perspective, nothing is truly happening in the way you think it is. Both are true. But they serve completely different functions. Absolute truth is not meant to tell you what to do. It’s meant to change how you relate to what you do. For example, you still go to the gym, push hard, and track your progress. But at the same time, you’re less attached to the outcome. Failure doesn’t crush you as much. Success doesn’t inflate you as much. There’s a kind of lightness behind the effort. Another example: you still work on your business, improve your skills, and make strategic decisions. But you’re not psychologically dependent on it for your sense of self. That’s the real role of deep truth: orientation, not execution. Execution comes from the relative level. Freedom comes from the absolute level. If you ignore the relative, you become passive and ineffective. If you ignore the absolute, you become tense and overly attached. The goal is not to choose one. It’s to operate in both, acting fully, while understanding that, at the deepest level, there’s nothing to hold onto.

I'm Curious why we hurt ourselves ? what the mechanism behind that?

@PolyPeter biggest picture helps with understanding stuff accurately so i don't misunderstand you.

@CARDOZZO let's just focus on the point. using depression in this context should be taken lightly, and understand it as this pop culture version of it.

@PolyPeter okay now the picture is clearer. so would you say the breakthrough happens once one is conscious of what God is and what existence is? then comes the emotional work that'll serve as a way out? if we all compress that into one sentence, would it be "truth shall set you free" ?

@CARDOZZO i mean, you never experienced depression?

oh boy, i might have some bad news for you. your next break up will be as intense.

@UpperMaster the way i would put it is, vulnerability is expressed after dealing with neediness, not before. since you are being vulnerable because you aren't afraid to lose them or their validation. that's what vulnerable means, you give them a chance to reject you. if you are needy, it would be hard to be vulnerable. neediness is broad, it can be for many reason, it could be due to lack of abundance, or insecurity, or trauma, or conditioned beliefs, or inexperience, or dependance on externa validation.... for me personally, it was because of childhood trauma, i developed fearful avoidant attachment style because of that. (if you don't know, search what that is and you'll get a bit of understanding)

😂😂 bang on