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Sergione replied to Spiral Wizard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hey Leo, what up, i would love to hear your response on this. The proper Christian claim is that Jesus (and only him) is God, there's no way neither you nor anyone else can be. It's ontologically impossible given that we are created beings while God is uncreated. Jesus is the only bridge to close the gap, you can't do it by yourself. In the gospel of john he says "I am the way the truth and the life... no one comes to the father except through me" Which is the opposite of your bio here isn't it? To a proper christian who knows what he's talking about, saying that you're god means you are deceived. No matter how deep into non duality (and whatever thing beyond that) you went into. The truth expressed in the gospel is that of a personal God, not an impersonal one. Christ is an actual dude who speaks to you, does things to you, asks you stuff, has preferences, is affected by how you live your life. Now one might say the gospels are not accurate, got manipulated or that they spoke some high consciousness stuff in low consciousness terms so people misunderstood it because spiral dynamics and what not. These are all valid concerns but it's important we don't dismiss the topic so easily by labeling it as low level spirituality. Personally, i met several people who had their life transformed by this incorporeal but everpresent dude. They received healings, found spouses with whom they got a happy marriage (which used to be a massive issue before), found a better direction in life and had several miracles happening to them. This doesn't just apply to red people turn blue (some cases of which i know) but to normal people who didn't know anything about him, started praying and had this strong external influence take over their lives. This happens also to people who were deep into spirituality at various levels. You can check the books "youre mine" by sister anastasia and "the gurus, the young and elder paisios". Both authors explain how they were deep into buddhism, non duality, sometimes spiritism, hinduism, yoga (properly done to achieve enlightenment, not the retarded way) and found that at the core of ALL of them there is a demonic deception. You can also check the books by Seraphim Rose, who was a student of Alan Watts who tried many of the eastern disciplines to find Truth to then become and orthodox monk. The christian God is "holy", meaning he's separate from creation. The monks who experience him (yes he's male) directly say that basically all the christian cilches are true. They're not retarded, they're not blue people using blue language and projecting blueness on it, they mean what thehy say knowing what they are talking about and come to totally different conclusions than the ones you came to. Turns out also that the devil and demons are real, actual entities with an agenda and agency over us humans, not just projections of our psyche. So my questions for you are 1) How did you falsify the enightenment experiences you had against the possibility of being deceived by malevolent entities? I'm interested because i had many awakenings and was balls deep into inner work and healing, but stopped because it turns out it can be very dangerous. 2) how do you explain christian saints and monks, even recent ones, coming to radically different conclusions than yours? and if you don't know about them how about the people who claim to have been saved out the new age (which includes every eastern practice and outlook on things that you tried and preached and psychedelics even used in the most authentic and shamanic way) by jesus who often shows up outta nowhere when called in the moments of need and operates miracles? 3) From the way you speak i get the impression you never properly got into christianity, am i wrong? did you ever research it and test it out? Set aside american evangelicals who are often very ignorant and unsofisticated. Did you watch testimonies of people having direct experiences with christ? read books by monks? On the surface christianity looks very confused and even barbaric, but the core is a surprise apparently. I think it would be worthwile to investigate. if you were wrong about everything you'd want to know right? If you're still right and can falsify christianity at the core I'd be very interested in hearing how you do it, so far i could not. If you're interested you can check the books i told you above. You can also check testimonies, just look for new age to jesus, buddhism to jesus, spirituality to jesus etc. you'll find all sorts of peple converting for the same reasons. Steven Bancarz uses you as an example to explain why meditation is dangerous, There are clips from your older videos in this one. Hope this lands for you, have me know what you think please. Thank you