Mellowmarsh

More concepts.

You are still trying to sneak a peek behind the mirror to get a glimpse of something you’ll never find. There’s nothing behind the mirror, inside it, or outside it. There’s only the mirror. You is the mirror. The mirror is emptiness reflecting fullness. The illusion of multiplicity from one source.

Without the mind as a projection screen where do you happen? “You” being the operative word. Nothing works until YOU do.

The finger is never a finger, concepts known know nothing. Just this, all alone, all one, not knowing. The paradox is inevitably unavoidable in this conception..

There’s nothing beyond the here and now to go to. Nothing leaves, goes, or comes.

Consciousness is. Consciousness cannot know Consciousness because Consciousness is already being Consciousness. There’s nothing outside or inside of Consciousness. Consciousness is Omnipresent without a centre even. No one knows this.

You might just as well have said. You are the contents of consciousness looking for consciousness. See the dilemma?

No mind has ever experienced another mind. So you can’t even put add an S at the end of mind. There’s no other mind to change, there’s only your mind that can change. No concept is trapped because a concept has no concept of itself as a concept.Why, because concepts known, know nothing. This is tricky to grasp. Leo gets it, and so do many others.

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Another point to consider is the concept is this conception that cannot be negated or absent. Present is always present, never absent, the proof of this is upon awakening. One never experiences not waking up. The mind is the dream, and there’s nothing beyond the dream.

An object is known to be an image of the imageless. So it’s all just nothing anyway, the stuff imagination and dreams are made of. Solipsism is all there is. Many different words for the exact same being.

You could be right too. I love your assessment, it’s perfectly pointing to a clarity. Integration is the key.

To ask the question who implies separation. Aloneness is already this without question.

You’re missing the point James. Ramana didn’t say that, it’s an appearance of someone saying something, it’s the solipsistic dream appearing as itself.

End implies beginning. This belongs to the dream. And the dream is all there is. Anything is possible in the dream as potential is infinite. Solipsism is another word for without beginning nor end, all alone, all one. No inside, no outside, no opposition, no argument, no other. Just this irrefutably impossible to negate or experience the absence of. Leo is correct.

This is very intelligently thought out. It’s impeccable and well articulated. I agree on all points you’ve made. My own personal logic shows me that you need an ego to get rid of an ego. Same goes for thoughts, and the mind, to get rid of them, one first has to have them. So yes, you are well on point in your op. What’s so pitifully stupid about your op? I can’t see it. Try not to be self defeating or self sabotaging, why doubt yourself when all you can do is express yourself the only way you know how according to your own experience as and through your own personal lens of perception. You’re doing well. We’re all doing the exact same expression of ourselves into the nature of being. You are the only author of your reality you know. Just be yourself unapologetically because there is no one like you, only you live as you. And your knowledge comes from the exact same source as everyone else’s knowledge so never doubt your own knowledge as inferior to someone else’s. That’s the stupid part okay. 😊

Even the statement “Being reveals itself “ implies a division. Solipsist is just another word for everything, or reality, or this, which is without doubt or error irrefutably a fact as direct experience. Solipsist is not a “me” or a “someone “ No, that’s division. There is only this Solipsistic reality one without a second. You already are this. Solipsistic reality cannot tell itself it is solipsistic without dividing itself into two, into knower and known. Solipsistic reality is all there is, it doesn’t need to tell itself it’s solipsistic, it is already this all one, alone, illuminating present. Solipsism is the absolute and there is only the absolute. Some of you posters just haven’t grasped the truth of what Solipsism actually is yet. I agree it’s difficult to hear, but it’s also very simple and easy to hear. Leo is correct about Solipsism.

Okay, I’ll give it some consideration. I’ll get back here when time allows of course. Your reaction isn’t dumb, it’s just probably frustration that’s all, it’s a self perpetuating habit that most people indulge in when communicating with others especially when it’s of a metaphysical nature.

Part of working on yourself is to not get triggered by how others respond to you. You have no control how people respond to you, but you do have control over whether to be triggered or reactionary. I personally don’t believe spirituality is anti human. If it is then it’s misguided spirituality imo. I don’t think spirituality is in denial of the human experience do you? Is that what this thread topic is dealing with or not?

I’m pleased to hear you are doing the work, that’s important. That’s all I was emphasising, how important it is to do the work for ourselves. I would love nothing more than to share the work here on this thread with you and others. Do you have a question for me?

I’ve only just today discovered this thread. So haven’t given it much attention yet. I don’t mind talking about the thread topic actually , but I thought I’d just do some reading here first. I responded to that one post because I agreed with the principle that was being pointed out to you that’s all. Asking questions and asking for clarification is how I roll. I personally don’t want to become doubtful or argumentative with other posters just because I don’t understand what they are talking about. That’s why I’m asking questions a lot, and then also answering questions a lot in the anticipation that a mutual understanding is reached and that can only occur by asking for clarification and not just being reactionary by misunderstanding, or misinterpreting something you’re hearing.

I agree with the advice given. Which is to do the work yourself. I’m not a mod and yet that’s my motto too.

Ok I understand what you are showing me here, but what about in the dream. Why can’t the dream within the empty awareness be the appearance of a solipsistic nature due to the dream being inseparable from the dreamer? I’m simply trying to grasp Leo’s Solipsism idea, having watched the solipsism video several times, I kind of get it, I agree with Leo on the idea.

Do you mean there’s nothing beyond the prison walls of the mind?