Mellowmarsh

@No1Here2c yes, I understand what you’re saying, but the ego only knows the limits, it cannot get beyond its limits, ever, as no ego knows what lies beyond the limits, if anything at all, perhaps it’s just wishful thinking. All we have tasted is limitation. How could there be anything more than limitation. I just sometimes think it’s unacceptable to witness the horror that is part of conscious existence. Yes, it’s beautiful too, but beauty fades and horror doesn’t.

Okay, I suppose knowing that is some comfort. I just sometimes think it’s unbearable being conscious of the horror side of nature, I can’t even imagine what wildlife must go through to survive, no one comes to their aid like they do in the human realm.

But choosing is still part of the process of source and nature expression?

Isn’t ego an attribute of source and nature, inseparable from?

Did source and nature choose to experience pain.. Do you know?

Okay.

What about pain?

Do you mean like a wall? A wall that can be built and dismantled both?

Nice one. God is Good with an extra zero 0️⃣ The extra zero must be the duality of God. The other side of the one whole coin, the opposite side which is the same side because a whole split into the many is still the whole, the many of the one. G ♾️ D

Thank you, I have to agree with you on this matter. Nicely said btw. On the human level yes, of course it’s reality expressed as a human condition. Very good, Breakingthewall, very good. Personally I tend to make a right pigs ear out of trying to put my understanding of all this into words, but I have no problem taking accountability for making a mess of it. I own it.

Beware of false profits saying you will own nothing and be happy.

Maybe the “Love” word is just another form of trickery nature played on itself to get you to sire a desire to play the game. A game of life that ends up killing you off. Sounds like a fun game, not. But that’s the golden rule of the game, it can’t be anything other than a two player game where one player plays the role of the ‘liver’ and the other player plays the role of the ‘dier ‘ And we call that game the game of Love. If the game is just the play of maya, an illusion, then so must love be part of the same illusion.

What will happen will only happen when it’s meant to happen and not one second before. Like aggressive cancer cells that invade a body eventually killing its host. Where does manipulation come into this?

Shit happens, and maybe shit is meant to happen…metaphorically speaking..In both nature and personal growth, the things we want to get rid of often contain exactly what we need to thrive.

Sorry, I couldn’t resist this…

I don’t know what you mean by that. Do you?

I understand this so perfectly well, James. Honestly I do. The mind is afraid of losing control of what it was never in control of, and why it’s so difficult for the mind to surrender control. It’s painful for the mind to die. So to speak, I hear you James, I hear you man, okay.

You are also the master of that slave, and you can stop beating it anytime you like while you are alive.

Then we ought to return to the mute animal we were born as. Pure, without attachment to a fake story, even the story of awakening and enlightenment, and just let all that BS go, flush it all down the shitter where it belongs.

This guy has got this stuff right.. I love Ben so much for making this amazing video.

Okay, so now you’ve figured out there’s no self in a human body. Just as there’s no self there in a newborn baby. We all arrived to conscious life as a baby absent of a self. So yeah, the self that appeared later on as the brain developed the capacity to synthetically construct a self because we couldn’t just live our lives not knowing anything at all about anything, we had to know something in order to make sense of why we are alive in the first place. So we became more and more knowledgeable as our brains archived more and more information that it could access when the demand for the knowledge was triggered. So then if there’s no actual self in the body knowing all this knowledge then that just becomes obvious that knowledge is an illusory hallucination the brain is creating. So now what, all we’ve discovered is that the self is simulated entity an emergent from the physical body that is made out of empty space. So now we know what’s going on. Can we just live now like we’ve always done and stop being in conflict with selves that are not here to do battle with.

How so, how can death and dying be a mystery, when you already know death is an event that happens to the body? And yet death is never our actual experience, it’s not like we can be present at our death and then suddenly wake up to be able to confirm death happened to the body for absolute certainty. We speak about death being a mystery and yet it’s not is it, because doctors are able to observe a human flat lining heart on a machine, the death of a body is known to happen. But it’s not the bodies actual experience.. that’s the only mystery about life and death, is that there’s no one around in the body to witness the birth and death of its body.

Why the need to talk about ego dissolution all the time…escapism seems like a coping mechanism designed to cope with the cold hard truth of not knowing death…it’s all escapism for the human… here are some more examples of escapism …from the stresses of being a conscious human being. Usage of psychedelics or weed, or alcohol, or cigarettes, or sexual pleasure, or material shopping addiction. It’s all distractions to soothe the existential pains of being self aware, even the practice of spiritual work is another way to soothe yourself. Through this spiritual work you have discovered that you are able to commit suicide, kill the ego so to speak. All that’s happening is a desire to disappear because it’s just too painful emotionally and physically to cope with being a self aware conscious sentient creature. Then there’s the pretending to know what you cannot possibly know, and that’s another tool you use to justify your desire to lose yourself, the self you think you have, but then also you then deny yourself that thought of having a self by seeking to kill that self you now don’t have. Can’t you see how insane this human life is.

The desire to keep talking about nothing to ghosts. Let all these ghostwriters agree and have done with it, agree to shut up talking about nothing when there’s nothing to see here, and nothing to talk about. Human self awareness was nature’s cruelest trick, making them know stuff, and at the same time making them want to escape their existential fears of not knowing what death is. Humans know they will die and so seek to end their lives before they actually do die for real. It’s really bazaar behaviour the more I think about it, it’s been bugging me for the longest time. So I was glad this thread was created so I could express my horror of being conscious of torture pain and suffering. Constantly sharing talks about nothing to nothing is pointless, it’s just ego puffing itself up to see who can ruffle up the most puff, it’s mindless nonsense.

Okay mr echo chamber tell me something I don’t already know.