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What are the pre-modern stages in Spiral Dynamics? And modern is just another word for rational right?

Musk is definitely a sushi lover. I know one if I see one.

True, it all starts from inner game. I guess this was another experience to know myself and learn from myself. The thing is I should have learned this lesson 2 girls ago but I'm still making the same mistakes. 🤷‍♂️

I wanted to make out. It is just that if I get disappointed I don’t want it anymore. I think there is some underlying hurt from previous rejections. The thing is that she didn’t even reject me. I just fumbled. I could have told to just sit next to me straight up or with an excuse to show something on my phone but I thought that was cheesy so I didn’t do it.

Hm ok. Good to know for next time. There was good dancing music on and the vibe was good. I just had to do the leading. There was enough flirting, playful banter and teasing. I just get hung up when girls sit on the god damned single person couch instead sitting next to me on the three person couch. For me the most important thing out this is not to get upset but to keep playing the game playfully. This time I think I was ok with hiding it but with previous girl last month I was kind of obnoxious about it.

I did get upset and disappointed. And I think I subconsciously communicated I didn’t want to see her again. Because she said she wanted to meet up next week again and I said I didn’t know about that. I don’t like the fake my emotions. That is just how I felt and I’m ok with the sub communication. I’m clearly not a fuck boy. I’m not smooth about it.

Yea I waited too long to send the tone of the night. And after couple of hours it was too late to make the switch from platonic flirting to hands on flirting.

The whole point of Spiral Dynamics is to see the ranges with the help of the model and then integrating it so much that you don’t need the model to see it. That is the point of any map or model: to understand that the map is not the territory. So in that sense there is nothing wrong with Spiral Dynamics. You are just using it in the wrong way.

This is what quantum mechanics say and also what Leo Gura mechanics say. But the thing is if it is really true that nothing exist without consciousness how did the earth form into existence from the clouds and hot gasses into a globe? No consciousness was there to observe that shit.

I don’t think he likes Trump. He just dislikes the other candidates.

It boils down to if you can protect and provide.

There are so many dominations of Christianity with a different understanding of Jesus so in that sense every social group created their own social construct. Leo’s stuff is also a social and spiritual construct. There are just certain same ol’ stuff that is being reiterated on this forum.

Being a potentially good father is somebody who resolved his own personal issues. I believe if a person does that getting a girl and having good relationships just as a matter of being. But the thing is that for some guys just resolving your personal issues is a huge task because of the sheer amount of emotional baggage. Finding a good therapist is difficult and even if you find one it is still a hard job. Telling these people to just go out and talk to girls will only re-enact the rejection they experienced in their childhood. And rightfully they will give up because they are trying to fix something outside themselves that they need to fix inside of themselves.

Give time stamp ffs

They have some self esteem / self image issues. I tried to explain them about psycho cybernetics but they have a very short attention span, they don’t understand it. And they don’t have faith in the power of the sub conscious. It will be very hard for them to get rid of being thick skulled so they can change their self image. So most likely they won’t reproduce because they are stuck in their self fulling prophecy that is caused by their negative self image. So most likely they won’t reproduce. Historically only 33% of men have reproduced in history. So saying that all men are eligible to reproduce is not true. Some men just don’t have it in them. It is part of natural selection which is not something bad actually. It is just is as it is. You keep reiterating some anecdotal stories but things work different in hillbilly sub culture. Those women in hillbilly sub culture tend to act different than non hill Billy girls.

Just because murderers can get women doesn’t mean all men are now safe and are eligible for reproduction. I have some nice guy friends who look good, have good teeth, nice car and hygiene and can’t get a gf to save their life.

To breed and reproduce.

A girl’s value (youthful looks and fertility) is given to her by god and L’Oreal. While we men have to earn our value. That is why we aren’t the same and this should be accountant for in the value exchange that is called a relationship.

What kind of value?

The reason why those girls don’t go for you but go for killers and stranglers is for the vibe and emotional roller coaster he provides.

This is not true.

Masculinity is when you mirror yourself in the image of God and become God-like.

They probably don't look at you but they do look around just like guys. I actually had this happen to me today in a restaurant. But when I locked eyes they quickly disengaged the eye contact. Women appreciate good vibes that a guy has. If a guy looks good but has a bad vibe, they don't tend to look.

@bambi do you have a link to your story?

Men don’t enjoy sex the same way women do. Most men want to have sex because they can’t think straight without sex. For women this is not the case of not being able to think straight without sex. Post nut clarity and just being able to relax is what most guys want. Although the sex itself can be enjoyable too. Comparing it to Scooby Doo desires for food is a bastardization of male libido (kundalini up).