creativepursuit

The self is an illusion and is one of the last and highest spiritual teachings (like non-duality). The ancient sages in India used to reject disciples (princes and kings at that time) and ask them to spend years purifying their minds through meditation, devotion, karma, etc. before they considered them ready for the last teachings.

What would practically change about your life once you "see" the truth?

It's all about the journey, my friend, always.

Orwell calls this Doublethink.

why so rude?

thank you

Here I see a contradiction. Can you feel love without the memory? Not getting entangled in your own or other's Karma and remaining detached is one way to attain enlightenment and freedom, but it is not the path to Love. Besides, Not getting entangled in others or more dangerously your karma is not an optimal way to live. It is like not taking accountability for your own actions.

My Einstien mind has been thinking about this: We know of three states of consciousness that we all can directly access. 1. Waking State 2. Dreaming State 3. Deep Sleep State When we die in our dreams, fall from a building, or someone choked or frightened, why do we come to a waking state rather than going to deep sleep? Does this indicate when and if we die in the waking state, we naturally go to a lower state of consciousness (as per law)?

@Yimpa Yes, every tradition has Trinity in one way or the other, there might be some truth to it.

All religion teaches one thing - Modesty. Greed is one of the extremes on the scale of no desire to excessive desire. Without desire it's impossible to live and function in this world and with excessive desire anyone can easily manipulate you and you can forget spirituality in this life.

Without external substance, these three states are accessible to every person.

it seems You make a good point that when we don't die in the dream we continue sleeping and go to deep sleep. It seems that when we die in dreams we wake up to our current/waking reality, and when we wake up from the deep sleep, we also wake up to the current reality, and maybe it is an indication of the full circle that this current reality is both the lowest and highest at the same time, kind of non-dual awakening.

the witness consciousness I think

I don't think anyone can really answer your question about reincarnation. Tbh, when I think about it, do we know if Anand Mayi Maa reincarnated despite being devoted to God her whole life? No. Do we know if Sadhguru's wife who willingly left her body, reincarnated or not? No. Do we know if Osho, who remembered all his past lives and spent all his life teaching spiritual stuff and getting into scams later, was incarnated or not? No. But, from my limited understanding, I can tell that, you will keep reincarnating until you have no desire left, worldly or other-worldly, even a desire for liberation is a desire.

In Vedic tradition human body = physical body + subtle body + causal body (merits and demerits). To answer you, (and I am also just guessing) most likely it is the causal body that reincarnates. Because, at the absolute level, the causality doesn't exist, so when the causal body reaches that state it merges back in absolute.

yes, suffering is inevitable, the choice is ours whether we want to suffer out of ignorance or out of sweetness and appreciation for God/Reality.

Ego is not a bad thing. If there is a crack in the mirror, the reflection will be fragmented and will look divided into many pieces. That's what the world does to our ego. But, your pure self, the one who is looking in the mirror, is always there witnessing unaffected by crack and blemishes.

This is how the Alchemist viewed the unconscious. If you want to explore something new/unconscious, first remove your head, put it carefully near a tree, and remember this place. Go to the forest and learn to see things as it is. Once you are done, come back to the tree and put your head back carefully but not just with any glue, a glue that has sweetness, meaning you come back to the world with a more integrative mindset. This ego is not the same ego that left for the forest. it's more expanded. That's the message.

You are right about this. The ego is really powerful. Even sages who spent 15 years meditating in the Himalayas, can get angry because ultimately it's about Survival. Truth can get you killed, literally—for example, Mahatma Gandhi.

You can't function without the Ego, you need to stick your head back when you come out of the cave, but don't just stick it, stick it with honey. The ego has its function to play for example, you can utilize the Ego to set goals for you.

Nope, the Ego dissolves at the witnessing place and all that is left is the Self alone. Then when you interact with people, the pure self is shining through you, not the Ego. Noice that training the Ego by living in the world is just an illusion as the ego itself is an illusion and inanimate.

What do you think?

interesting, can you share the source of this study?

what do you mean by "If there's no you, there's no God?"

Human = Physical body + Subtle body (senses, memories, thoughts, and feelings) + Causal body (past karma, merit, demerits, impressions)