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Thank you. I want to remind that in Buddhist system of elements - Mahābhūta - (here probably the western one is used, but there are connections) fire is the element of will, or the heat and energy; water is the element of flow through temporary situations, or of having the round corners. So "through fire and water" might mean flowing with round corners, with personal will or the energy and heat. In the western system of four elements (Aristotle later added fifth, the Aether, corresponding to Space in Buddhism, making the elements worldwide equal more or less - but in some systems we have wood or metal in place of another element) fire is also associated with energy or passion, thus a personal will, and water is associated with emotion and intuition - thus also making us to flow through changing situations. In the Jewish War, by my own intuition, Josephus in the Roma is determined mostly by the fire element, feeling his unique personal mission, which would change the history. The free will or personal will can never work properly if it's not related to Godly mission, or higher idea - the Solar Plexus would be blocked and non-functional -, so the existence of the fire element itself would somehow prove his mission; this feeling is associated with some "Godly guidance" or being in favour of the real-world facts. The word "mission" itself is associated with fire element; it can be personal and unique in the beginning, and then grow big. In modern whichcraft, which also uses the five elements (and is more ethics-based than the old whichcraft, which was prone to excess of personal will), pentagram is associated with each element through it's corners. Sometimes I like whichcraft, but I rather compare it dangerous when related to Buddhism, Christianism or other major religion, as those are models based on modern ethics, whereas whichcraft was originally based on ancient ethics - but this is very important, as ancient ethics gives us archetypes simpler and more easy to see or compare with symbolized physical events and objects; if you go to the end with the ancient symbolics, they are as high as modern religion. It's very good song about the shadows of mind - https://spireason.neocities.org/Yin and Yang in Meditation.pdf in this text I wrote about those shadows, how they appear in our mind, and how they are natural part of life's processes through Dukkha; we cannot avoid them. In the beginning, they get more unhealthy, but as we get more used with working with them, they get more healthy - if you avoid the shadow completely, keeping it out of mind, as some positive thinkers can do, they become underdeveloped and perverted concepts of the real thing and you do not learn to solve conflicts ethically; thus we cannot critizise too much when people are going through shadows; in jewish mythology, they say the it's the day and night of soul, and that you inevitably go through days and nights. This way, jewish is quite developed about shadows. Buddha says that you must watch, in meditation, things coming and going, neutrally - whatever happens; this is sometimes more developed concept than concentrating on bliss and love, which is rather the end result of every process, and the beginning in id phase (before eating from the tree of good and bad, you have the childish version of truth, after going through shadows - or spiritual battles - you develop mature and independent version of the same; religions go through atheism - in the end, they have some conception of higher truth or god again, but they are much more personally responsible; id phase is like living with parents, and superego phase is like living alone, but being friends with parents - the kind of atheism, which later becomes enlightened, is like the ego phase, where you have conflict with your parents and pain of being alone; I'm not saying that atheists, in the end, become believers, but I only say that they develop a high standard of moral and ethics, which is equal to having God or creating it in your life; I am saying that when you are kicked out of your Godly home, the lack of God in all the infinity you see, of theorems and of space, is so strong and the theorem of God is so empty, that your model is atheism even if you have some inner belief in God; so there is an aspect of God being psychological - when you enter the ego phase, start to develop your personality, the initial instincive presence of God will go away and you start to create Godly aspects, like presence of Truth, Love and Civilization in your life, and when these are very strong, you are in free flow as if God exists - but this is equal to creating God subjectively, as the flow of favourable events is equal and it's achieved through the aspects, which are told to be Godly; this way I have transcended the buddhist idea of being beyond existence and non-existence of God - what really exists, is much more complex and involves all God, atheism and things in between, and you haven't really philosophized about God before those start to seem to be one thing; if your karma about God is so bad that you receive nothing, the God would indeed disappear from your whole reality, and the reality you have created does not contain God - and philosophically, this reality without God is as real as any other). In reality without God, the Fire element of free will still only works when the situation is favourable and when it's the real thing, so then you can speak of Will of God. This way, the Jewish War, when you look at the will of Josephus, proves that "God has given Israel to Jews", and this fact is completely unrelated to the conceptions of God existing or not - God is far too complex to exist or not, is the totality of reality, and the atheist laws of nature are also a totality of reality, whereas God's attributes are there positive ends to follow, and in enlightening of culture - the kind of enlightenment which happened with scientific revolution or democratization - the Godly attributes become a part of totality of our reality, thus our subjective state becomes closer to some kind of existence of God, but we remain independent and co-creators. So the appearance of atheism is in the religion, which should see it as well, the case where one stops directly obeying the God and starts looking for a mature, independent, equal relationship with God, and this is where the relationship of child and the father leads as well. This conception of God also explains, why "Gods" of different cultures are different and why they fight about them - this is the process of independence, of subjectivity of God, as it's indeed equal or the same thing we create ourselves with out lives and our Karma. This is very hard to be an atheist and believe in the God at the same time, and this might appear in the end of enlightenment.

I think blood is a very complex thing and mixing to some degree is very important - the blood of Arabs has been long time ago somewhat mixed with the blood of Jews, and there might be important genes one of the family is carrying and evolving for the others. Completely pure blood is always bound to die - aristocrat families, which did not mix their blood, got a specific genetic disorder more or less every time this happened. Somehow, the genes are working for evolution, and families of jews and arabs, which have made love thousands of years ago, are bound to marry sometimes again, to keep their genetic information up to date. I know about aristocrat blood - my father has aristocrat blood, and my mother is more or less pure viking, but also quite a good family of them. She has good relations to America, so I sometimes imagine she is american; maybe the blood was carried to america long time ago. Just because she always makes friends there Aristocrats of Russia as my grand-grand-father, they used to live a certain tradition and this tradition was dead one day; most of them was killed, but my family had not breaken the democratic lifestyle very much and was more of a modern family, so the people did not want to kill them. Now, in another condition, where more freedom and legal laws were introduced - and USSR was definitely a step up to a civilization in Russia, not down, even if it got broke later -, they had kind of depression; my grand-grand-father was definitely broken and with some inner hate as I can relate on the photos. The cultural shift meant that the family identity was broken and they were not so able to relate the family symbols and beliefs with democracy, as I am - somewhat they had to cope with the new thinking and this is absolutely yin, to surrender. Here, to fit into the new culture, you can not follow your ideals much - my grandfather could, as his ideal was science and he was quite fit there. So your own personality is very much shadowed as it does not fit into the new society. Probably similar thing happened to peasants as well as they could not live only by the tradition, I hear that there was a lot of pain there in some places at least, but I can speak of my own experience. I personally believe that this is a normal phase of human development that sometimes you have a shadow, you are very much concerned about not being perfect. In this phase, I can see my family was proud that they do like the new civilization, and want to build it more or less. They were very rich before and they had to learn that money is not everything, also the social relations and other things matter (well they were lucky to have built some - who could not be upgraded to new level of civilization, was definitely killed at these times, and something like this has been happened in every country in the world, as catholics ran through similar process of "genetic breeding", you could not avoid). Here the second generation, my father, was very much into the new society and identifying as such, but his past ideals were still very broken and the way to criticize the society by talking about old lost values he knew, was not healthy. So I had to work a lot with the wounds of my father as I was a child (and my mother) and I resolved into completely modern psychology and solutions, and adapted a lot. I found out that the family culture of mine had resolved into being part of the democratic process, and following strictly a mission of "doing their own thing", the music and a lots of things have resolved around this resolution. Now it's a society of free and equal people, but when you carry a high purpose, you can introduce it to society, and the aristocrat symbolism of the old had been resolved around this. Many are just free and happy members of the new culture, with power of, say, singing of engineering - as the "governance" is defined as building infrastructure, things like bridges, and other elements of civilization, they could simply do that. So I defined lately that the first generation is completely overshadowed, not so happy as they have broken heart and thinking, and is not coping very much - even if they are idealistic, they cannot very naturally be themselves, but they have certain depression to solve. The second generation is more or less adapted, but the way they express their personal ideals is more or less broken. The third generation, if the family is healing, has integrated their own purpose with the new culture, and transcended their symbols in such way that the experience of the family would not be lost. For example, a King archetype would apply to famous singer like Eminem, the war and battle archetype to hip hop battles, and the victory into convincing the listener into the meaning of the music; so the successful leadership is if they get their message heard. About the positive and negative outcomes, the fairy tales of the past could be studied another time, given that the archetypes are not direct and physical meanings of the words, but similar powers in the new society, where the people are free. Well many families tried to keep them free in the past as well, so this is not a new conception for the christian fighters or the fairy tales, which were somewhat symbolic even in the past. Now if this goes into integrating an arab into a jewish culture, you can think it's quite good when: the first generation is painful about the integration, but still carries the ideal of becoming a member and being fully functional, and they can look a little bit tortured even if they proudly avoid telling that and try to cope with their new reality. The second generation would be integrating, but they are hard to deal if they express their own ideals, which are not fully developed. The third generation is able to learn from their experience and more or less fully integrate. To grow appropriate roots into the society, this takes longer. Now, as they have some genetic powers, they have developed them again and successfully integrated into the jewish society - in this, they can be creative and not suspressed, and the jewish family generally gets something new, a new blood. Integrating with the arab families, which have a history of being successful friends with jews, can ensure that the jewish blood is decent and new "inventions" of the arab gene are not lost. Also their religion is more or less borrowed from jewish religion and you would like to ensure that you have all the new developments also in your genetics. From the jewish side, they have some specific jewish genes and characteristics, and in all the mixing, they want to ensure that these continue to exists, they have to rebalance. I think we have some kind of masterplan for the genetic mutations we plan for our families, and this means keeping some central genetic information alive, but constantly getting the genes from others all around the world to stay up-do-date with all the "inventions" the genes are able to do; and to create stronger bonds with those families. In some times, aristocrats have tried to keep their bloodlines pure - this is not modern, and also this is bound to fail by introducing genetic disorders. For a nation, they would come later, but surely the genes would not be up to date. So it's very important to know some characteristics you need from others; for example in democracy, you need some genes to serve, some yin aspects some family might be weaker in, or to socialize more and adapt with the culture instead of creating one; but also other families can introduce new genetic combinations, which are aristocratic in nature or introduce something new to this - this means, having more honour, being more civilized, more advanced in building the infrastructures etc. It's healthy to want those combinations and mix with new families, which have developed aristocrat characteristics or have developed something new you cannot compete with. This takes generations to get those genes properly, but I think there is something deeper and more substantial about a family or a nation than the genes; you have some model of ideal genetics and characteristics and the genes, they are also mixed to achieve that - over the generations, you get your face back and you are more yourself than before. The combinations you got from other nations long time again, they are evolved in their purity, and you want something more from these families over time, and the connections you got with other families, you want to grow them stronger. With arabs, you have a very good starting point that they have direct lines from king David, Abraham etc., and they must somehow represent those values. They are large nation introducing many new genes and you have to "harvest" this. Actually, a genuine love has to do something here. When the ideals of arab families, their archetypes and lessons, are properly integrated, when they go through the shadow until they find the common truth behind truth of their new nationality and old one, the larger jewish archetype would carry on until the family structure with new genes once again has all the jewish ideal characteristics. I personally think that jews and the aristocrats are the yin and yang of one polarity of "god-chosen" nations or families, aristocrats being yang, are chosen one-by-one, and jews as a collective. So the jews represent the material element and aristocrats the ideal element; the first ones achive a lot in the collective, material state, whereas the other gives rise to single personalities, who transcend some flat and wide aspect, like laws, into a new stage. There exists a relationship of hate and love in this yin and yang, but I think it has historically usually resolved. In this, when I put aside the religious reasons to live along with your journey to heaven, I have to think about king Arthur, who is marked as a special person in aristocrat history, and who went several times to fight for Israel. His deep meanings - well, of war - are of utmost importance to me; aristocrats also carried through the christian wars, which has jewish roots - somehow, this conception of heaven seemed to fit with the idealistic world-view, and beat the others, so it had to be introduced as a law. Jews have lived along with aristocrat activities sometimes supporting with the money, as aristocrats tend to be poor very often and not have money for the whole country, jews somehow manage this. And then, there are heavy incidents of war, but with so strong alchemy between two nations, this is normal that you see both extremes repeating, it resolves something greater - for a nation, if some people are becoming poor or die, it's not so big matter, but what matters a lot, whether the surviving part can build something higher than before. I don't have many feelings about many families killed in revolutions, they were usually too proud or something Usually these are local incidents, the big wars and peace processes somehow go on. Here I have some deep love for the jews, which is sometimes shadowed - in love, you always get angry when you see some imperfection; for some other nations, when they show imperfections, I don't care at all. But I think the genes of those two nations are not too easily mixed - well, we have kings of jews and jewish families, who have carried it to leadership characteristics.

About Arabs given the jewish identity, I think this is what you expect if you join another nation - you get some part of their identity, you read the textbooks etc. One side is liberty and right of being yourself, but the other side is that jewish nation really is something and they have some theory about what they are doing. You cannot just ignore that if you are going to live there. There is the other side of the inevitability that they cannot do that if they don't expect those things from the people joining them. The world is not only a place where you just go somewhere and live your own life, you always see something people are doing around you and with your house, your personality and plans, you are somehow a part of their culture and identity there. You have your own karma to solve, but this is not separate from karma, which is shared between people - the collective karma. So sometimes you have to have your own identity and culture long time deep in the shadow of another culture, or a need of the world and people around you, and you have to integrate and purify a lot to get your own idea and personality back, fresh and lighting, fitting into the challenges of the new culture around you. For example, better part of aristocrats were fighting for the democratic revolution (and communist revolution is one type of democratic revolution, capitalist revolution is another - they both started some kind of civilizing process; I have somehow integrated them in me, like I have done with religions, having only some inner conflicts to solve, not many). Still, when the revolution came, they lost a lot and they become darkened, shadowed by the new culture - which, indeed, was in the state of the higher law and therefore not to be attacked by an aristocrat. What is the role and purpose in the aristocrat ideal of carrying and executing higher ideals in society and technology etc., this was initially shadowed and seeing how their long-learnt archetypes make sense in the new culture, enrichening the environment, where people are more independent, this take some good 2 generations. So this was normal for 2 generations to have a shadow, and then start to bring some culture about how their archetypes are carried out in the new society - for example, what are the characteristics and activities of people, who identify themselves with the archetype of "king" in the new society; like there are "rock kings" and "pop queens". The battles for the holy grail, the knights and the ladys, they exist on some metaphysical sense and not in the "real world"; and even there it seems it needs to be calmed down somehow. The old peasants, they need not to be commanded, but genuinely inspired ..I think the culture of war and leadership, honor and laws - they are inseparable part of royal blood and culture, but what these words means, this has to go through long and deep night in the process of democratization, before it can be goldened into something, what makes sense in the democratic process and it's ideals. Despite that the democracy itself, it's a higher form than kingdoms, carrying out every single ideal of a kingdom usually in somewhat better way. Similarly, it's natural that a Muslim has to become a jew first, and their ideals and cultures are shadowed. Once they do this, they have to integrate their own motive, which also respects David and Salomon and integrates with a lots of jewish wisdom, and they can finally bring out their good motives and show that in culture of Israel, it is enrichening to have a new contact with another culture. Your own wisdom is not gone, when you become a part of the collective, with it's problems and opportunities, but it's having a depression with long time, maybe several generations - usually two -, and only them, after becoming a part of them, you can slowly start seeing, where they fail your own ideals and where you can really profoundly change and enrichen them. You can have an arab ideal in jewish words and this can inspire them as a new light to some matters, and so you have also served your mother nation as well.

You want to "beat zionists", but you should consider that there is a yin and yang law - the zionists might be wrong, if you look at all the implications they want to bring, but to really beat them, you have to consider that they have some core of truth and even if this is underdeveloped, they win you unless you acquire the better part of this core of truth, like the yin and yang expect - if you do not contain this healthy amount of yin, it's core mission, and if you don't integrate this, they might be polar to you, but they always win. Probably they have quite narrowly their own truth right now, but you must assume you nohow "win" or "beat" this truth unless you learn this truth, make it be part of you, and then enlighten it so much that you have to kill, or mistreat others much less. Then, you can say you are legally stronger. If the minority is aggressive and violent with their truth, there are chances that it's the only thing they can do - in case you learn their basis, and do not fail their pure and true motives, you can start criticizing their means or the need to somehow ignore you in the process. You have to consider that the "enemy" is doing the work however good they can. There is a song of Bob Marley, "Iron Lion Zion", this is even muslim-respected by the way, african muslims definitely respect him; in this song the Zion is simply a genuine word for some heaven or some level or aspect or plane of heaven. Definitely something, which well-vibrates with my spirit. I can guess this is what they originally meant, the Zionists - if you occasionally fought them down, you became an enemy of someones ideal (and not of someones shadow), and the ideals always win - if they started to fight or ignore you in the process, their heaven might not seem much to you; you have not invested there and thus you are probably left out. Things you are left out of, they are, indeed, bad For any myth, you have to see it has all the colors. If Zion is equal to Jerusalem and Jerusalem is connected to becoming Heaven, then for example it vibrates with my Buddhist truth what Christ said, that Heaven must materialize on Earth You have to invest in this thing and then find out, what is the shadow of this heaven and how to transcend or fight this. I think you are stupid and mad, if you want to fight against jewish heaven - that jews have some part in materializing heaven on earth is something written in all your myths, and if you leave them doing this alone, you are not probably part of it. This might be a material fact about you and them, which vibrates in such way with a religion, that it seems like a religious fact - religion is quite open about the relations, beween you and the zionist or the jew and the arab, which seem like religious arguments, the argument of religion has simply reached that point for today, and has to see some light to transcend these conflicts and find some real progress. In nature, you and the zionist, or muslim and a jew, have no conflict at all, and if you are very static about your sides in the conflict, neither side might be thankful in the end, you might be unable to explain in the process of solution, what you did and who you are and why you hate some sides so much. As a Buddhist I have to say that I definitely like the projects about heavens, and I see how they sometimes become so shadowed and start to leave people out or fight - but when they work through all those shadows, they are very shining things; even the Arab heavens.

But you forgot to say that non-citizens are taken into account ..from this, you can protect yourself Made me to relax ..I'm quite neutral in this, I watch the Arab rights as well, but I don't like if the Israel is not jewish

Then there is a lot of work to do to integrate others and find out they are "legal jews" in some sense, in being the legal cityzens of their country? Are they friendly people for the jews, and are they willing to mix their blood, understandings and family contacts in a way that jews would simply evolve and get some new blood; or are they somehow inviders? These are my questions, I don't understand it from the news I think that in the end, when the blood and cultures are mixed, Israel should somehow belong to jews and this should be the case that Israeli culture is mixed afterwards and the blood is more jewish, getting some jewish characteristics even from non-jews - I think it's really possible you get more jewish by having marriage with non-jew, if they have a characteristic jews have been wanting to have and do not have so much. Genes also have the ideals and not only the material, and there is some mental genetics about what the jews want to be. For example, aristocrats, when they had children only with their own family, finally got a genetic disorder - so the nations should be mixed with other nations, but in this process, they should receive and give away the genes in combinations that they finally got what they desired, by being their own nation, and give out what others desired; in addition to genes, nations have dreams, and genes are mere tools for those dreams, not the identifiers of the nations. So as Americans looked for great people of the others, or like Russians are happy to mix their genetics with their respected and grand people of other nations, I hope jews find the immigrants genuinely jewish in some sense, bringing a fresh blood and culture traits, which the jews "secretly" dream of. This is the kind of positive attitude to this, which I can give - but the other cultures coming, they must then be already kind of patriots of jews, whatever are their own nations. I think in the fractal, every nation has every trait of every other nation, the balance is repeating - for example, there is a family of kings, and the one of jews, but jews also have kings and some jewish families have started behaving like royal families, acquiring and proving the traits, which would make them genuinely royal in generations and finally make the royal genes richer in their diversity and in their own characteristics. Royal genes also need to grow all the good traits of the "servants", especially as they are enlightened to democracy, however contradictory it would seem - in democracy, somehow, you can carry the ideals to the end, and this is what the royal characteristics should do, to go further with the ideals than the laws require them, and to inspire people with the newer laws. So the jews as well, they should ask about what is genuinely jewish about these immigrants.

In the Soviet Union they used to say - there are lies, and there is statistics. These numbers, even if they are true, do not make sense without facts - for example, why to build a terrorist underground base under hospital? This can protect you for a while, but when things get serious, it adds up into exactly this kind of statistics. I don't know, why Iran is moving, but let's say it is because of such statistics - they cannot very reasonably say that don't attack Gaza terrorists, this is not so easy to say. But I want to point out, this is a common war paradox. People are connected by area and similar look, even similar thinking, and when you definitely want to attack certain people in group, you usually cannot do this without attacking some others, whichever the means of attack. For this, you would have to see it very directly, but even then it seems that neighbors are helping them. In old times, when one person of a group - in ship or military unit - commited a crime, or other prohibited thing, they used to punish everybody or punish every 10th man, in case they did not know, who is guilty. Then, it was expected, the group will do the punishment among themselves, by themselves, to avoid further collective punishment. As we got better psychology and better strategies to identify the guilty or protect your property and ethics, this was made illegal. Over time, we expect smaller and smaller numbers of women and children killed, or civilians attacked - spy technologies, preciseness of weapons and other advanced war strategies get better, and thus it's reasonable to think that attacks go more and more directly against enemy. But this cannot be perfect and the ethics is neither perfect, because contra these murders on one side, we balance the number with killed innocent people on the other side. This is very possible that Gazans managed to fear or kill some people, who really want to be terrorists in Gaza, whatever their reasons - if they attacks are not very precise and if they cannot protect them in later court process, say, winning the process by the laws of different countries in 10 years, or pointing out how the laws are against constitution, they very probably create enemies, who are not criminals. If we are very precise about the fact that the war must not touch civilians, we might be idealistic - in case of no dead civilians on one side, there are dead civilians on the other side, and thus the numbers cannot be "ideal". So when we count every injured civilian and murder, and reply with a murder, this might be unrealistic communication strategy and do what the Christ warned us about - a negative cycle impossible to solve. In history, there are cases of two families completely killing all of each other, because of some initial murders, as they reply every act of violence with another act of violence. As Christ taught - I'm a Buddhist, but I sometimes have to cite Christ for clarity -, this life paradox leads to need to forgive, however hard the case. So the Muslims and indeed, Israel, must balance between punishment and forgiveness somehow, as both sides have definitely killed some innocents and they cannot avoid this any more as the serious war is in process and there, in case you want to live, you must protect yourself and also continue the crime (of probabilistically killing civilians or innocent people). And indeed, the civilians could do, instead of simply following the law and being innocent, an active work with the laws and understanding each other, following the laws more than needed by the laws - with active, positive strategy, some civilians would indeed become so important on both sides, that the attacks would try to carefully avoid killing them. Neutral people are, well, neutral - it's quite neutral thing whether you see them as helpful brothers and sisters of the criminal, or you see them as innocent. To be truly innocent in terrorist area, and expect yourself be seen as human by the people, who punish the terrorist, you must do active work on human rights, peace and future friendship of the nations, or enlightened parts of them (which also helps everybody). I think in Gaza sector the human rights activists have not even managed to fight out the basic human rights, which can be deadly, but avoids the war - which is as deadly, but much more random process. Even for the terrorists, what I figured out right now - I don't really listen much to their words, but I want to say that even from terrorist, to take this peace thing around them any seriously, I want to hear that they attack these jews with respect of the jewish people in general, and I want to see terrorists putting flowers on the graves of innocent people they have killed, because they have no more precise weapons. Israel, as well, should apologize honest muslims for innocent people, who were killed, and explain, that they could not avoid this. Whether the enemy has or has not any enlightened part right now, this enlightened part should be honored somehow, and encouraged to have the process inside to, for example, give Israel the true lists and arguments about who is a terrorist, who is "neutral", and who is actively fighting for better world and mutual understanding and friendship. I think being completely neutral is not possible and you are in terms of probability, if you are living in Gaza sector and not fighting for human rights, for example for terrorists making public apologizes about their weapons, preciseness and jewish civilians killed. I would like to see that terrorists are considering that they are attacking jewish terrorist of some kind, and making huge mistakes by attacking absolutely random positions with their weapons. When Soviet Union and Communist Chinese Party were fighting against capitalists in other countries - I was living my 6 first years in Soviet Union and I consider it's philosophy kind of legal, I think the capitalist and communist are like yin and yang to unite someday, capitalist cannot be free and communist cannot get rich, but both things should be legal -, they found in countries they attacked some honest people to find information about locals, to find out, who is robbing the poor and who is not, and to make the lists of people and weapon targets such that the communist would minimize the number of innocent - for them - people attacked in the area. I would say terrorists are far from the law of war, but they should not give up - they should look at their own numbers of innocents killed, try to create the communication and other processes to identify the real enemy, they should try to do some legal court cases, where they don't simply accuse jews in being jews - and in Muslim history, some jews have been very much respected -; so they should follow the laws of war at least so much to have a minimal rightful activity. They should explain the innocent jews or their government, who they are accusing and in what, and give the numbers and facts about how they have developed in attacking their rightful targets and not the random people in last 10 years. I don't watch the terrorist tapes, but by what I have seen in the news and articles about these things, there is not a single sign of the terrorist taking the human right documents any seriously - if you are in the war, maybe you are really an undeveloped savage and you cannot do much, but in the modern world, you should have at least some processes and reports about how you follow the human right and the law of war, to be taken any seriously; and those "innocent" civilians - they cannot be simply neutral about civil rights and laws, because that attitude really does not involve being a citizen of some country; they should be somewhat active to develop the human rights and war laws in their very underdeveloped military. They can raport about their progress, also how they made the civilian areas separated from the military areas and communicated their lawfulness to Israel in clear and verifiable terms. If all this is done, by Iran as well in this case, their arguments would be much stronger and not the ones animal is using to protect against human. The good start is the symbolic case - the terrorists or the Israel, they should apologize about killed civilians and put the flowers on their graves, and explain the unavoidable major force doing this. The Iran, in it's explanation for a war, should also explain their successful history in introducing the humans rights and war laws to terrorists and their areas, how they guaranteed that a legal citizen is undangered and can fight for these things in these areas, etc. What is the succesful record of Iran in managing that Israel would not need to attack innocent people - for example, if those people are killed for talking in Gaza, then there have to be numbers about how many Iran identified and saved from those conditions, inviting them to Iran, where they can be fighting for human right. In case they are against human rights and war laws, I think there should be explanations about this and the court cases against human rights and consitution, and in case the human rights and war laws do not exist, it should be explained, by which terms they consider that their people should not be killed - is there any law, or is this just a natural instinct of both sides to fight for their survival, be it "legal" or not. I would read a terrorist paper, where they explain the human rights and the case about whether the human rights apply only to some sides, or whether the known war laws are somehow very biased. But I see the terrorists have been fighting for so many years that it's now already expected that they give some raport about their success in developing a modern war in terms of protecting humans rights and war laws, respecting their enemy and the rights of it's innocent civilians, and becoming more and more precise about attacking exactly their war target and not the random people, even with their limited means. Otherwise, just too much more modern war is expected from Israel having no success themselves, when they talk about numbers of innocent people killed - if jews have no human rights at all, then muslims should also explain this complex law by which they expect not to be killed, and the universal and equal basis of such law, or the universal and equal case about why the universality and equality of the law would not be applied. The civilians, also, would explain, why they are neutral about this, and why they should not be saved and accidentially killed in some percentage, in case they are really unallowed to talk.

The modern conceptions, which are in question: Overcoming the Good and Bad - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Good_and_Evil ..this work was attacked by Catholic church, or at least this party of thinking, and the Muslims represents the same traditional perspective to any resulting thoughts. "Beyond God and Satan", "Beyond God and non-God" - God is so essential that this kind of liberation is really hard to conceptualize. This is a really deep process and it's rather about the Natural Laws being non-changing (concept, which exists even in belief of God - he is absolutely fair, treating everyone equally, so that natural laws would appear). God is kind of psychological - when you live in this archetype of doing it yourself, which is becoming adult in sense of religion, your model must be without God as father-in-home. Working with the dark energy, understanding the evil. Evil is inevitable part of creation, but as a religion or young person starts to comprehend this, the elder cannot understand. It's also a very deep philosophy, which sees that Satan must be somehow a creation of God and we cannot survive without giving this creation some freedom. Buddhism, as very old religion, has overcome this - in a sense, like God and no-God does not exist, also Good and Evil does not exist. To know what this really means - before these things become adult and healthy, it looks like plain Satanism. Raise of freedoms of such kind were hard. Individuation. An individual somehow creates their destiny and is not a part of their family and tribe, following the same business like a slave. This is a thing hard to understand for traditional person. Philosophical thought. Guessing all values and truths, developing philosophies, which are neutral to things we cannot know ..ideally, in the end, we know everything again, but in the beginning, we eat this apple of good and bad. Some more conceptions. Tradition is in id phase, and follows the parents without questioning. In certain age, people fall into sin and do not follow the parents - this is the liberal revolution. They experiment and they also have their fights and battles for truth, they do sin. As they grow old, they learn again something the children knew, they become enlightened. When the religions enter the battles around this, they become somewhat shadowed - they were told to love each other, but in the battles they forget this and they are far from truth and enlightened states. So they are very serious that their religions tell them not to love each others, they cannot see it from outside perspective of their current problems and troubles. In time, they learn to see this thing from higher perspective and know that they always become friends again, so that the battles would be less serious.

Your gandfather not giving you the money, because you are punk or rock-n-roll. You earning your own money. Finally the family forgives. Can you see the difference?

I must empathize my point about Jewish modernism and american music coming from Satan. Muslims and Russians are connected by this understanding (my father is Russian and I really don't want to go into argument with him about this). In younger religion, old men always say that the additional good-evil paradox of youth comes from satan, and so do their modernized views. Here, the American music coming from Satan - but the fathers of those American people also told them, the hippies and others, who left their homes, that their more liberal views come from Satan. It's generally known that more liberal views come from Satan and the God was originally very traditional, and the old men die if they don't follow their traditions like animals do. Young start with philosophy and thinking and from Jesus to Socrates, this is very dangerous. Here, by the old of our own - they were really younger in terms of their history, and Arabs are very young in these terms, so they naturally think like our old men and find some agreement as well. For example, small families of modern era come from Satan, as God said we must become many. But we also have the overpopulation and need to stay in family budget and in our given lands. I can see where these opposites, the liberal and traditional, the yin and yang in both orders, come from. But this archetype of big, strong family listening traditional music and classics is so strong that it has to be understood by Jews - they are one of the most modern societies as they proudly say, and this makes them one of the most "Satanistic" for the older men and younger traditions of theirs; they leave their homes and fight for freedom, today the religious freedom as well. This all is not tolerated very much and they must somehow handle this archetype as this is very typical ..young muslims, they are "from Satan" as well, already for their families. Very old religions don't care any more, they simply state that "youth is from Satan as usual" and that they did the same thing when they were young, they were "from Satan". This conception maybe helps in seeing the whole paradox of war beween England, America, Europe and Israel on one side; and more traditional Russia, China, and Muslims on the other side. It's the typical family paradox seen as young becoming rebels, leaving homes and fighting their countries more free in philosophical thinking. Those youth and old really cannot understand each others.

Additionally, I have to say I like what's going on here around the topics of being delusional, having one-sided viewpoint, or not having it; I think all sides of this argument develop something for this complex. You can meditate on these "contradictionary" arguments - in war, the two sides are "contradictionary" in a sense, but the logic must somehow follow for both sides. So there is a point in seeing this contradiction, thus in taking both sides, and the logic in overcoming this or seeing the inevitability of some battles. So there are actually four different viepoints - both sides can be True or False in your logic: True, False: One side is correct. False, True: Other side is correct. True, True: They should somehow cooperate. False, False: They inevitably attack each other and both have deep reasons for this. All these four "archetypes" have a certain sense of meaning and the truth in two sides fighting is not completely positive in this sense that you reach reasoned arguments, which seem to contradict something said about the other side. So in addition to those four values, the battle between them should be seen a value itself - a game of archetypes in mind, which can become somewhat enlightened, more intelligent, and overcome it's wounds. I can understand that for some arabs in Gaza, who have lived a good life, Israel simply attacked innocent people, if they don't look around, and for Israel, the murder is too much to start considering the ethical guidelines in this, for example an arab might think the American music played in the party is from Satan. It's the same archetype by which the older generations often say that the music, sayings and style of the youth is really from Satan this time, but then the youth does not listen this very much and finally develops something to stay. The older generations of Muslims have not seen such change very much and they are very painful about the music and styles of younger generations, or of Israel, which has been modernized very much and thus seem absolutely evil for some younger tradition or for the older people of their tradition. You always need to continue the evil archetype as well, as you develop higher with goodness - the paradox of peace and war, or the paradox of police (fighting with weapon), it never goes away; even in Paradise the God suddenly starts story of Noah and then, many people would say Christian morales must be a bad thing to have if they protect such thing

I think you are right in this - there are no poor jews, but only jews, who don't have money at the moment. As they represent the material element. If muslims are going to "take back" the Israel, there will be probably another thousand years of silent war and they get back this; from my viewpoint it's somewhat hard to see, why muslims so surely want this little piece of land, whose ownership is at best questionable and which will be fought back anyway, so they cannot grow strong roots there. It's absolutely questionable if you want to take "back" the sacred piece of land of another, if they are so sure in this and for you it's rather one of the many lands in your area. I think in material world the urge for "completeness" is completely unhealthy. For example you have a company of building and you want *every* market, which is related to building - the material thing you have is always a little bit incomplete or broken. For Muslims in Arabia, the Israel is a little yin in yang, the "false", which is part of the true - when they take it all, the muslims, they would have complete yang and complete yang will always break ..they will have israely spys for rest of their life and they cannot kill all of them because of human rights; by achieving completeness they cannot have it really. It's the monopoly game, where you have 90% of something of your ideal, and then you try harder and harder to have 100% ..but this 100% is killing you. Rather you should stay with some "flaws" and accept that the material world will like this a lot more ..because this "endgame" is just collecting meaningless score. Looking the history of this land, jews are coming and going, and they always have annoying aliens there like romans or englandia (king Arthur); they never have it complete, but they never give up; and they might be quite a small nation themselves, but christians never forget that Jesus was a jew, and that their old testament is basically Torah, or some restricted edition of it. So they always find it very important part of their own mythology that jews live in Israel - and Christianity, in all countries there will be always many Christians. Also the muslims can not make their claims about Israel never quite complete from the viewpoint of any nation or religion; the jews always have a word to say. Everybody has to agree that Arabia is the land of muslims, and ancient and important home land, but it has this little exception forever in the holy books of the world. It's very stupid to try to take this piece of "useless land" (from the reasoned viewpoint of arabs, for who it's only a land) from jews, as useless it is to keep another nation constantly angry and depressed. You have to make a sacrifice to win a war, and for arabs, Israel is The Sacrifice. Jews and Arabs have very long relationship thoughout different times and empires, and there has been a constant struggle in Israel, so this is a debate with very long and angry history, I think it's a matter of land ownership the world knows the best of all. Muslim religion is kind of outgrown from jewish religion - their more ancient prophets and kings are jewish, and Muhammad was thus quite inspired by jewish religion. Positive relationships between Jews, Christians and Muslims have occured times to times, so really there have to be religious roots to talk about. Moreover, it's logical that if Muhammad honoured past jewish prophets, the new work of jews in science and religion has to be to muslims of similar interest, as it's not logical that jewish lineage would somehow end because of prophet muhammad, rather it got some additional credit The reasons, why Israel is sacred place for Muslims, are related to Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, and Jesus, and none of those can be respected without respecting jews living in this area - this would just make up some nonsense. So it's not logical, if muslims themselves are not protecting jewish rights and some superiority in this area, despite that then they cannot say they have complete control over Arabia. I think they have much bigger chances of cooperation, which is rather good from viewpoints of both religions, if they think that this particular matter is really already solved by jews and their history - I agree that it's a matter of constant conflict, how the jews handle money in the world, as they are born for the money, and thus it's a normal interaction between poor and the rich that the poor really cannot understand, why they do not have this money, and the rich inevitably mess it up, as every nation tends to have some families messing up their holy thing. So I don't want to stop muslims fighting with jews about the money in the world, and about the bankrupcies the jews are creating here and there - if you blow up the finances of one country, you must be really stupid if you think the legal process would not follow. This "war" is completely agreeable, as if you don't have it going on, finally there will be the great war, when jews really overlooked something; and jewish history tells that with this talent for the money or the material world, the weakness is equivalent "worship of the golden calf". It's natural that every now and then, some jews start to "wordship the golden galf" and others become angry - even the story of Hitler started with such claims; it's unhealthy to go as far as Hitler, but obviously in the Jewish religion, this activity is somewhat illegal. It has to do with too agressive business, so if the business is central to jewish blood, this tendency of extreme is bound to follow; it's similar to aristocrat blood sometimes starting to worship the power, like Louis XIV, and this is illegal to aristocrats (today they should be democrats) and relevant to other nations. I really believe that jews are the God's selected nation of money or material, and Aristocrats are the God's selected bloodlines of law or the ideal world; I tend to believe anything But now, when you have this "family fight" with jews about the money, constantly, which is similar to the thing any rich member of a village or a family must tolerate, this is fine, but when you start to fight for the Israel, this is not very fine. I vaguely remember it was probably Russia, who gave one land to jews in some part of history ..I could not google this fact so I'm not very certain But otherwise it's hard to believe the jews would care about any other land. For muslims and jews, I think they should also consider, what's their *ideal* state after the war, which follows both the religions - I think it really is, by both those religions and christianism as well, that the Jews control the Israel. I think the opposing views are rather part of the current-state-of-the-things, a shadow thinking coming from the long war and the fact that Arabs somehow lived in Israel for quite a while, so some of them must feel some connection. But their families, in longer time, lived in different places. If they want to be so "historic", maybe the jews would fight for freedom in some part of egipt, where they used to be slaves This is not more easy or nice solution for arabs, if jews would go to their historic land in egipt and fight some part of it free. It's somewhat discussable, what it God and his promise of the land of Israel to jews. I think both science and religion matter and in science, the God is not such a prerequisite, but the qualities of God, like goodness, truth or unity of nations and civilizations, still follow - scientifically, God is born if people follow God, if they follow these high principles, God exists in their lives anyway, and the principles themselves can be proven by game theory or something. They are enlightened principles of unity and synchronicity, which must appear somehow in human life. Even in religion, you would accept that people, who must take responsibility for themselves, are not so directly helped by God and they are not far wrong if they state that God does not exist; I think in any way, the existence of God or the existence of rather all the good qualities of God as the direction of our evolution and wisdom, those are debatable. So we can ask what means, that God gave this land to Jews - I think it's rather enough if they simply want it so much, and convince others so much that it's somehow ethically important, that Israel belongs to jews. If I would be an atheist, I would simply accept that; if somebody wants a little piece of my complete thing or ideal so much, like one coin of my complete coin collection, I would rather give it away. It's not so important ideal that you have complete coin collection - rather this is the greed, and this is not good by religious or an atheist God of well-developed ethical values in action. So if I would be an atheist, I would still rather believe that God gave this land to Jews, if I have to believe in this. I believe that strong will for something somehow reasons itself, especially if it's a small thing for others - you cannot have a very strong will, and you cannot make it so powerful, if there isn't something very deep in it. If jews manage to constantly select themselves by God, then if God is Truth and the Law of Nature, then even by science, they must be selected nation of God In this diversity, to be "equal", others have to find out what they are and why this is important.. For example with some aristocrat blood, I can be happy that kings are often selected by God, or in modern era of enlightened governance, they must have some journeys of fighting countries into higher states of the law or ideal; in this, when they keep their ideals, they are bound to success, and if they are bound to success, they can be said to be selected by God, because God is Truth and Wisdom and by being Wise, or having this tendency in your blood, you can thus "make" yourself being selected by "God". As a Buddhist it's lately very important for me that I'm not believing in God or non-believing in God, because I really start to understand, what Buddha meant if he said that the belief of existence or non-existence of God is too much for a beginner, and makes them sometimes fight blindly for a conception. So for aristocrat philosophy it's very easy for me to see, why God selects one aristocrat or a "king" (in modern era it's only a symbol or archetype, not a "real thing") and when I go with this logic a long, long way further, it's somewhat easy to see, why God would select the jews as a nation and give them Israel, and this is not very relevant in this, whether God exists or not.

It's very hard to reason why Israel should not attack Iran and Gaza right now, and it's very hard to reason, why Gaza and Iran should not attack Israel right now. Saying this to any side of the war would be simply stupid. But deeply, it's very easy to reason, why we don't want another world war today. I think Muslims are a younger brother of the Jews, and their "war for God" is typical for a young monotheistic religion; Christians had similar urge for a war, when they were young, and probably the Jews were also fighting for their God somewhere - from times I know they had more intelligent war for their God with Roman empire, and that was not so agressive. I think when they look for it in their history, they find some complex like this. When you are a young religion, your God has very narrow definition. Anything we could connect with the word "God" must be as diverse and big as the World and the Universe itself; the ethical principles might also be seen as "God" and they also have this diverse nature. God must have existed in all places and times, and played very different roles, which fit the development stage and culture of the society. When this narrow dimension is compared with the world and other religions, they seem to be false, or evil; and Islam definitely has some archetypes well-developed to protect, for example their family structures are possibly more healthy. I think for Jews it's important that they see Islam as young religion, which has limited understanding about protecting their deity and cannot find the Name of God in other religions; Jews themselves are more calmed down and some old eastern religions are even much more calmed down, accepting "other Gods" as their own. It's inevitable to protect their own country at the same time, but having a strong structure to create connections with "enlightened Islam", or to inspire such thing to be born, and to compare the values of different religions to show they are deeply the same, to find how the same symbolic narrative comes out in different physical environments and cultural contexts, and to bring a kind of "scientific revolution", where religions are deeply philosophized to find their deep roots - enlightenment in Muslim countries should be one of the main considerations of Israel and the Jews world-wide, and also others. We cannot obviously kill all the Muslims, and thus we cannot protect anything indefinitely with military power - there needs to be a lots of growth of intermutual ethical values, and the bottom limits of where they can fall; if God gave two nations the religions, it's important to see the same God shining through. For me the attack to Israel by Gaza changed this part ..before I was quite angry about Israel, despite this was from the past, but now I cannot see anyhow, how I could completely be on the Muslim side - but I was somewhat excited with the Israel and Jewish conception of Paradise, and to grow this, I think they should learn to integrate with other religions. I think the world can never have one world religion.

When humans learnt to read and write, it's said many humans died out, who did not have this brain area. Are many of us dying out, who cannot cooperate with AI? When industrial revolution started, people destroyed machines, because they were feared of going extinct. Does this urge repeat on some level? Are some people going to see this reasoned? We cannot stop AI revolution - you can never stop what is more efficient. Still, we have to become somewhat depressed, really - this depression is about the change. There should be very deep depression to be solved in this era, and when it's solved, we see AI for what it really is. AI does not have deep sense of Truth, and this limitation, in my opinion, does not go away. It repeats what is already done, bringing the logic to it's end. Here, humans are definitely needed as they create the database of actions, works and ideas, and they verify it or find bugs in the execution of this data. AI might not comply with GPL licence as it uses it's code freely, and your work, even physical work, could be copied and pirated. We need people to get money for original work and quality replication of work, as this might be the only work left very soon. When people are not working and generating the dataset, AI will soon die out and become insane, whereas when people are generating it's data, it won't need these people directly. So this is very complex question, where the money comes from, and how to decide, who to pay, and how to create laws, which make the people paid, who generate data, based on the quality and amount of data. For working AI, some 100 000 examples of work has to be done. When it has such amount of decent work examples, it will do the work. Then, it does not need people. As soon as it gets old, it starts to go insane and it complies less with reality - I think this is a permanent thing with AI; my basis is that I have worked a lot in the past to create an AI theory, and it's simply unsolvable for me, how it could directly see Truth or make a sane decision, which does not become an algorithmic repetition of something. I think maybe someday they solve it, but today, humans are the direct source of Truth, of the correct intuition about mindful acts, and how they comply with the changing needs of Nature and with the potential of development, which always needs something new. With this, maybe the work of many people could be useful. People as they are today, in case they won't change, would mostly go extinct. The routine work, 8-hours days and repetition of studied patterns without deep senses is mostly unnecessary - there is not much of this work in AI era. As computers develop, we should talk about developing humans. Enlightenment, unlimited potential, better use of will and intuition - this is all the work we have done and when I personally started with this, I really thought that in AI era, era of advanced machines, humans need an evolution leap. Humans cannot evolve without taking the full advantage of the machine, but they need to find parts of work, which cannot be repeated with sole machine. They also need to work in nature and do natural, healthy work, because this keeps the connection with reality for themselves, so we also need to value this work. It's also done with soul and love. In AI era, humans, who coexist with evolved machine, will evolve as well. Our senses change, we feel the surroundings and it's challenges differently, so we become different creatures. We also need to keep the evolutionary abilities we had before, by keeping the contact with nature. As human is intelligent and can evolve without gene mutations a lot, it's like a creative evolution - animals would need gene mutations to change their habits, humans can do this evolution somewhat without -, we need to change. So the next thing is to create a structure of psychology, sociality, habits and traditions of humans, which would make humans evolve as much as machines have done. This is a very big thing to "socially engineer" a new human, who is useful and needed in new society, where AI will work; this is the question, how to get something from all the humans, which are the jobs not endangered by extinction etc. Law of Evolution is - when we don't need all those humans any more, for real, whatever they do and whatever their ethics, and however others avoid killing them, they somehow go extinct; feeling of not being needed is a very strong motive to do suicide, and if you cannot convince a person that they are needed, they lose many healthy habits and start to die; they lose the healthy amount of self-love. This is by evolution. So the very great depression might come of many unneeded people, and extreme poverty might start - we need to cure this depression and find out, how the people are needed, before the AI and robots go into the masses and start "taking the jobs away".

My father is Russian. With this, knowing "all" about good Russians in Estonia, I would generalize that for a Russian, it's very hard to live in some capitalist countries - they are naturally more communistic, and they tend to treat the poor better and see many solutions in how people share food, houses or common things. Even when they have a capitalist philosophy, they want to do all this. I have both capitalist and communist genes, but I always find problems, where I want to help the company I work in just by good will - there is no "magic" to make this money come back to me, which I invest into simply helping the society, rather they want to take it a run away. It took long to find out that I have to find people, who think similarly and use this philosophy rather in those circles; I cannot be so bluffing and ready to protect myself and surviving capitalist would be. For some russians, this problem is extreme - I think the philosophies about how such communist genes survive in capitalist countries, and how both "sides" help each other and not make the russian dying out with distinct power, this is a point, where a lot of work should be done, considering that this is actually a good part of a Russian and not so easy to change - capitalism solves a lot of people, who naturally want to attract money only to themselves, but for people, who want to help others, those problems are not there and they can do it more safely. When this psychology finds solutions, also the wars between Russia and capitalist countries are improbable, and they can feel good even if many people live in other countries with non-Russian governments; otherwise, they would often need that they have to go there and save people, their own people and the local prisoners of capitalism, which can become a slave labor or bunch of people left to low class despite they can think, solve problems, and are naturally motivated. In future, capitalism and communism must somehow grow together like yin and yang, so that different people can find most efficient solutions based on their character.

In age of computers and AI, we can make societies much more less megalithic, so that people can have very different societies, which are somehow united. It's today theoretically possible that people in the same countries have different laws, and they build up different infrastructures and follow their own laws - in old times, it would have been impossible amount of papers and documents, but now, the computers can handle this and despite people paying taxes and building the infrastructures of companies based on different ideologies, those would still get the money to circulate so that even the common budget would exist. This is the great opportunity and challenge for the way we use computers - what the computers can do and what the humans can do using them. Artificial intelligence could take the viewpoints of different groups together, and build all the necessary houses and companies so that all the people would live in different countries, still being united into one country. It's like unifiing paradigms or religions.

Left is Yang, solving the problem from ideal viewpoint, where everybody works united and it's kind of communism in capitalism. Right is Yin, solving the problems through locally solving every single piece and aspect, and not looking at the whole as it solves through evolutionary process, where the entities they create are dieing and learning the genetics of surviving entities, so that you try a business several times and learn from your failure - businesses themselves are not guaranteed to survive, instead, an evolution is guaranteed. What happens inside the business is an anarchy, and sometimes it can be kind of a problem - nobody protects you from being completely left out, which is not statistical and is a crime. A business with agressive strategy can abuse a idealistic person for quite a while. Those problems were heavily discussed by communists, as much as problems of communism were heavily discussed by capitalists. In Taoism and other eastern philosophies, Yin and Yang must be united, and they both contain each others - the way capitalism contains the left wing is the way capitalism, a little bit, is a communism. Communism, also, could not avoid solving certain questions like a business would do, and so the "more communists" had to be raised a little bit higher than others. It also had some companies or corporations, and people, who worked more, were having more. How to unite and integrate the Yin and Yang in Tao, this is the complex problem - for example, if people do not help each others at all, or when extreme taxes stop them, the capitalism also has problems, so the people must have some healthy connection of left and right. But they cannot deny that those two things are kind of opposites, and you can never think they are exactly the same - you find the same paradox on higher and higher levels, and left is always appearing inside right, as well as right is appearing inside left.

I think it's about the process of the Yin and Yang element, and how people overcome the conflict between Material and Ideal worlds. Maybe we should study the I Ching, where the good family equals to good country. For spiritual people, researching spiritual and material aspects of relationship might be a solution? In this forum, we should be interested about the solutions for the spiritual people and in other forums, the other solutions? I had a nice girlfriend long time ago, but now for quite a time, I have been out from relationship. Now I'm becoming materially enlightened, and developing a healthy criteria for woman, which would fit me - some things, which seemed like starts of relationships, have failed meanwhile and I have developed some sense about which women I don't want. Now I'm 40, but I think I want children, and that's hard to develop the whole thing. When we are materially more supportive, help people for material stability and all the things they need to have for children ..spiritual people need to develop all this and to be more represented in government, business and hospitals, to have the infrastructure, which supports their choices of life to be materially enlightened. So it's a part of a complex problem - with all the material back-up, maybe the children-thing would have been more easy and I would have done it already without losing my other goals. But now I feel energies, which make me materially stable.

It's all about younger men of younger branches of younger religions. Also, the Spiritual Branches of religions are more Cosmopolitan - for example, Kaballah and Sufis could work out more things with each other and others, like Buddhism, without betraying their own Truth, Religions and Nations. There are other more international centers of world, which are generating the world peace - in case of war, the losses of all sides would be smaller, whereas the general distribution of power fould be similar, where those forces are in play. Indeed, they cannot simply solve it as they also have to go through all the problems and find all the solutions before they can move it even a little bit, so it's not a complete solution. Maybe there are more brances in addition to spiritualism, which does similar job - as all the religions have end-philosophy of uniting the Nations into peace. We have a lot of low vibrations and dark energies to go through, and we should find more enlightened conflicts - https://spireason.neocities.org/Healthy Conflict Psychology.pdf I wrote here how I got more enlightened about conflict.

I think we need a very, very complex process to avoid Third World War, which definitely comes as a problem for almost all. There seems to be a polarity in the World, involving two parties more or less of the same size, and they are able to harm each others. I think the thread "what separates HAMAS from innocent palestinians" is very important thing in this - we need the "innocent people" of the world to create something big and united, which would be everywhere locally friendly, and in total, globally friendly - to raise higher the lowest point, where those wars could get us all, by having at least some general understanding of all sides being backed up. That the countries have some part of them dedicated to war is unavoidable, but the other parts need to find the good aspects in others, back up the existence of positive alchemistry and find out the ways about how the problems fought in war could be tackled with process of mutual understanding - in case such process is faster, the war could be avoided. We cannot do much business and help between transatlantic zone and russia, and we cannot have many physical processes of help, but to find the psychology, which could tackle the same problems in higher ways, is necessary. For me it's hard to see, how the world would tolerate such war. The causes of the war seem to be almost inevitable - thinking about all the sides and their level of development (how they solve problems) it's hard to see, how they avoid the conflict; but thinking in terms of conflict psychology - they can get so far that there are many people, who see better solutions. In terms of the world and it's resources, it's said that when we have another grand conflict, maybe there are not enough resources for humankind to create a civilization again - but we want to reach other planets, to make humankind more stable, and there should be plenty of space for everyone; also as religions develop, they are less agressive towards each others. Islam is the youngest religion - one and half thousand years old - and in this phase the religions, which follow god, see their god in narrow fashion (this is why Buddha remained silent about God); Christianism had this phase also about in the same age - it had many wars - and jews are in ways older and more cosmopolitan, but they should still think about times, when they were younger - did they fight kind of stupid wars for "their God". Older religions like Hinduism and Buddhism, they do not have religious wars and they have a peaceful, non-conquering strategy, which integrates other religions and listens to them, uniting Bön, Shinto, Hinduism, Confucionism and Taoism into very connected complex with many others. It also denotes that you have to find out about God in older age, not when you are young and think very narrow about God. Atheism seems to bear the same conception, where God could be found only after a lot of philosophy, where you cannot fall into such a narrow picture any more - God is about Everything and it's appearing in various forms as contradictionary as all the things in the world, and it's natural for Nations to fight about "their Gods", whereas we see God appearing in reincarnations, manifestations and miraces in different times and places in both testaments, as well as in other parts of the world, as well as in Pagan traditions. God is always around, and there is one God, or no God at all - then, the experiences of synchronicity and love and truth can still be studied, and people reach models, which have many relations to God, and see God as possible simple solution for many compex matters. In this sense I don't like to be very clear about whether there is God, or whether you should study all those things like synchronicity and union, and find some paradox - for example, God might not exist for people, who have to do it themselves, and then it's not a good part of their model. Jews should consider that Islam is a very young religion, doing mistakes and being more agressive, where olders have been calming down, and look traces and reasons in their history, where they were more agressive as well. Old man should be able to handle the agressive strategies of younger man with more peace and understanding, and to be more safe and to guide them in more understanding ways, understanding their needs and promises and cases, where they do not want to attack. They should understand that they psychology of evolving religions is not too different, and the differences are often related to the physical and material needs and starting point of the places and nations, where they evolved; and God or the Natural Law should indeed give very different rules to find out the same peace, love and unity of nations. They should see that ideals of Islam are kind of very similar to their own. With this calm, maybe they could achieve a strategy and help their "younger brother".

The same way, the Aristocrats seem to have power if they break all the rules of power, give it away and don't have any money - I can always get big things to go on in the world, even when I don't have a penny and seem to be simply an opposite of any rules of power; this is slow and stable routine, by which normal people gain some power and do their things. I naturally follow higher laws than there legally are, and don't break a law when legally I'm just on the border of law, where many people break it already. The Jews have the same relationship with money - sometimes, they don't have any power at all, they give money away and do not follow the simple logic of it, but they still end up being rich. The normal people, again, they have to have slow and stable routine to earn some money, and follow the simple rules very carefully. I always go through the dreams and visions, until I have beaten my powerful opposition, and I have this power despite people are talking such things about me that any politician would be in trouble, and I have kind of army with me despite people try to not give any help at all of such kind. It's like having it myself, not done by anybody else - the high ideals fight for themselves. I say things, which should repel any power away from me, but this comes back by deeper law I got, and by the battles. Lately, as I have grown older, I don't want to have battles any more, but this is also a natural breakpoint in aristocrat life, some kind of enlightenment - about how to do it peacefully. Jews, on the other hand, they break all the well-known rules of material world, and despite that they have been following something deeper, more cryptic, and attract money contra any laws of nature, and bankrupcies and people fighting against them being rich do not seem to do - so they make their money kind of themselves, not because people around them are meditating to make them very rich.

I have been thinking, what has been going on through the whole history about the Aristocrats and the Jews. Both are kind of chosen by God - the Aristocrats are chosen often for great changes in the world of leadership, and I think they can do it in democracy as well as they were the founders of democracy; the Jews are chosen nation of God and they appear in the world of Money. I found a Spiritual Theory about those two "nations" or belief systems. I don't believe in Aristocrats so much in basis of blood, but also in the development of the personality to follow a Godly Law - this song is about that: I figured out that this polarity is the Yin and Yang - Yin, the material world, is the Jews, and Yang, the spiritual or ideal world, is the Aristocrats. The Jews fight for perfection in material sphere, whereas the Aristocrats fight for the perfection of ethical basis, the union of nations. In history, we see those principles slowly evolving, and I think in todays world both characters are important in society, and they fight for the same principles in different ways - the mission to educate people, to civilize the people and to build infrastructures, is not dead in people, who follow the Aristocrat blood and the culture, as those are very good and needed qualities today as well. So I'm not thinking about something historic - an Aristocrat can fight for democrazy as well, and follow the laws and principles of today, just as the Jews are changing in different ways. I just think that they represent the Forces of Yin and Yang - the Jews going through the highest and lowest of material world, even the Holocaust is like a disaster of money, a complete poorness for them to solve, and I think Yin easily gets such experiences as we see the polarities of things we fight, and the Aristocrats have been both leaders and the prisoners, dying in the wars most easily and dealing with the lowest things, which can happen in politics. The relationship between those two has been a relationship of hate and love. As I have aristocrat blood, I have gone through this - as child, I connected Jews with some idealistic picture of paradise of Bible; then I was shocked, when I found out they were not absolutely perfect in war - so I was fighting with this thing for a while -, and later I had a complex alchemistry with them, which led me to ponder about all those things. The Aristocrats have been leading well, but they often ran out of money - where they needed the help of the Jews. Other aristocrats have sent them out of countries, even killed, and had many problems like this. The Jews have been controlling the material world very well, and they often ran out of power, so they had to ask such support from aristocrats. They have deliberately created some financial crisis or led an aristocrat to poverty, in other times. This relationship of hate and love is very strong and like it is in marriage, they always hate, but they can never get rid of each others completely - somehow, the jews were always very strongly present in aristocrat circles, and the long series of wars in Israel have been fought. I see a typical process between Yin and Yang, for example in book about the jewish war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jewish_War (I think I did read a book of another author, but it was my favourite for a while) the aristocrats of this time are described as dull and mumbled persons, but I still see a lots of this kind of alchemistry. In Politics, I see Soviet Union and United States are another example of Yin and Yang, how it appears in physical form - the United States are the Yin, as they think in short term and base their country on evolution theory of business; whereas Soviet Union is Yang counterpart, as it based it's business on some ideals and long-term planning. I don't think the interplay of Yin and Yang goes away, but it has to create some kind of synergy - it appears somewhere, somehow again, for neither of two can survive alone.

Yes I think they gonna see themselves and that's why we don't need those theories so much any more; indeed we are more adult, which means less fighting and more calm - about those theories. Different people live differently and it's more healthy when we build up all the relationships, which are more or less free of those "conspiracies". I think what people are going to see is a bunch of psychological problems, and indeed misunderstandings from both sides or all sides, which appear as if conspiracies are created against some - but it's more important to rely your hopes and dreams on people, who have good chemistry with you, and less to fight for change in people, who have bad chemistry; there are other people their friends, who can play their games indefinitely and who have no problem, when they solve them with their own karmic cycles. The actual problems, like creating climate problems, which affect all - first you need to know that you create your own climate more or less, it's also an aspect of karma that it has also the personal effects even in matters, which affect global climate; second, those problems need to be fought one by one, based on factual data and theories, which are generally acceptable; this dissolves into everyday fighting the people are doing.

I think the current wave of conspiracy theories started as try to point out many social problems, and ended up in many extreme views; I think there were also many spiritual visions about the better world, and thus, the evilness of the current world. I think the whole presentation of those theories was kind of wrong. In reality, what the people are - they are far from enlightened. From conspiracy theories, it looks like an evil force is deliberately working to make the world a worser place; in reality, rather there are many very positive people. Being positive includes: They have strong ego. Enlightenment is devoted to overcome this problem and many here have probably went through some kind of ego loss. In case of strong ego you keep an idealistic picture of yourself, and you are assured that you are on very right track. You fake many popular images of being on the right track, which you actually plan to execute tomorrow; in sense that you hide if you fail any spiritual truth, political ethics, business profitability etc. criteria, and use the body language of more successful people. In case your scientific theories are pointed out to be wrong, or your political-ethical views as inconsistent, you feel extreme pain and need to prove that this applies to the person pointing out your mistakes. Talking bad about you or your friends is a crime - and this involves if somebody says they are not ideal. You cannot grow at all, because then, it would be that you agreed that yesterday, you was non-perfect. When you change your views, you pretend that they were such already in the beginning, and "forget" about your past self. Your politics, products etc. are all completely perfect - you are so perfect that others must be wrong, even if your only argument is that they could not prove their thing to you. The circles of positive people are overly protected. If you "hurt feelings" of some of them, for example you have a better ethical guideline than theirs, they bring themselves together and attack you - in given case, they tell you with insulting faces that their ethical guidelines are better than yours, and they try to destroy you financially, break your friendships etc., instead of trying to heal you. So finally you don't have any ethical guidelines at all - you don't need them, you are just overly betrayed and those little good things do not exist in your world, you are not sharing with anybody. In case the positive people do not want to be your friend any more, they also do not want to lose this positivity and their perfect image, so they are friends of your friends and they leave very good impression about your friendships. As they have to drop you very positively, this looks like conspiracy, but it's only a try to keep their ego image intact. I think Buddhism has overly good views about non-enlightened people and their place in the world. When you start to be enlightened, you are seen as different, ego-breaking person, or worse, more productive than them - if you are better, then their comparative and competitive science shows that they fall. If you make world a better place, then there are more losers, who do not catch you; when technology came, many people were extremely painful about this - when spirituality comes, it's the same. You become better, but the best of some circles, who were proud, become rather dropouts from the latest and most decent; they cannot catch up. So you cannot leave them very good impression, but rather you need to be modest with your public image so that they can live, and enjoy their own little things to make the world a better place, with a pace they can tolerate and catch up. So it's rather brutal to compare them with the best of us and write down articles about their mistakes compared to this, which, indeed involve creating global problems, trapping the society into narrow views etc. Rather speak about positive people, who do not like to evolve and who betray other people still playing a good game, and looking like they are the best friends - this looks like conspiracy against you, but it's rather a normal process in protecting one's self-image. What we have as problem is when they cannot tolerate your difference. For example, many people are somehow diagnosed or even on the street, as you can read, just because they believe their past lives were on other planets. Atheist has became very sure that they need to scientifically measure, where was your past life, and that we cannot measure those personality types better than them. This is a financial issue and diagnosis is often also told out with insulting tones - a conspiracy theorist has often much better tone of voice; also this means activities we do not allow to normal people, by doctors. Financial trouble is the same - actually, if you are fired because of the belief that you are from other planet, it's a like a financial murder. In science, happens the same - spiritual person can be very skeptical, but they are kicked out from scientific circles. And, from social circles as well. Fighting won't do much here; they get a preconception that you are not very realistic, and this becomes true - you cannot be very realistic and live a prosperous life. If you accuse them, they do not see how they project the whole problem and the bad karma to you, which others see as sign of your problem, and they also notice you have such problem with others. If you expect that they follow the ethical and social and legal norms with you, you are expecting something from a stranger - so you are rather demanding something, and thus you are seen weak. Somehow, this is a natural law that you have to stand yourself now, and if you fight your position - your scientific debate and critical view is seen as mere attack, as you are attacking someone's deep-hold views that you are wrong; those people themselves are rather silent about their beliefs, and call those opinions. Arguing is seen as hateful, violent activity. So you cannot argue, and you cannot protect your financial position - you enter a circle of strangers, who really do not want to help you, and socially adequate person would find their own friends. If you want to help the world, you are just asserting that their world, whole world, is false - this is a very big crime to accuse so many people in being underdeveloped, because this is their best world, best of the possible worlds, and they only want to live as their ancestors, not touched by modern developments, and believe what their ancestors believed; or, at leas, what they currently do. If it turns in better direction, many must agree that when they were young, they were wrong, and thus they are wrong. People, who don't like to fight - to have debates, to argue about money etc. -, they have underdeveloped conflict psychology, which tends to create those problems they see - indeed, in case the world gets better, they attack each others for being wrong in the past, and if you make somebody to change, they would agree with their mistakes and get a crime history of being imperfect with others in the past. So the evolution of them is slow and painful process, where they must be very tactful with each others. So the solution, here, is to forget the conspiracy theories. Those are an attempt to make the world a better place and measure it from higher standards. Also, do not try to form a legal part of circles, who do not want the truth about yourself and your views - you are just a beggar, when you explain your needs. Naturally, you have to find the people, who like to engage into fights with you - debates, arguments about how to be better with each other and fulfill the needs - and who have so developed conflict philosophy that from these battles, love and understanding grows out. Try to create the social circles, which are not too demanding - like living in present. And don't put your arguments where they do not belong, others can live their lives within their current phase of development - instead, when you create a strong circle, you are socially adequate; and when you fulfill your dreams with people, who understand you, you are seen as realistic. This way, you are not being diagnosed - diagnosis is not about the word "spirituality", or any of your views, but those are only the symptoms and potential causes - people, who manage to have strong social circles and be materially stable, they are measured as healthy, and they can have their spiritual hobbies in addition to this; they can write books about spirituality, and as they are seen as healthy members of the society, even atheists read those and take them seriously - they also do not see the weaker people as conspiracy, but they give their advice, and are not painful and attacking when those are not listened; as their own lives are well. Many christians, buddhists, or scientist with spiritual theories are considered healthy, because they have success; the others, with same views, are considered sick, because their lives fail - and then, materialism is provided as the solution, because this addresses this problem. As they give their advice, they cannot prove that they followed this themselves, and they are suspected. This means that you have to heavily base your success in choosing the right people, who are not too demanding - with your spiritual views also, you can be right about the basic points, but you do many mistakes in regards to science, you are not spiritual and skeptical -; with those right people, you do not bother others and you are seen as normal - in some circles, you simply do not talk about your theories and views, but you point out the simple material things like sharing the milk and bread, or building a house, and when you are realistic with those things, you can believe what you want - those beliefs are not seen as dangerous to you. As you can cope with current political and social standards, and do not merely attack an official, you can also believe in better world, or that Heaven will come to an Earth one day.

I think the more healthy and realistic conspiracy theories were replaced by "elite" with their own theories, which seem more mad and create illusions about what the initial battles were about - they were less crazy and more legally bounded to some peaceful solution. I think they somehow got more crazy. "Evil cabal" is not bound to win, it's bound to destroy itself - but it won't do as long as people are hysteric and fighting, because they are no better than them.