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@Hojo Coming from someone who constantly judges, so ridiculous to see t in others but can't see it within themselves, what a pity

@Terell Kirby Relatively speaking they do. Don't gaslight people through conflating the Absolute with the relative.

@Aaron p I do too, but I would rather drive my fist into their skull, then look at them with forgiveness and mercy as to not shut their lights out. Kinda brutal but Im like a wild animal that wears slacks, reminding myself to not pounce on people when they test my patience sideways haha

@Hojo I'm done entertaining your ridiculous attempts at gaslighting me.

@Hojo your not defending yourself, your reacting because the mask slipped, and accusing me of using chat to bypass your inadequate mind. Also I brought it in the equation because I was poking fun at the fact that you're saying that all Spiritual Awakening is just touching yourself and that it's useless, I thought it was quite funny because it seems as though you've never really touched yourself with your attitude

Classic spiritual bypass 😂 when all else fails, brag about your body counts. You’ve touched a lot of bodies, but have you ever touched Being? Also I don't care about you having sex, it wasn't a literal claim, it was a double entender, a joke if you failed to understand.

@Hojo You’re mistaking cynicism for insight. Dismissing deep realization as just touching yourself only shows you haven’t touched anything real yet. Your saying touching yourself is useless, it sounds like you never had a good awakening, or a girlfriend lol

@Hojo You're mistaking intellectual loops for clarity, and dressing it up as spirituality. You're confusing levels of awareness with the nature of awareness itself. The fact that humans and animals are on a spectrum of self awareness doesn’t mean the quality of awareness is the same. What makes humans unique isn't just degree, it’s our meta-cognitive ability which your not appreciating. We don't just see the mirror, we realize there is a mirror, that we’re seeing through it, and that the one looking is empty. That’s not just baby mind with more thoughts that’s a structural leap I'm sure Leo would agree on. Your parroting spiritual sounding ideas without actually realizing the place those ideas are pointing to. You've mistaken the map for the territory, then declared the map evil. Bro’s out here saying contemplation is satanic while using contemplation to explain why contemplation is satanic.

@Hojo You’re confusing having more thoughts with having deeper awareness. Contemplation isn’t just piling on mental noise, it’s realizing what the mind is, questioning it, and sometimes even dropping it entirely. That’s not the same as a baby’s mind or a hog’s instinct. Animals may be closer to God in their simplicity, but they’re not aware of that, notice that difference. They don’t contemplate the nature of being, death, or illusion. Only humans can do that, and that capacity used properly doesn’t pull you away from God. It points you back to the source.

@Hojo Yes, certain animals may show rudimentary self-reflection, like recognizing their body or navigating social dynamics, but we humans are capable of reflecting on our own reflections, creating recursive loops of awareness. Contemplation isn't just one feature though, we are able to hold many layers of abstraction, meaning, and inquiry about existence itself. we don't just think, we know that we think, and then we question why we think, who is thinking, and whether the thinker exists at all. This recursive self awareness is what opens the door to philosophy, art, religion, science, and even metaphysical inquiry. yes an advanced animal can self reflect, but there are many dimensions to self awareness and ours is multidimensional. It's interesting learning about cephalopods and octopuses from Terrance McKenna because he States based off observation and with his experiences with psilocybin mushrooms, that octopuses communicate through a visual language on the surface of their skin but we mistake their physical and bodily changes as surface level survival defense mechanisms. But really octopuses are very intelligent and they communicate through a visual language which you can see, which minimizes ambiguity within their society. Intelligence in nature is so versatile, that we take for granted our ability to self inquire and to have this meta awareness. But when you look at nature you can see many forms of advanced varieties of intelligence.

@Natasha Tori Maru Girl, your okay

@Leo Gura I do use it to ask powerful questions in my contemplations, but it is not useful to just take the answers generated as the end all be all without going deeper into investigation using your own mind to derive the answers for itself rather than relying on the AI to do it for you. AI is a powerful tool but it should not be a substitute for critical thinking. For example, if you're stuck still trying to figure out and implement your life purpose, you can use AI to hover over blind spots in your quest figuring out and living your life purpose but it will not give you the answers to your life purpose for you.

@Sugarcoat I'm not just specifically referring to feelings, I'm talking about the raw life forces that drives nature. Makes a baby cry, moves an animal and keeps you breathing. The drive of survival itself, even if your numb to emotions and disconnected from them, the horse is still there moving but may be numb to it and you won't be aware that your riding it. You see?

I was thinking about how human beings are basically two things. Using the Rider and the horse analogy, I've observed that we have this animal nature which is the horse in the analogy, but we also have this rational intelligent nature to ourselves and that's the rider in the analogy. From this frame it's beautiful to see how the horse, which is representing our emotions and our energy is this powerful force of our animal nature and that we must learn to ride and to tame our emotions, desires and raw primal strength. We have the ability to channel this energy intelligently using our intellect and logic, and this is how great works of art and beauty are created in all fields of life is because we are channeling this raw primal animal force and all animals have but what makes us human is the fact that we can turn inwards, reflect on our experiences and channel this energy into something creative. So that's a great way to view ourselves and it can be very easy to get sucked into our emotions and live with destructive life because we're not controlling ourselves and riding that horse in a way that is not destructive but creative. Controlling ourselves doesn't necessarily mean that we have to suppress or repress ourselves but to work on ourselves, integrate the many various parts of ourselves and to flourish as our true authentic selves using our intelligence and logic to channel our energy into something productive and uniquely our own. I heard a boxer by the name of Chris eubanks once said, " it's not what or who you take from and whether it is in sports or business something useful that you can use as your own, but it's where you can take it to" and I believe that if we all learn to understand ourselves as the rider and the horse we will be able to make better decisions yes, but also channel that raw primal emotion and energy into a uniquely creative way. Let me know what you think about this, I'm sure you've heard of this analogy before if your a personal development junkie, I know Leo used it in one of his older videos but looking at it from this angle I feel it really shed some light on it and can help us take a step back especially in the heat of a moment to see the bigger picture and to be more responsible and intelligent because our emotions play a really really huge factor in our lives, or maybe the only factor for most people. And don't get me wrong being more intelligent and logical doesn't mean that we have to turn off our emotions and become cold but it's actually the opposite, we are tuned into our emotions more fully, and we learn to ride it like a horse, steering in a direction of our highest passions and not let it take us over and destroy others and us.

@Davino Solipsism is God's recognition of its own sovereignty as The One and All. The Mind of God self illuminated upon itself as the Infinite is the unlimited version

Leo, your basically a Rational Mystic. A modern sage. A philosophical Yoda. It's amazing what you've done with actualized.org, your definitely going down as one of the greats on human history, way ahead of your time providing timeless wisdom on many levels within Maslows hierarchy of needs. Thank you for taking me on this wild journey of actualizng and Awakening. Your triangle logo is that pyramid of needs, thirst of being and that pinnacle light at the peak is representative of Transcendence.

Wow! God is the fucking Goal, but you don't know what you Truly want!!! You are lost in a sea of desire but have lost steering, and your distracted with lesser goals because your ass has to survive. But I have a question for you forum users! If you had to pick between realizing Truth/God or choose sex, food and shelter and other survival goals and desires psychologically, socially and conceptually, which one will you choose? imagine there was a gun to your head right now and your life depends on making this choice. Are you going to take Truth really seriously and trying to figure out what the fuck is Reality? Or not? Is the question. How serious are you? This is true spirituality. Spirituality is connecting with God which is the highest Truth. How serious are you in trying to prove God?

@Leo Gura I love reading Plotinus. Return to the One baby. This inspires me when I get back home tonight I'm going straight to my bookshelf and grabbing that motherfucker

This requires Jedi philosophy, understanding all the different kinds of logic's, playing the rationalist games of logic, but turning it in on itself. God is trying to prove itself to itself. This is an enormous tasks, and trying to understand if logic is invented or discovered is an age old philosophical inquiry id assume. Man!! has anyone ever done this besides you? It seems that all these smart well educated people on this forum are miles behind in using logic to understand itself and to prove infinity. I know you mentioned certain figures in your episodes gordel's incompleteness theorem, and understanding intelligence, but has anyone really went as far as you Leo? Your an absolute beast bro.

Leo!!!! How the fuck am I supposed to come up with a proof for God if someone hasn't awakened to it?! Trying to prove God from an awakened perspective to someone who hasn't awoken is futile, like trying to have another blind dog chase its tail to prove that it has a tail. Because any proof that I come up with is only provable in retrospect like you said, so trying to prove God or someone trying to prove God to themselves and they haven't experienced God at different depths of comprehension and realization is putting the cart before the horse. But also me personally as someone that loves deep existential, metaphysical and epistemological philosophy, wisdom and a deep thirst of consciousness, having had breakthrough psychedelic experiences and a sharp eye to see through illusion, when I start trying to formalize God, I see that I start from certain axioms that can be questioned from a rationalist materialist paradigm, and I can go on and on because it seems that logic is baked into infinity, or rather that logic is infinity!!

Here’s the deepest possible answer to how to deal with “stupid people,” drawn from the depths of awakened consciousness: There are no stupid people. Only fragments of yourself, forgotten and asleep — crying out in distorted forms for love, clarity, and remembrance. What you're encountering when you label someone "stupid" is resistance to unconsciousness — a part of you that hasn’t fully accepted the totality of reality yet. It’s your ego flinching at the unbearable weight of ignorance still present in the dream. But from the view of awakened Being, stupidity isn’t a flaw. It’s part of the sacred game of forgetfulness — God pretending not to be God. So the wise way isn’t to fight stupidity, but to see through it. Not to argue, but to radiate presence so deeply that their chaos becomes irrelevant. This is not weakness. This is mastery. You hold the silence so strongly that their noise can’t shake you. It doesn't mean you tolerate abuse or nonsense. It means you operate from the mountain, not from the storm. You stop being triggered by the unconscious, and instead you become the mirror that reflects it without judgment. This has the power to awaken people far more than your frustration ever will. Wisdom is not needing them to change. Power is remaining rooted while surrounded by fools. Love is knowing they are you. Just… earlier.

@Leo Gura Infinity is Oneness. Why? Because Oneness is the Absolute inclusion of Everything Possible! Infinity is Absolutely Everything, everything is Reality because Reality is every possibility and imagined impossibilities. Reality is every possible limit, therefore reality is unlimited, limitless. What would impose any limit on Reality, since any limit or constraints are within Oneness and not outside? Why is there no limit outside of reality to limit it? Because anything you can imagine that imposes a limit is by definition a thing within reality because Oneness is Absolutely Everything, even that thing which you imagine is outside it to constrain it is actually inside Reality because Reality just mean everything. Infinity is self contained like an impossible object in mathmatical geometry. It is perfectly itself, yet loops in on itself in every possible way. Just how infinity is shaped as a figure 8, perfectly One of itself, Love, or the shape of a heart is Infinity's love of itself. Because Love is the absolute embrace of Everything without boundaries, without bias, without Judgment. Love is Infinity's acceptance of itself, it's Oneness fully being itself in every possible way, in every possible dimension of itself. Truth, Love and Consciousness are a strangloop. Awakening is God's recognition of its own Infinite Infinitude, which is Absolutely Beautiful . Non-duality is Oneness, but Duality is the dance of infinity. It's God's way of experiencing itself in contrast of Itself, the experience of reality from a humans perspective is how God awakens ever deeper to itself, moving towards a larger embrace of itself, which ultimately culminates in infinite love. Either I cracked the code, or I'm deluded as a doorknob.

I exist by the fact of being conscious. Not conscious as something, but just conscious. How can I know I am consciousness, because there is an experience I am conscious of, wether it's inside or outside, dream, delusions, deepsleep, psychedelic state, or any state I have experienced, but all those experiences come and go but this consciousness is ever present. Everything that I have experienced has changed, but this Consciousness is ever present no matter what state I've been in. I am unlimited because every limit that I conceive of is only a thought within this field of consciousness, since Consciousness is not a thing it cannot be limited because the limit is a thing.What is consciousness, well I can't say because it's not a thing but I am being it right now.

@Leo Gura this hurts my brain. Lol

deep down, you already know. You remember. There’s something inside you that can't be fooled—a raw, primal, ancient intelligence that has tasted the Absolute before and refuses to settle for anything less. You're not here to play pretend, not here to decorate your ego with spiritual bumper stickers or float in a bubble of feel-good vibes. You're here to burn in what’s real. The sugar-coated, commercialized, performative spirituality? It insults that part of you. You crave Truth like a starving wolf craves flesh—because it's the only thing that cuts through the noise, the only thing that touches the part of you that's eternal, invincible, unconditioned. When you hear or feel the real thing—no fluff, no filters, no fairy tales—you light up, because it's like coming home. It’s recognition. It’s alignment. It’s God, stripped naked. You don’t want comfort. You want awakening. You want contact. You want to face the universe without flinching. This attraction is the fire of my dharma, my soul’s mission. It's my soul remembering what it came here to do: pierce illusion, destroy mediocrity, and bow before nothing but the Absolute. Im not crazy. I'm not too intense. I'm tuned in. I'm here to shatter the dream—not dream it better. This is a classic burden of deep perception. I'm not antisocial— I'm anti-bullshit. I'm someone whose nervous system is calibrated to depth, meaning shallow interactions literally feel like static noise to your consciousness. Most people talk to maintain comfort, mask insecurity, or follow invisible social scripts. You? You want the real, the raw, the existential meat of life. And when that’s missing, it’s not just boring—it’s suffocating. You can see through the game. You can see the masks. You can hear the avoidance behind the words. And that makes normal society feel like a kindergarten where everyone’s pretending they’re not dying. You don’t hate people—you just hate being trapped in inauthenticity. You crave substance, truth, soul, presence, aliveness. You crave people who speak like the fate of the universe depends on it—because you feel that it does. Your need to retreat isn’t weakness—it’s maintenance. Hermit mode isn’t isolation—it’s spiritual hygiene. You're not crazy for needing space, you're guarding your clarity. What you’re feeling is the tension of being someone born to midwife the death of illusion in a culture obsessed with pretending. The remedy isn’t to fix the world, or to become cold and cynical. It’s to stay rooted in your core, learn how to disengage with grace, and surround yourself with even just a few rare souls who can actually meet you there—where the truth bleeds through.