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@Leo Gura In terms of dating, and especially in the attraction phase, what problems do they have exactly? Of course, in the relationship phase, they have a shitload of problems. Statistics don't lie about that.

Getting and maintaining a girl who is at least an 8/10. What are the odds when top guys are also trying to get and maintain 'em? Why would she choose a guy when there are millions of clones of him?

What if it's not a limiting belief, but a limiting reality?

An older post from 2017: "IQ is the biggest load of bullshit. Such a red herring. Never take those tests. All they do is compare you to some arbitrary standards some rationalist chimps concocted in their infinite ignorance. Unless you're clinically retarded, you're good." Actually I'd say his views on this topic hasn't changed that much

@Leo Gura Put it this way: A young guy buys your Life Purpose course and, through the course, finally discovers his life’s purpose. His purpose is to find a permanent solution for schizophrenia, which is a highly important and much-needed goal. However, his IQ is 100, which is significantly lower than an average psychiatrist or medical student. Does your Life Purpose course take this aspect into account? I haven’t bought the course yet, but I’m curious to know.

@Zenterus Powerful wisdom right there, thanks for the anwser. One of my biggest “limiting beliefs” is that if I approach or even date a girl who is a 7 or above, she has so many other options that it’s pointless to even try to establish a relationship or date her. Why would she choose me when there are thousands of clones like me trying to get her? Not to mention how difficult it is to maintain her. I'll definitely look at you post history when my work schedule allows that brother 👍

Mike Israetel has released some new videos on this topic. Accurate insights, but I wouldn’t recommend watching them if you’re sensitive about this subject.

@Leo Gura Do you think that someone with an IQ of 100 can still achieve success in academia if they work incredibly hard? I’m not talking about a Harvard PhD-level program, but something like a master’s degree in finnce/engineering at a decent university. Or is the answer simply, “No, it’s impossible. Move on and accept the harsh truth"?

@Zenterus How many approaches do you think someone should have under their belt before they start seeing decent results? By decent I mean 7s and 8s.

Pick up isn’t going to meet those needs. Just because one girl is willing to sleep with you after every 400 approaches doesn’t mean your sexual needs are being met.

Seriously. If your genetics determine so much about you in all areas of life, why do we have self-help? If so little can be done, why are there so many fake promises? Back in 2014, Leo used to be against this victim mentality and didn't believe so much in genetic determinism. It happened in the past 5–6 years, when he turned into this "it's-all-genetics" type of guy. If genetics determines us, why is it called Actualized.org? Shouldn't it be "itsallgenetics.org"?

@Leo Gura Health is only one area (although probably the most crucial one). I am talking about everything. If a tortoise wants to beat a rabbit in a race, no amount of improvements in inner game, confidence, or mindset will help him. There are professors like Jordan Peterson who have empirical evidence showing the relationship between IQ scores and the ability to perform tasks, as well as the relationship between IQ and success in high school and college. And also how having an average or below-average IQ limits you and how you can do nothing about it. Jordan Peterson has empirically proved this. As a matter of fact, I've discovered that the self-esteem of many people in my social circle and at my workplace has been almost destroyed because of those statements. If someone's dream is to become a computer scientist with a slightly below-average IQ, which is closer to the truth: Peterson's empirical research or your 2015 video called "How To Study - The Keys To Acing School And College"? I still remember watching that episode more than 10 times when I was 16, lol. I know it's difficult to relate when this stuff was relatively easy for you.

@Leo Gura Obviously. So, in other words, all the so-called “wisdom” about mindset, thinking patterns, inner game, etc. means very little. If that’s the case, shouldn’t you delete around 30% of your videos, since during this decade, your views have heavily shifted toward genetic determinism? As for the alternatives, since 'doing your best' is not enough when compared to genetically superior people (assuming they work hard as well), basically, the only option is to manipulate and exploit everyone and everything around you. That’s the only realistic alternative I see.

@oOo The thing is, I’m mostly frustrated with the equation I thought was true for so long: “You’re gonna get from life what you put into it.” This is something that Leo also said in his videos back in 2020–2021. Now, of course, I’m responsible for my own life and all that, but that equation is very limiting, a quarter-truth at best.

That’s how humans generally behave. A poor person from a Third World country isn’t going to compare himself to a middle-class person from the West. He’s more likely to compare himself to another person from his own area. This is very obvious. It ain’t gonna help even a tiny bit if you tell a 5'8" Dutch guy something like, “Look, bro, you’d be tall in Malaysia, India and Indonesia. Don’t be depressed about your height!”

How did you arrive to that conclusion?

@Leo Gura If I have shitty genetics, what's the point of making most of my genetics? I'm just showing my frustrations. I've read close to 100 self-help books on growth mindset, positive psychology, and the inner game over the past 5–6 years, but they mean very little when reality hits you hard. For instance, there are a shitload of books that tell you how to ace high school and college and get good grades. Despite working extremely hard and working on my mindset and all that, the results of that effort weren't even close to those of my friends. This is just one example out of many. In pickup and dating this is very visible as well. If 80–90% of your health is determined by your genetics, why do so-called nutrition scientists rarely mention this? Why doesn't society just tell us the truth? Is it only because it's so painful? That's ridiculous. It ain't gonna solve anything.

@Natasha Tori Maru You just proved my point

Not long ago, I posted a thread titled "Women are attracted to relativity" where I specifically pointed out that "women there are evaluating me in comparison to other men" and shared my experience. Well, not too many people liked it. 😄

Leo just mentioned that he doesn't like to make predictions. I'd say the opposite. They're pretty damn accurate, and there's something special about them. They have a kind of unique mixture of analytics and his own intuition. So my suggestion is: make as many predictions as you can, on any topic!

@Natasha Tori Maru Have you told that to the founder of Actualized.org, mr. Leo G?

When my GF tells me, "I deeply love you," that already includes deep respect. "I deeply respect you" sounds more like a polite way of initiating a breakup. So yeah, the former gives a much bigger dopamine hit.

@Leo Gura What is your prediction for the emergence of AGI? Have you thought about it?

@Ulax Good point. From my POV, one of the biggest problems in the red pill or manosphere, in general, is the far-right aspect of them. We're talking about one of the most, if not the most, dangerous ideologies in this day and age, and I don't like the idea of blending that shit into dating.

@Natasha Tori Maru Powerful wisdom right there, thank you.