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@Basman agreed. It feels so weird how much it is being pushed to consumers, even if they do not want to use it, to show their shareholders the big numbers. At the end of the day, i feel like that is what they care about, not how much harm they are doing to the environment or to people's lives, socially and psychologically in some cases, as long as the the number below the company name is green, "it is all fine"
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The IBM CEO also made a quote https://aimagazine.com/news/ibms-krishna-questions-financial-viability-of-ai-data-centr How AGI seems kinda far fetched. (And also we were supposed to be on Mars by 2025 )Doubting all these spendings on AI It brings another aspect way too similar to Dot Com Bubble, Once the big players start to doubt, doubt begins to pop up in other investors. And everything starts to trickle down. And it is made worse when the actual reality hits, how bad the employment rates have been https://finance.yahoo.com/news/powell-says-u-job-growth-143002852.html Which creates even more panic, more red numbers on stocks, and the cycle continues. Lastly, I am not a financial pundit, these are my opinions and findings which I gathered from reading opinions of various experts and forums and yt videos.
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The Ripples 1. Immediate economic effects AI-focused companies would see massive valuation crashes, wiping out trillions in paper wealth. Tech sector layoffs would cascade(which are already pretty worse)including in semiconductor manufacturers, and businesses with bloated AI teams. As a result Data center construction would see halts, stranding billions in infrastructure investment. 2. Labor market disruption Consequently, people hired for AI roles would flood the job market. Universities pumping out AI-focused graduates would be pointless (for a while). The promised productivity revolution wouldn't materialize, but the workforce restructuring would already be done. Offshore AI training and annotation operations in 3rd world countries (like Kenya and Philippines) would collapse, affecting over 6 digits of workers. 3. Infrastructure stranded assets Similarly to Post Dot Com bubble, billions invested in data centers, power infrastructure, and specialized chips would become stranded assets. Electricity generation capacity built for AI data centers would sit idle or require expensive repurposing. The environmental impact of the buildout would be a permanent cost with almost 0 benefit. The "AI washing" - claiming AI capabilities to boost valuations - would trigger lawsuits and regulatory scrutiny similar to post-Enron era. 4. Geopolitical shifts China and the US have positioned AI as a national security priority. A bubble pop would force reevaluation of these strategies. Countries that bet heavily on becoming "AI hubs" - UAE, Singapore, various European nations will face economic down trend. Other effects (which have been witnessed in previous 3 crashes) Unemployment, inflation (again which is already worse due to tariffs and post covid spending boom), Standard of Living depraves, Mental health will worsen especially for new young adults, as job uncertainty makes your degree and certifications devalue, esp in CS field. Housing Crisis worsens, people are already struggling due to minimum wages being low compared to the house rents
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For a technology which is promised as the new revolution, it is rather rejected because of its nuisance. From Google pushing AI Overview in their search results, to Microsoft gushing it in in every single place in Windows OS. I personally have seen more rejection of it on the Liberal side over the Social Media space, as many claim it to be shadowbanning them and in extreme cases even causing deportation from US (for people who share stuff in support of Gaza). https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/us-using-ai-to-spy-on-international-students-even-instagram-likes-can-get-deported-visa-f1-mark-rubio-trump-2690421-2025-04-02 https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/meta-use-ai-chats-personalize-content-ads-december-2025-10-01/ There is also no way to disabling AI features from these platforms. All this pointing out the downsides of AI is for arguing, It is a bubble, and due to the rejection (in the parasocial space) of it, the chances of it being popped is big. (I mean ofc it would pop if its a bubble, but there is some negative sentiment attached it)
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AI , even though the technology is here to stay, but the Industry of this technology is probably the biggest corporate grifting bubble us humans have witnessed. The most important arguements on why it is a bubble: 1. Money Regulating in Circles Nvidia(supplier of Chips and GPUs for data centers) announces it will invest $100 billion in OpenAI. OpenAI announces it will use that investment to buy Nvidia Chips. Nvidia considers OpenAI Investment as Net Profit. Same thing happening with AMD investing in OpenAI, OpenAI giving its 10% stocks to AMD. AMD takes cloud services from Oracle. Oracle invests in OpenAI. 2. All Major AI Companies are seeing a net loss relative to its investments Chatgpt has recked over hundreds of billions of dollars, as compared to their net earning which is around $20-25 billion. They use a lot of 'projection', about their profits, on which they get the investments in the first place. 3. High Expectations, Low Productivity Businesses and Companies which try to implement AI to boost productivity see almost no productivity growth, relative to no AI + Human work environment. There are few other arguments which show it is in many ways too similar to the Dot Com Bubble of 1999. Wild Optimism of Corporate world because of the green numbers on a screen (Tech Bro neuron activation) There is no actuality to any of their numbers, rather everything is Projected. AGI and ASI for example. Dreams which are too far fetched, compared to where we are now. How even the smartest Chatbots have a disclaimer *AI can make mistakes, but it is pushed around as something so perfect that it is causing layoffs at massive rates. (There might be some usefulness to that but that is beyond my sphere of understanding of big businesses.) Lastly, the Corporate greed and Corruption is one of the biggest reason imo why it is over glorified. Every CEO of Tech Giants has their money lobbied to the current US Administration. Which is why they are spreading it so fast. Without zero Regulations. For an AI to Run, Generate, and Respond answers takes a lot of energy and space, which is why Data Centers are so rampant. They are so toxic to the environment that they literally make the surrounding environment unhabitual for any and every species.
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danniel replied to Natasha Tori Maru's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Gotta love how Right Media Outlets skip over the point the man who stopped one of the shooter is a Muslim. https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/1pme3lp/ahmed_al_ahmed_the_bondi_hero_hes_a_43yo_married/ How current times are, people jump to blame one group(based on skin colour or religion) who they despise the most. -
@Natasha Tori Maru My point was literally to ask that person's perspective. I never intended to diminish their art in any way. To add on/counterpoint, I wish to know your perspective on this(even though it is clear) Earlier this year, people were putting their photos and videos in Chatgpt, and turning it into Ghibli Studio artwork style media, Do you consider that as creativity for all or diminishing the value of art style invented and perfected throughout his lifetime of Hayao Miyazaki? Another thought of mine is, how the person said he directed and created the music mix Recently there some AI artist hitting the top billboards on Spotify music streaming platform, is that okay for artists who have spent years mastering playing instruments, training their vocal chords, creating music from themselves? Lastly, (a way lower perspective for sure lol) like my previous examples If i use AI to create an app, I use AI to write codes, design the graphics, get music by it. can that be counted as being a programmer/app developer? (I gave the AI the idea, I gave the AI the colours, I gave AI how things should be) PS - for anyone reads this and feels angry or like I am ignorantly stupid. Do enlighten with your insights on this. And rather the "you dont know jackshit", do point out the direction where I can l learn about that jackshit like yk, "explain it like i am 16". (because I probably am) Edit: @Natasha Tori Maru forgot to add, i wouldn't mind discussing about this topic and gain any insights on PM here (if you that is okay with you)
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@AerisVahnEphelia cool cool fam, the point of me asking that was to gain the insight. I wanted you to explain to me lol. Literally said I am open to change my perspective but "you're saying this because you’ve no clue how to make videos or do things with AI." I dont. Thats why I asked XD. Maybe I am overthinking but the your message sounds worked up, but whatever since you dont care what others think "I m the artist", mb, it should have been "I draw sometimes". Anyways, cool to hear your viewpoint
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A digital portrait sketched by me last week
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@AerisVahnEphelia I wish to ask to an AI artist. How is AI art your art, "made by you"? As an artist myself, right now I perceive AI art as ordering food, like I go to an app, I order food Someone else cooks the food It gets delivered to my home I cannot call myself a Chef, because I never cooked, used a stove or used a pan, never stirred the food in the cooking pot Similarly, I go to an app I type in some prompts An algorithm creates the art It gets delivered to my PC Can I call myself an artist? because I never used a pen/stylus, I never used a drawing pad, I did not used my hands to draw/paint A disclaimer, I do not disregard the quality of the art which was created, furthermore I do not intend to diminish your efforts in any way. I genuinely wish to ask how and why do AI artist consider a generative art as art created by themselves. I tried to share my thought process of how I cannot see as AI art as Art created. I am open to change that perspective if there is a reasoning behind it.
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www.youtube.com/@moreperfectunion Good to get insights with Investigative Journalism of Capitalists current steps and their future goals. For example-
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I am guilty of falling in this trap. As a guy in early 20s, I see new videos of Leo and something about them felt "justified", even though consciously I tell myself, from where i am now, it is nothing more than mental masturbation. In no manner have I mastered the 3rd/4th level of Self Actualization in Maslow's diagram. I end up constructing a house on a sandy soil with no foundation whatsoever This is a really helpful and great post.
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danniel replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Apparition of Jack if this is true, oh my god the narratives spun in the last 24 hours. But again, such a common name Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said officials have Tyler Robinson, the suspect accused of the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk. “We got him. On the evening of September 11, a family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff’s Office with information that Robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident,” Cox said during a news conference on Friday. -
danniel replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
One couldn't be more accurate if they even wanted to. I do not use Youtube app or website.I browse it via Tor and other frontends with no ads/shorts. So I never log in on Yt. The amount of right winged commentary promoted even if one searches for literally anything aside from news, an indie video game or a cooking recipe, is BONKERS The comments under those posts, even more radical ones. Only 'Sky News Australia' is recommended on EU and Asian Yt without login. Which is so so right winged aligned, they have a segment named "Lefties losing it" where they nit pick the most deranged Neo Liberals tiktoks Under all of these outlets, He is being portrayed as a Maytr and ideal "who was silenced". I recently watched the "Systems Thinking" video again, nothing could better describe the upcoming shifts in the society, specifically against minorities and POC groups, including in EU. -
@OmniNaut Or watch him make a podcast where somehow he gets over 50k listeners and then sponsorships of fishy health supplements but hope your prediction is closer to the truth
