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If this is true, that means you and everyone else on here don't have any experience whatsoever. If anyone on here has an experience, just know that it disproves solipsism because I have one 1,000,000% beyond a shadow of a doubt. But you would never be able to tell me you do because your word on this means nothing. But if Leo is right, all hail me😎 everyone bow down to me peasants!! You guys should contemplate the fact that you have no experience. I bet it would be possible to realize on a 5meo trip that your existence never happened and you were actually just a non-existent dream character inside some random guy on the actualized.org forum's mind. Now that would be mind blowing Wait sorry which point is this referring to?

Why does God have to have omniscience and absolute sovereignty of mind?

Wait sorry which point is this referring to?

I guess some questions are so deep you can only take them up with the G man himself. I'll be trying 5meo as soon as I get my health back, with an open of a mind as possible. I recently ditched all of my spiritual beliefs about no self, solipsism, consciousness, etc. I am even open to materialism at this point. It's important to be aware of the delusion and self reference problems you can run into with psychedelics. Also damn this website is buggy as hell

Right. I don't see how reality can be absolutely infinite like Leo and so many claim but also solipsism is true. Absolutely infinity literally implies in infinite number of consciousnesses. You have to choose between solipsism (One POV, infinite possibility space) or absolute infinity (infinite POVs with infinite possibility spaces). For me I'm choosing the notion of God that is larger, grander, more magical, more awesome. And that for me is one that simply just includes the maximum amount of stuff.

Just asking someone if they're conscious will never prove or disprove anything. How do you know you're not the first person ever to exist? Or the last?

I can get behind the idea that consciousness is the ground for any form to occur. Where you lose me, is where you say the same consciousness resides in all beings and this is somehow solipsism. Even if it's the same meta-being or consciousness living through every being, they are still nonetheless conscious, which is not the idea that solipsism really conveys.

This sounds more like a definition of God than solipsism. Solipsism to me is the idea that only your mind exists and other beings have no consciousness.

Sorry didn't see this at first. I don't think the massive scale of reality is a compelling argument for lack of meaning for me. Yes God enables suffering but it's all for a higher purpose. When we only think in absolutes and never consider the relative, I can see how it's easy to feel insignificant. But from the POV of a human you have a very limited number of people around you and limited opportunities to do great things in life. Try to appreciate the beauty of how many positive things can come from life even though we're so limited, unintelligent, and insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

I mean I am curious why you think it doesn't matter if other minds exist. It just puzzles me how someone could have this worldview, and maybe I'm missing something. I'm not trying to crack the whip down on everyone lol just go through this logically and coherently.

I did explain it to myself, re: the first post in this forum. I'm still strongly in the camp that other minds do exist. I don't see anything wrong with asking someone who has a lot of experience in this field what they think.

If you stab someone, it doesn't matter to you whether they feel that pain or not? Seems like a pretty nihilistic worldview to me

Existentially it doesn't but personally it does. I would really like to know if the people close to me are ghosts and if they would even suffer if someone hurt him. This would change the way I view the world on every level, and make me much more empathetic.

I think other minds existing or not makes all the difference in the world. It keeps coming back to the question of whether you go through every possible iteration or just imagine lives you want to live indefinitely. I keep asking Leo this question and he never answers it lol. If you're saying that because we can't experience other beings they aren't there, that was impossible in the first place. You can't be you and verify another mind.

I started this conversation with the hope that people would actually read what I said and do some free thinking instead of just touting off what every non dual teacher says

Just because something isn't in your direct experience doesn't mean it can't exist. That's kind of a retarded line of reasoning. Yes I'm assuming other people exist based on logic, but keep in mind the only way other people could possibly exist is for them not to be in your direct experience.

I just used logic to argue around it. Yes there's no way to know other minds exist - but how do you know they don't exist? It goes both ways. What I'm pointing out is that the logic of solipsism is a) wildly inconsistent from person to person on this forum, and even across Leo's videos and b) Is a house of cards that can easily fold given a grander scheme of reality. I don't see how solipsism and absolute infinity can both be true, but hey, God should be capable of anything so you're right, why can't they both be true.

These are dumb redundant questions. To be you, you have to be separate from other minds. And why would you have to experience multiple minds at once in order for other minds to be real. The second question just assumes solipsism is true on no ground whatsoever. Another mind would take place in the vacuum of empty space, or nowhere, just like your current mind.

Just so I'm not strawmanning, you're saying that even if you go through an infinite number of lives they would all occur to you so nobody "else" ever actually happens. What I'm saying is that every possible being could not be accounted for by one consciousness, no matter how many reincarnations. It would take an infinite number of completely isolated conscious bubbles to achieve absolute infinity.

Yes, that would still be solipsism. What I'm getting is that every life possible exists, but you have the option to go into whichever one you choose. However, consider the possibility that if every conscious experience possible weren't adequately accounted for in first person POV, something that's possible would be outside of God, allowing for another consciousness either way.

If God can do anything, it can make separate consciousnesses. You said it yourself - God is all there is. My friend having a consciousness is a part of all there is, and without it God wouldn't be everything, leaving something outside of it. If you still claim this is in my imagination you are speaking from a place of ideology and are claiming to personally know all that is.

Either solipsism is true and reality isn't absolutely infinite, or reality is absolutely infinite and solipsism isn't true. But to either I would say, how do you know? If you don't believe me on this - if reality were absolutely infinite, the sum total of everything possible experienced at once has to exist "within" it so to speak. Otherwise it would be leaving out something. Your premise that we are in a lone POV dreaming eternally is an ungrounded assumption.

How do you know? I don't think they have to be

I plan on doing 5meo as soon as I can figure out how to get it

It seems like life is full of synchronicities, to the point where everything I think is directly intertwined with what is going on around me. For instance, I'll ask a question to God in the form of a thought, and hear a loud noise outside or thunderclap when the answer comes to me. Am I just schizo for looking at reality in this way or is God constantly communicating with us and giving us signs? Ever since I started taking psychedelics, my thought process has changed so there's this deeper inner voice that interjects into my stream of thoughts and I don't feel like I'm the one thinking it, more like it comes to me from my higher self. I want to distinguish between this and just hearing voices like someone with schizophrenia. What I'm talking about is just like automatic thinking, not being paranoid/hallucinating. Additionally, on my psychedelic trips I've noticed that the visuals you see are highly responsive to your thinking and where you are in life, which makes me feel like reality as a whole works this way. I get subtle visuals anytime I close my eyes and notice this same effect. Given the solipsistic nature of reality and everything being my imagination it would make sense that it's totally possible to communicate with God and for thoughts to have a direct bearing on what happens in reality. It seems like the more aware one is of this phenomenon and the mental nature of reality, the more God is open to communicating with you. Leo, can you confirm or deny this? In your facets of enlightenment video you said this is possible but I just wanted to confirm that this is actually the way it works.