cataplin

I wasn’t sure if this topic belongs to this segment, but definitely doesn’t belong to the serious emotional issues because I want to discuss and analyze suicide but from a more practical point of view using real logic as much as possible. I have always heard and read that suicide is bad and should be avoided because you would pay for the consequences (bad ones) such as: going to hell, reincarnating to a lower level of life, being eternally in the other realm suffering, and many other theories. But nothing of this makes sense to me because not everyone is under the same circumstances in life, so “God” (or whatever you call it) just can’t judge everyone the same way, right? I will give some examples of different scenarios to show why. 1. Lets say 2 people commit suicide. One of them had a really great quality of life in general terms but eventually got something like bored, depressed and finally committed suicide. The other one was born under the most miserable conditions you can imagine and suffered a lot all their life, and finally to end the pain of his misery he ends his life too. Why would God judge both in the same way and both will suffer bad consequences? It seems a little unfair to me. 2. Fool example but just to explain my point: A person is on a boat in the middle of the ocean and the boat starts to sink. He will literally be dead in less than 20 minutes by drowning, but also he has a fire gun. He decides to shoot himself (commit suicide) by a headshot instead of waiting to die. He is going to die anyway in some minutes. Why would God judge him for dying in the way he considers less painful or whatever reason? It seems a little unfair to me. Also, why would God judge for such a decision if God itself put the person in that particular situation? The person commiting suicide didn’t decide to be in a situation where there is unbearable pain and suffering. If one simply cannot take the pain anymore and thinks it will stop with death, why would God judge? I just cannot understand why taking your own life is said to have the worst consequences. And also, what happens to the people that commit suicide without realizing they did it? I mean the people that were in such a bad place mentally that they were not conscious at all of their act. Why would God judge those people too if they commited suicide without knowing they were commiting suicide, they simply did it because of their mental state. Why would people commiting suicide be judged in the afterlife? Please if someone can give their opinion on this. I think I explained my point about why something about the theories doesn’t smell right. Thanks for any input

@Loba thanks for sharing! I will watch that video as well.

Thanks Leo!, so this would mean that the result of committing suicide is conditioned to what the person think and feel about it. Even if they try to look for excuses or want to think that it is ok, if deeper in them they know that it is unfair to life or God that they do this then they would pay for the consequences. But if they genuinely think and feel that they have the right to do it then they would have no bad consequences or would not be judged in a hard way. Still it sounds strange to me that the result is conditioned from one to another. Anyway, I'm confused, I guess there is no really way to know if there is a difference between dying intentionally or unintentionally.

I got curious about DMT in our brains. I know we naturally produce it. if that is so, is it extractable like from other animals or plants? is it in our brains exactly in the same way and state like animals or plants from where it is normally extracted for humans to use? or how does it work? what would be the difference? serious curious question

Lol its a hypothetical question. not thinking about smoking someone's brain haha such a mystery. Just got curious about how it works. thanks guys

@Tim R thank you for your answer. So hypothetically speaking, was just wondering what would happen if someone uses some else's DMT. Would they experience the other person's spirit? or their death? Is there information inside the DMT itself? This is more of a scientific type of question. Not sure if something like this has ever been questioned or studied.

Thank you for your answers! its a matter of accepting, true

Greetings from Peru! I wanted to see if I can get some advise or feedback on a certain situation that apparently I don't know how to handle well. About 8 years ago (I'm 33 now) I started my consciousness path, to say it in a way, by going to Medicine ceremonies and just trying to keep this knowledge with me. Of course in the middle of this process I have had many downs and gone back to bad habits and everything, but in general terms all this time I have been aware that reality is way bigger or complex than we think or normally experience. Just trying to point that I'm not enlightened or anything. On the outside I appear to be a regular guy. Now the thing is that specially after ceremonies or actually in general I'm dying for people to know about all of this and experience the wisdom that I have experienced. Like I can't stand knowing about this just by myself. For some time I tried to convince friends and family but not a good idea. They are mostly very close minded and they don't believe me when I have told them about THIS. They think it is just hallucinating from substances and it is not real. Even if they accept what I say they just don't want to know more about it. I really don't know why I have this urge for everyone else to know about this, the truth, spirituality. I feel lonely in my surroundings. Is it insecurity? I know the question may be silly and the answer is as simple as "just don't care about it" but wanted to check if someone is kinda on the same spot and has any thoughts. Like Thank you all