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Desires do not go away if you let them go. Let's take your profane example - if you stop releasing your sexual energy, it will get stuck, and will create pressure. You will need to release it one way or another. If you cut of jerking off, you will go to strippers, chase girls, etc. When you become really advanced in meditation, then that pressure gets released through meditation, but beforehand, you can't truly let go of desires, as you will simply repress them and they will explode in an unhealthy way sooner or later - like with priests.

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:facepalm: "In quietness are all things answered, and is every problem quietly resolved." "Be still, and rest in quietness upon your Lord. Leave all your thoughts of the world behind, and come to me with wholly empty hands." "The memory of God comes to the quiet mind." "There can be no doubt that if you are willing to rest in quietness upon the Holy Spirit" "In quietness are all things answered, and is every problem quietly resolved." "Simply do this: Be still, and lay aside all thoughts of what you are and what God is; all concepts you have learned about the world; all images you hold about yourself. ²Empty your mind of everything it thinks is either true or false, or good or bad, of every thought it judges worthy, and all the ideas of which it is ashamed. ³Hold onto nothing. ⁴Do not bring with you one thought the past has taught, nor one belief you ever learned before from anything. ⁵Forget this world, forget this course, and come with wholly empty hands unto your God. (ACIM, W-189.7:1-5)" "Forgiveness, on the other hand, is still, and quietly does nothing" "In quiet I receive God's Word today. 1. 1Let this day be a day of stillness and of quiet listening" "The miracle comes quietly into the mind that stops an instant and is still." "Let this day be a day of stillness and of quiet listening… His Voice awaits your silence, for His Word can not be heard until your mind is quiet for a while, and meaningless desires have been stilled. Await His Word in quiet. There is peace within you to be called upon today, to help make ready your most holy mind to hear the Voice for its Creator speak. (A Course in Miracles W-pI.125.1:1;6:2-4)" "Father, I come to You today to seek the peace that You alone can give. ²I come in silence. ³In the quiet of my heart, the deep recesses of my mind, I wait and listen for Your Voice. ⁴⁵I come to hear Your Voice in silence and in certainty and love, sure You will hear my call and answer me." Now do we wait in quiet. ⁶We wait with one intent; to hear our Father’s answer to our call, to let our thoughts be still." (ACIM, W-221.1:1–2:6) "The instant’s silence that His Son accepts gives welcome to eternity and Him, and lets Them enter where They would abide. For in that instant does the Son of God do nothing that would make himself afraid.” “Salvation is undoing in the sense that it does nothing, failing to support the world of dreams and malice. Thus it lets illusions go. By not supporting them, it merely lets them quietly go down to dust. And what they hid is now revealed; an altar to the holy Name of God whereon His Word is written, with the gifts of your forgiveness laid before it, and the memory of God not far behind” “He brings the ending of the world with Him. It is His Call God’s teachers answer, turning to Him in silence to receive His Word. The world will end when all things in it have been rightly judged by His judgment. The world will end with the benediction of holiness upon it. When not one thought of sin remains, the world is over. It will not be destroyed nor attacked nor even touched. It will merely cease to seem to be.” “The Voice for God is always quiet, because It speaks of peace.” “His quiet children are His blessed Sons.” “God is very quiet, for there is no conflict in Him.” “Only God’s Comforter can comfort you. In the quiet of His temple, He waits to give you the peace that is yours.” “In perfect peace He waits for you at His Father’s altar, holding out the Father’s Love to you in the quiet light of the Holy Spirit’s blessing.” “He lives within you in the quiet present, and waits for you to leave the past behind and enter into the world He holds out to you in love.” “Can you imagine what it means to have no cares, no worries, no anxieties, but merely to be perfectly calm and quiet all the time? Yet that is what time is for; to learn just that and nothing more.” “God rests with you in quiet, undefended and wholly undefending, for in this quiet state alone is strength and power. Here can no weakness enter, for here is no attack and therefore no illusions.” “The memory of God comes to the quiet mind.” “Let all this madness be undone for you, and turn in peace to the rememberance of God, still shining in your quiet mind.” “Forget not that the motivation for this course is the attainment and the keeping of the state of peace. Given this state the mind is quiet, and the condition in which God is remembered is attained. It is not necessary to tell Him what to do. He will not fail.” “The still infinity of endless peace surrounds you gently in its soft embrace, so strong and quiet, tranquil in the might of its Creator, nothing can intrude upon the sacred Son of God within” “The quiet that surrounds you dwells in him, and from this quiet come the happy dreams in which your hands are joined in innocence.” “Judge not except in quietness which is not of you.”

I see it's not getting through. As expected. The ego doesn't want to learn what will kill him - Silence. The ego wants to continue thinking, which is the fuel behind him and this world. He's happy thinking "holly" thoughts, as it keeps him intact. "i am glad to hear you are having divine experiences, just be careful not to get attached, because they are not mandatory and can be dangerous" - Investigate why you aren't having them. Divine experiences are natural when you become miracle-minded. It's not anything special. When you practice who you truly are - Silence, you experience who you truly are - Heaven. I do, and you do not, because you practice incorrectly. Simple and obvious. "The miracle comes quietly into the mind that stops an instant and is still. " - notice that it doesn't come to a mind that "thinks diametrically opposed thoughts" You will be surprised to learn that it's all about silence, when you really do the Course, as now you made things up based on DU and your own misinterpretation. As many do.

@gettoefl so you're still confused with the process of forgiveness. You think it's about thinking. You probably read DU and not ACIM, hence the confusion. Yes, from Gary's books it seems like you have to think a certain way, but when you read ACIM and understand it, you will see that it's about silencing the mind until it dies and the world dies with it. Gary himself recommends Ken Wapnick. Jesus appointed Ken as a man who will explain the course. Listen to Ken's lessons, they will help you understand that it's not about thinking, it's about SILENCE. Listen to A Course in Miracles with Keith on Youtube as well, he is the foremost student of Ken's and preserve's his main teaching - Silence, or the true practice of forgiveness which brings enlightenment. Why would Jesus say that forgiveness is still and silently does nothing? Why would he, in the workbook, say that you must forget everything, including this course, and slip past all thoughts into that silent place inside where God dwells? It's the same process Ramana Maharshi recommends, but he calls it self-enquiry. Just try siting silently for a month and you will see that it's true. I did it and I began visiting the formless realms of heaven, as described in DU. You don't get it, but you definitely think that you do. Not that I care what a dream character does, but I do like discussing ACIM.

@gettoefl you can think you are not a body and still remain damaged. you dont awaken by being a holly ego, thinking holly thoughts. You awaken by forgiveness, which means by being still and slipping past all thoughts into that silent place where God dwells. acim gives you, seemingly, thoughts to practice, but the point of acim is to go beyond concepts, as all concepts, even those that say your brothers are holly, are still within the ego framework. seeing brothers as holly means overlooking the form alltogether and being silent inside, not saying - oh look, a holly brother. Thats still ego speaking. Spirit and forgiveness is silent.

Jung didn't understand what is happening here. He uncovered that we have a shadow, but he didn't understand that the whole human mind is a shadow. The good part of the human mind is a mask the shadow puts on, not the other way around. He also didn't understand that it's unreal, a figment of the imagination, a shadowy identity, made out of nothing and doomed to return to nothingness. You can analyze the ego for all of your life and you will find infinite quirks, because it was born out of error and doesn't have a source. It's a bastard child.

Good, why would you spend time with people in the insane assylum, when you have healed, at least a bit? here’s how to decide who to be friends with: does their presence help you relax deeper into the peace of God or does it hinder it? If it hinders it, they are the opposite of what a true friend is. be kind to yourself and protect your well-being. Everyone on this planet is psycho, but since everyone is, it seems normal, until you heal.

It’s impossible to desribe a formless experience outside of all experience. Cessation as a word is accurate. Talking more about it would just remove us further from that non-experience. Cessation is a dead-end anyway. It’s a trap Buddha fell into and all those who follow his path. It’s just an “experience” of nothingness. Sure it feels like the mind and all the universe reset - so what? You will have to reincarnate again with this level of atainment. clowns like Frank Yang, Shinzen, Spira and most other teachers reach it and then preach it as enlightenment. Lol. read ACIM and start to learn true wisdom what enlightenment is. All other teachers are the messengers sent by the ego and will lead you only to death, a thousandth time.

Did you already get what forgiveness truly is and how to take it to the end, so it brings enlightenment? did you get what idols are? Do you understand temptation and the danger within it? are you aware of what the Holly Spirit really is? I wonder if you really get acim. I started practicing it seriously and began experiencing formless heaven.

Experienced cessation during my first psychadelic trip. It does feel like a deep reset. Although the mind struggled to interpret the experience accurately at first and got into a dark knight of the soul. I’ll try to reach it or a simular state naturally now, it simply requires a prolonged exposure to meditation.

I think it's a question of desire. Enlightenment is a total commitment. Whenever I choose to focus on that place of inner stillness inside as much as I can for extended periods of time, like months, I begin to merge with God, little by little. Sometimes I get an enlightenment experience every few days, if I meditate all day all night. Sometimes I wake up in bliss, and I can carry it with me throughout the day, at least a bit. My dreams become celestial as well, even more amazing than what I experience on psychedelics, but psychedelics have a certain tension to it, at least for me, but when I get heavenly dreams, they are completely effortless and have a natural feel if that makes sense. So my experience tells me that if I commit myself fully to this practice, I get closer and closer to God. It is The Way. If I drop this total commitment, all my bliss and enlightenment experiences go away. It's my current understanding that we cannot serve two masters, we have to either choose God completely, or this world, this body and this mind. To get enlightened, this mind has to be returned to God, whose memory in us is the unshakable inner peace we can connect to. I don't think psychedelics can do it for you, not sure why. It would be the easiest path, just take them and tadaa, you're there. But it doesn't feel like it works that way, no matter how often you do it. It just show's you what's ahead, but to go there, you have to completely surrender to God. I think to really go for it, we have to be certain that nothing here satisfies us, we don't want anything from the world anymore, we're tired of it and we finally want to come back to our true home in Heaven, the place of Infinite Love. Interestingly, I learned, to a pretty high degree of mastery, how to manifest what I want in life. Bashar and Abraham and CwG teach this and it does work. It's just finding what you really really want, seeing it day and night, being obsessed by that vision, even acting it out to really tune yourself to that vibration, and then you get it, but it has to have a lot of momentum behind it. But whenever I get something, it's pretty empty and doesn't satisfy for long, even a soulmate or a lot of money. Compared to the Love of God, everything here is just breadcrumbs. Anyway.. That's my present understanding, how do you guys see it?

You said that after hundreds of deep trips you've done you're still at pretty much the same baseline state. You have some accurate concepts, perhaps, but do you think you will reach enlightenment with your current understanding of the process? How do you plan to get enlightened, practically? Do you believe that death will awaken you? Or will you give a cop out like oh your confusing permanent vs impermanent states or whatever. Enlightenment is permanent and removes the need to dream other dreams, because the reason for dreaming was abolished. I know you won't get this now, but anyway, just wondering what's your POV on how you will do it.

I remember reading a book Solipsism: The Ultimate Empirical Theory of Human Existence it’s written by a professor who teaches philosophy at washington university. he basically asked and compiled oponions and arguments for and against solipsism from various philosophers. his conclusion was: not a single argument against solipsism is strong and he is almost certain that solipsism is true. unfortunately, he also concluded that even if it’s true, it doesnt really matter. Ups.

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Share your summaries as well, please. I feel like life is horrible & beautiful. You grasp it, yet only a small part. It’s mysterious. It’s an illusion, perhaps, but who created it? where is he now? do I have controll over myself and this life? Appears like I have less and less control. I barely exist anymore. sometimes it gets scary. but I surrender and flow. I remember that I am unable to grasp anything and relax into the unknown. I cannot predict the future, good or bad. I do not know what is truly helpful to me. Perhaps pain is. I do not know. I stopped fantasizing and began to be ingulfed in forgetfulness of it all. The state feels humble. Opposite of what I felt when I was on control. i do not believe ego can be developed to be truly loving. I believe it has to dissapear. Then Love can appear. Might be wrong, though. I am about most things most of the time, so I do not trust any thought I think. Feels like falling without a parachute but there is no ground. Kinda fun. Kinda scary. I understand and truly know nothing. I do not even exist.

Perhaps because they are the manifestation of the Holly Spirit? Holly brothers and sisters leading you home, which, in truth, we have never left. 🕊️🕊️🕊️🖤🖤🖤

Love Lisa! Such a gentle soul

After realizing how my mind truly doesn’t know much and isn’t able to make wise choices, I felt humble and depressed. If I am incapable, then what will happen to me? Probably something bad. I was scared. I felt like it’s me against the world. I even tried working alot, trying to win the rat race and it only destroyed my mental and physical health. There is so much responsibility on your shoulders when you think you have to take care of yourself in this chaotic world using a mind which isn’t able to forsee the future or control life. It feels like being a small bird caught in a hurricane. I came to a point where I felt hopeless. However, I was guided to come back to the teachings of David Hoffmeister, as the main point of focus in his teachings is to teach people how to Trust in Divine Providence. He says: dear child, this world is only a dream and the dream is orchestrated by God Himself. You need only learn to Trust it is so and all will be taken care of without your effort. God goes before you, making straight your path. Not one seeming difficulty will but melt away before you reach it. You need take thought for nothing! Perhaps true spirituality is built on Trust? David instructs: You must become completly dependant on God your Father. Put all of your life on His shoulders. It’s the only form of dependance that gives strength instead of taking it away. You must travel through this labyrinth of life completly oblivious of everything. Absolutely careless, yet totally Trusting that He will provide. It’s like the prodigal son’s story, where the son left his Father’s home, squandered the wealth the Father gave him and fell into slavery and poverty, eating worse than the animals in his Father’s home. He then decided to come back to his Father on his knees, begging to be taken back in, promising to work as much as he can whatever laborous work Father gives him. But Father wanted to hear nothing of that. As soon as he saw that the son is coming back home, he ran to greet him, instructed his servants to bring the best robes and he threw a grand fiest, celebrating the return of his beloved son. That’s how I felt. Incapable, poor, scared, and overworked. Nothing went according to my plan. The uncertainty was too much to handle for my little mind. Instead, I want to try Trusting in Him. I don’t want to carry anything on my shoulders. I want him to arrange for all of my needs to be taken care of without my effort. I want him to remove all obsticles from my path. I don’t want to live in fear. I don’t want any responsibility at all for my life. I want to be like the son whose father takes care of everything and celebrates his return back home. From now on, I want to stop living like a son of man, and start living like the son of God. I don’t want to believe that I came from flesh, will die and crumble into dust. I want to believe that my source is Divine and he takes care of every aspect of my life. I need only have Trust in him. I experienced more miracles than I can count in my life. I don’t know why it took so much time to surrender to Him. But perhaps that was also a part of his Plan. Now, I walk in Trust, careless of everything, except my Loving Father.

I don’t think I’m making it real, stopped thinking about life being illusory and started to focus more on Faith. I generated some AI pictures to express how I feel now:

Tears filled my eyes today when I realized how good Father is. 🖤🖤 developing Trust as I go. Learning to see his care and gentlesness as he guides me Home.

User from Reddit shares his beautiful message: I live in the abundance of God. Now. He takes care of me in ALL ways. ALL of my needs are met. He is my Source, whether that leads me to stay in my current job, or to transition to another job, or to quit my job. He uses these time and place situations for salvation, for miracles. He loves me and guides me, even if I am stupid in somebody else's or my own eyes. There is no need to worry. The 'future' is in God's hands, whether I ask for financial help at the last second, or have been struggling with guilt thoughts, attack thoughts about this topic most of my life. Ask, Jesus says. Ask and receive the Answer. Money is not excluded in His teaching. Why would it be? I have also learned from His teaching that I need to choose whether I want freedom of body or freedom of mind. Choose one and the other will be used as means for reaching that goal. You need be neither careful or careless, just cast your cares on Him. Take no thought for TMR. I have what I need. I am taken care of, I keep my eyes open for His plan for me. He gives me wisdom, not 'human judgement'. I consider the birds and the lilies And avail my self of my Father's help, He WAnts to help me, with and about EVErything. With His plan for me. I simply give a nod to God, my Friend and He lovingly handles, corrects my misperceptions and 'my life.' I belong to Him. There is no guilt or worry in His thought system, nor shame. Therefore none in mine. He undoes it all, all false perceptions for me. Imo, I need do nothing means my, and everybody's 'problems', are already solved in His plan for each of us and everyone. All I need do is ask, and as I go, I can See with Christ. I trust Him, my Father. He brings me home to the awareness of His Love. I can drop all fear. God's loving plan for me goes on no matter my misperceptions, I need do nothing to be saved or to have my 'problems' solved in the vision of the holy spirit, of the Christ that I carry. He shows me that I am already free. Another user shares his miraculous experience based on Trust: The trust comes first - and then the results show I know, for sure, that you were not in a state of trust. The same way I was previously unable to really let go and 'trust', despite spiritual teachings telling me to do so, and despite thinking I was 'trusting'. What happened was that I would 'trust a little', then get frustrated that there were no 'miracles', and then a small miracle would happen, but not quite enough, and I would see-saw between this state of trust and doubt. This see-saw lasted for close to ten years - before I gradually built up enough trust to really let go of the fear of not having money/ needing to work. For me, trust was built up over time - I trusted a little, and then reality reflected that trust a little (by having a little good things come my way). And then the more I trusted, the more good things came my way, until I built up sufficient trust to deeply let go, and then good things came pouring forth. As it is, just trust as much as you can, and let the Holy Spirit guide your way. Stop waiting for results to show - when the trust is there, the results will come. If you cannot trust deeply, the Holy Spirit will work with your current level of trust to help you gradually trust more. In the meantime, don't focus on wanting to see what you judge to be 'miracles' - just let the Holy Spirit guide you towards doing what is most helpful for you to do (whether it be work or otherwise). The Course says 'I need do nothing" - and I literally did not plan or work towards any of the income that I have now - I simply did what I felt guided to do at the time, not knowing how it would lead to having money, or this and that, and yet it did, and I have more than enough to live on with very little work (maybe a few hours a month), and what work I do, I did not 'plan' on doing - it came to me. In fact, every deliberate, ego-fear motivated, plan or attempt I made to 'work', or 'to find work' fell apart, or I very quickly lost motivation, or did not pan out

Feels like you intuit that it’s fine and I would agree. It’s a basic human need, like food. When I tried to limit my lust, it began expressing itself in more unhealthy ways. Maybe that’s the reason there’s so many scandals in churches with priest and children? They limit themselves, but the pressure inside is so intense that they want to release it in anyway possible, even if it’s destructive. i love porn. There’s so many sexy girls to enjoy for free and there’s something new everyday. Love non-weird hentai too. I especially love combining weed + porn. The experience is so engaging!

Sorry for the depressing post. Thank you for the advice, everyone. 🖤 I get scared sometimes and want to get help through these types of posts. my new post describes how I will try to proceed. Let me know if you agree with that.

I hate life. There are some good moments, when revalation comes, but I can’t come back to God because I have to fucking work a shitty, soul-sucking job just to keep a roof over my head. My job eats up all of my mental and physical capacity. I am a slave. And when I get old and I am no longer a good slave, as I am sick and mentally degraded, I get thrown in the dumpster to suffer out my remaining days in pain. Even when I work hard to get ahead in my job, I still don’t see good results. I’m not smart and I know it. Life is suffering. How the fuck did God mess up so bad that now there’s mostly hell? I wish it would all end. I can’t even kill myself because I will have to come back to the same psycho planet again. I think I get how to wake up, but life isn’t even giving me a chance to do it, since I have to slave away my time to the system. God, why have you forsaken me?