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To really enter deep Samadhi you need to live a meditative life, which is based in stillness. If you are engaged in the world, you won't taste the fruits of meditation, since meditation flowers only when the conditions are right. You keep the most basic survival things, of course, like eating, but if you have a job or are engaged in the world in other ways, your mind won't be still. Those who entered deep states or even reached enlightenment know that stillness of the body is the main component of a queit mind, and it has to be radical, you have to sit still all day all night, and only then the conditions for meditation are right. Only 1 in 100 million does this, though. And only 1 in a billion does it long enough to reach enlightenmeny. Gl hf.

This community that Leo built is deep within a deadly (literally) trap that I will uncover, perhaps leading some of you out of it. Not saying he's doing it intentionally, he's just confused. He's got some things right, like solipsism and that God is Love. His pitfall, though, is attributing the creation of the universe to the same loving God. A perfectly loving creator could only create perfect love, and the logic of that is as sound as it gets. Some of you have experienced God's true creations through deep psychadelic trips. The author of that experience and this universe differs. Attributing God as an author to this universe is a deadly mistake because how will you escape this mad illusion if you believe it's God's will for you? And if you don't - you wil literally suffer and die, again and again, until you grasp that a perfectly loving Father would never send his Son to such a place. Leo saying that you simply don't see the larger plan is his way of tricking himself and you. Notice that he doesn't know the plan, he just hopes there is one. If you use your own head for a moment, you will see that this world isn't evolving towards love, it has been and always will be the same psycho planet. All the worldly pleasures that you experience are put in place only to entrap you, making you chase those breadcrumbs of love until you decay and perish. Your deepest pleasures, like relationships, food, whatever, will turn around and inflict the largest pain. Where is love in that? It's so funny hearing that this is a love simulator from a person who suffers constantly, as basically everyone else here, depending on how well they distract themselves from their pain. Notice that Leo never actually tells you the larger plan. The plan that is supposed to maximize love is never explained, you only believe that it is there, even though your direct expetience, again and again, for thousands of lifetimes, shows you otherwise. He might drop an abstract idea on how it works, but he really doesn't know, since there is no such plan. Didn't he tell you to look at your experience to find truth? Well, look and evaluate - is it full of perfectly loving experiences, bliss, pleasure, or the opposite? If you saw all the pain and suffering you experienced for the last thousand years - you would be disgusted at the idea that there is a meta plan of love. There are some better and some worse lifetimes, if you are living a better one now, that doesnt mean all of them were like that. And even the good ones are only relatively good, not absolutely. One of the dangers of psychadelics is that they make you believe ideas you brought with yourself into the trip, and how many of you brought the idea of a loving meta plan into your trips, hence cementing that idea in your minds? Long long ago Gnostics and Valentinians realized that this world in not the creation of a God, but of Demiurge or a Demon. Jesus in A Course in Miracles says the same, if you are able to comprehend that scripture, although he calls the creator of this world ego instead of demiurge. To understand the reason behind the creation of the universe, feel free to read the Dissapearance of the Universe by Gary Renard, it's just an explanation of ACIM, but a very clear one. You can tell Leo never read it, or he wouldn't be talking the way he is. It will transform your thinking if you study it, I promise. It's the only book you need. I've read all the books from Leo's booklist and none of them come even close, actually, all of them are full of falsehood. And isnt it funny that ACIM is the only book Leo never really read from his booklist? You can't just jump to the workbook, as he did, since the text has all the juice. Only one genius throughout known human history figured out the reason behind the creation of the universe. Read those two books, they will enlighten you. That's all, folks. I doubt anyone will actually change their mind, but it doesn't matter. Only one has to understand it, and he does. Oh, let's say you do open your eyes and want to escape these endless psycho dreams, here's the only method to do so: let go of everything this world has to offer, simply sit in your room and be still. Let go of all thoughts, choose silence again and again and you will come back home. It's that simple. Remember, enlightenment, heaven, God, Self, is not perfectly visible now only because you are constantly doing things to cover it up. When you stop doing everything - it will happen. It takes some time, like up to a year of perfect non-doing, but that is a cheap price to pay, since you sacrifice endless pain for endless love. I'm open to any arguments against what I wrote, since when you clearly see what is true, you can run circles around people who are confused, even though they might not be capable of seeing that. Now I'm done.

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I've already talked about it in the previous page here I think. Yeh demon in this context is just a God with a belief in separation. Calling it a demon is kind of dramatic, I guess. They've talked about many other things that I've experienced directly.

Because 95% of things they said I confirmed in my direct experience, so the remaining 5% I can't confirm I believe.

Yep, been doing that for years, just some things, like previous lifes, you can't really access directly now. Some have that ability, not me though. So having teachers who help is wonderful

Yep, I know all of this. Doing it is what I fail at, for like the 100th time. Lol 😁

@NineHfanbase thanks for the input. Not blaming Leo, just disagreeing on the reason why the universe was created, which is a biggie. Besides that, yeh we are on the same page on a lot of metaphysical things.

I also feel like this is the life of awakening. We are blessed indeed if that is so. Let us dedicate ourselves to the Divine and make it happen. 🧘‍♂️

Greetings, Max, thank you for joining the discussion. My teachers, apostles Thaddeus and Thomas, say that looking at one single life creates bias, as you only see this one, not the one before and after. They state that we usually live one good life, then one bad, then one good, and so on and on, as per duality of the universe. In the end, we will live the same amount of good as bad lifetimes. So you are living a good one now and are hopeful, but there is no guarantee you won't be reborn next life into a country that is at war, under nuclear threat, with starvation, etc..

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@Princess Arabia yep, I did leave for a while to focus on meditation exclusively, now trying to maintain awareness whilst spending time here. Actualized.org forum has it's grips in me as well 😄 I enjoy this forum as people that gather here are so open-minded. They have to be if they follow Leo, so glad to discuss stuff with them.

Now that deserves an Amen. 🙏

Slowing down is the primary tool that allows us to bring the Peace of God with us wherever we go. Walking really slowly might feel awkward at first, especially since everyone is going so fast, but the presence of Peace will soon overshadow that awkwardness. Everything we do, even typing, can be turned into a spiritual practice. Maintaining awareness of the breath aids in the slowing down process. We come back home to Heaven through what the Hindhus call Samadhi, a state of perfect inner stillness. However, if we spend 5 hours per day meditating in an Asana and then the rest of the day we drop that stillness, rushing around doing things without awareness, then it's like we are going forward a mile and then back the same distance, leaving us stuck at the same spot on our spiritual journey, even though we are meditating alot. I remember a time when I was very dedicated to maintaining Samadhi throughout the day. One morning, while sitting at a park, I suddenly shifted into a an incomplete and temporary state of Unity, where the inner and outer became one. The state could be described as containing "Peace that passeth understanding" as well as being blissful, although not at the level of psychadelic trips, but it was still fantastic. Anyway.. The state brought with itself an even greater, naturally occuring physical stillness. Which is great, unless you are crossing a wide, busy street and you see the green light starting to flash, even though you haven't made it even half way across the street, so I had to run the remaining distance. 😄 That's when I noticed that the sudden increase in the speed of movement made the peace and bliss reduce significantly, even though I slowed down again after crossing. Uh oh, it turns out that speed is the enemy of God. It's not an original idea, but perhaps a refresher will be useful to some of us here. Thank you for reading. (hopefully slowly) 🙏🧘‍♂️ P.S. I've also had a girl come up to me, give me a flower and tell me the way I walk is amazing, referring to the slow, gentle meditative walk. We ended up exchanging numbers and hanging out, turns out she's very spiritual. So there you go, another pick-up tactic for you guys who are into that type of stuff. 😄

That's a wonderful insight. I think we connect to true wisdom when we are present, so whatever we do is more effective. Thank you for sharing 🙏

@gettoefl Wonderful! You are precisely right! If my delivery is unkind and has pride in it, it means that I stepped out of the Holy Instant and into the unforgiving, frustrating thought system of the ego. If I master maintaining inner peace, the delivery will change naturally. I'm not talking about changing behaviour while keeping inner attitude the same, but I guess that's how I sounded like, so my bad. Glad to hear you've found the book valuable and understood it. Peace be with us. 🙏

Hmm, could you explain how infinity of the Self makes it so that mistakes within his mind are impossible? Yes, the error (seperation) didn't actually happen, but he believed it did it. When God, in his innocence, at the metaphysical level was contemplating what it would be like to seperate, he got an experiencial answer, since at that level all wishes are fullfilled. Yet when he seemingly seperated, his previous state of Oneness was completly forgotten, so he couldn't look back and remmember that he is God. And when the experience of seperation occured, still at the metaphysical level, he experienced fear, since duality means that the opposite of God, which is Love, will be created. If the same Love was created, or if the previous state of Oneness wasn't forgotten, then the request in his mind for the experience of duality wouldn't have been possible.

@Squeekytoy hmm, I think let's agree to disagree at this point as I am sure neither of us will change their mind. I did find your arguments really intelligent, so thank you for the discussion. Hope we have some more in the future. 🤝

I get the argument, but we really don't remmember the time when this whole shabang started and this is the only explanation I found that perfectly explains this universe and God.

Hmm, I think that Divine Mind has the ability to feel guilt. Why not? When God's mind is healthy and pure, His nature is Love, but in this case, he made a whoopsie and Love was replaced by guilt.

Wohoo, happy to hear! It actually took me like 3 times of closely studying the Dissapearance of the Universe to grasp it. I even played out the seperation story as though it was happening right now to make it more real and grasp it. All of his other books are fantastic as well, since it's from the Apostles. The books "Lifetimes where Jesus and Buddha knew each other" were just mindblowing!! Can't recommend them highly enough. Anyway, hope you can keep pushing towards total commitment even after times when the illusion sucks you back in. It's impossible to let it all go at once, but we have to try again and again, clearing out the attatchements little by little, making less mistakes and wisening up with each passing day. Also, let me know if there are some lessons in ACIM or terms you find confusing, as Jesus has his own meaning for words and he uses unique terms. Not even saying I get all of them perfectly, but I might be helpful in some cases. 🙏

Same, sorry again. My comment was arrogant and douchey, so Princess was right. 😄

@Thought Art Same here.. Extending an apology as well. Was annoyed from beforehand and didn't want to talk to anyone, so you just got hit with the vibe I was already in. I guess the ideas we discuss are very sensitive to each of us, as we literally base our lives on them, so it's easy to to get frustrated when someone disagrees, dismisses them and so on. I'm also trying to improve and go into relationships with the intention of maintaining peace and avoiding conflict. Sounds simple, but doing it is.. you know.. challenging to say the least.. 😄 Anyway, I did read every book from Leo's booklist under the topics that were relevant, so if there were some about politics or similar I might have skipped them, but everything under spirituality/metaphysics/money/relationships and so on I did read. I saw Leo as the wisest guy around and he was my main teacher since I was like 17, so if he recommends a book - I read it. I've seen all of his videos as well, exluding the politics ones and a few others. When I say I saw him as my main teacher, I mean I followed everything he said, wrote on the forum, on his blog, did everything he recommended to do (like 30-40 high dose trips with solo meditation retreats lasting weeks as preparation), etc.. I'm so passionate about recommending the particular book I mentioned because I can see Leo's worldview pretty accurately, since I've read and experienced many things he has and I know he's missing something that would be life-changing for him and his students, because it was for me. It was already very valuable for a few people on this forum who did try and read that book, as per their feedback. I see people on this forum at the same level of understanding I was at not so long ago, so I feel like I could help them soo much if they would be open to it. I guess I do come out as arrogant when I explain things, but I just try to provide clear arguments in an attempt to be helpful. Not that I can't and shouldn't improve my delivery. Anyway, on to your arguments: -"If a demon created reality, who created the demon?" When I say demon, I am reffering to the same God, but at a point where he honestly believed that he seperated himself from God, hence no longer identifying himself as God, but as something else. He then felt guilty for the seeming error of seperation (betraying God, which he now sees as someone outside of himself) and the guilt was so accute, that he had to run from it. As a solution, he pushed the guilt out of his awareness and projected a whole universe outside of himself with people doing bad things to him, so that his internal guilt seemed outside of himself, now they are guilty, not you, which minimises the internal terror and guilt he felt. It's just a short, badly written summary of what happened at a metaphysical level and why the universe of time and space was miscreated. I'm bad at explaining it, that's one of the reasons I direct people to the book. But yeh, I'm saying God, in his innocence, was contemplating about the idea of seperation, like a kid playing with matches, and then he thought that he burned down the house, which he really didn't, but he believed he did. He really believed his mind split, and now there's him, and God outside of him. Yeh, I suck at explaining. "If God is all loving, why doesn’t he love pain and suffering just as much as pleasure and joy?" Well you are God, so why don't you? Because it doesn't feel good. Trying to love pain is silly. Why would one hurt himself in the first place if the purpose is love? Why not just go straight to love? You don't need pain as a contrast to enjoy love. Even for contrast, you can just go into emptiness, rest there, and blissout again, no need for pain.

@Thought Art I could rebuttle your statements. However, I deem you unworthy of my presence.