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I think you are totally right on that one. We are being so attached to the depressed state/depressed perspective that we can't let it go. If we wouldn't care, we would let it go, but we are caring so much about staying in the depressed state, that we build a whole persona and story around it so it can become stronger. Thats how powerful attachments are, being obsessively attached to something can literally destroy your life. Thats why practicing detachment and letting go of things consciously is a very powerful technique. Its very interesting, that sometimes the ego would rather lead itself to suicide, compared to letting the negative identity go, and letting go of negative attachments.
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One of the main reason why, you can't think anything else just about suicide, because you are stuck in a negative depressed paradigm. Your paradigm is valid, we don't dismiss how bad you are feeling right now. But remember, just as others said it is just one paradigm from the many. You see no way out, because you think from your current paradigm. You can absolutely shift and change your paradigm, that way you can start to see other possibilities that you can use to feel better. Right now you need to be a little bit selfish, concentrate on yourself, give love to yourself, and only then you have a greater possibility to change situations in the world. If you really struggle and you really think that you can't do it alone, search for help. There is nothing wrong to search for some professional help. If you can't afford or if you really don't want to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist, you can call a suicide hotline.
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I would frame it this way: I would not even call it 'being happy' i would call it being deeply/fully fulfilled (not wanting to desire almost anything / not wanting to take from the world just only the basics to be able to survive). When you are truly fulfilled you only want to give for the World. From a fulfilled place one can really start to live his/her life and making the world a better place using their unique skills and capabilities. In that case, we can start to talk about what i wrote in my previous text, that you can figure out your own way what you want to optimise for (besides happiness) and how you want to make your own footprint in the world. Because in my opinion, you should connect your highest value with your carrier (Just as how Leo did with understanding). However, as we know from maslow's hierarchy, to be able to reach fulfillment and higher levels of consciousness - we need to satisfy our lover needs healthily first. So knowing where we are going, and why we are doing what we are doing consciously and having a solid plan can be really important. Also realising that mostly we are working towards fulfillment can be important as well.
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I somewhat agree with your approach but not fully. My method would be learning a lot too, but because i am just a layman i can only go so far. Maybe i am undermining how far i could go, but my approach would be this: Firstly i would go with a conservative method, where i want to find all the best specialist doctors and ask them a lot of questions. I would try those methods out, and ask about the medicinies side effects carefully and i would decide if i can go with it or not. I would also read about what could be the causing factors and search for speclialists in those fields as well. (The reason why i would start with the conservative doctors and methods is because conservative methods are the most tested ones, so i can know better what to expect from them) If after all that, i am not satisfied with the solution i would go for alternative medicine and methods as well.(lets be it a conservative doctor or a shaman or anyone who understands that particular field much better than me). Depending on how serious and urgent the problem is, most of the time people don't have time to sit around and read more and more to figure out the solution for a complex health issue, so taking some pills could be the best solution in that situation because you don't know better. Taking pills can be very effective for different kind of health issues even if it comes with side effects. Sometimes taking pills can be the most secure way to deal with the problem, because it was most likely tested a dozen times before compared to alternative methods. Sometimes the problem with an alternative approach is that it wasn't tested too much and there is not so much evidence you can find how effective certain methods are and what kind of problems certain methods can cause. I like your learning approach though. Continous learning and studying about your health issue can help you out a lot for sure, to find better ways and to understand you situation better. In my opinion the holistic approach would somewhat look like this: You decide that you learn about it as much as you possibly can, and you are willingly try any method or medicine (if you researched about them enough before) to try to solve your health problem. Reflecting on your life how much more you can max out your mental and physical health (making sure your basic system is in the right place) Trying to find correlations with other parts of you that you have never thought about before, how all your system can work together (what part can what effect on different parts). Asking the question if core of the problem is really there, where you are searching for it or it is coming from somewhere else. Asking the question if it can have multiple different kind of causality factors so you can going through them one by one. As much disagreement i have too as a layman with the conservative health system, i wanted to make points and shed light to the good parts of it as well.
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If you could wish anything , which one would you choose ( you can only choose one ) Solving this: Everywhere i go i see people suffering and try to survive working wage slave jobs, kids with illnesses, people with mental health issues, poor people. Or solving your depression, all your emotional problems, all your inner suffering Do you think those two are directly related, or do you think you could see those two decoupled?
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Yes, i somewhat agree with what you are saying. However, if for someone health is really his/her top value,then learning about it and optimising his/her life around that value should be the choice. There is nothing wrong with being more aware and to learn about how you can become more healthy. Of course anything can become too toxic, but being more conscious should be good. There is nothing wrong with calculating either, it all depends on calculating what impacts has on you. Look at Leo, Leo's top value if i know correctly is understanding. He is optimising his whole life around the value of understanding. An outsider can say, that it is toxic and he should value having children or family or health much better than understanding. Usually health isn't a top priority/value for everyone, there are things that are more important for most people compared to health. So overall it all depends on one's values and goals. How do you want to live your life? <--- Thats an important question to know the answer for.
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There are some research around alcohol that it can be beneficial for you if you are moderate about it, but its arguable. But even if we say that it doesn't have any direct health benefit, a small amount of alcohol you have sometimes won't destroy you nearly as much the other things you can do for yourself. For example, if we are talking about being anxious and being stressful, i think that is much more damaging for you, than having a little alcohol here and there. If the health part is the main reason why you are contemplating about to drink a moderate amount of alcohol or not, then i think you should weight other things in your life as well, how healthy is your diet, how often do you exercise, overall how much is your lifestyle is optimised for being healthy. If Health is your biggest value and priority in life, then you should cut out alcohol completely from your life. Live up freely for your highest values, its your life, just calculate how much stress it will bring and calculate how much can you handle the pressure from outside. Maybe it will generate a lot of stress for you, and maybe it will be even more damaging for you comapared to rarely having a drink with your friends .
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One final advice for your coding journey. The advice would be to make your own projects. Start from scratch and learn the needed technology,knowledge, tricks, and piece of code that you need to make your little project happen. Thats the ultimate learning, when you can put your knowledge into real practice, you struggle, you need to research, fail and try and fail and try. Thats how real projects are actually bult. If you will have a job in coding in the future, you will be doing something similar. If you are a beginner, you should choose smaller projects like building a tic-tac-toe game. There are a lot of other small project ideas, you pick one and you try to solve it yourself. If you really really struggle you may peek and see part of the solution and then try to finish your project. By building your own projects: you will really understand how coding works in practice, you will learn how to translate your idea into code, you will learn how to research for solutions or part of the solution, you will find a lot of error and that way you will realise what different kind of errors can mean and how to solve them your brain will have a lot more connection to coding, you will have a tangible experience, what different kind of coding concepts actually mean. You can build your own portfolio, which can be very beneficial when you apply for jobs You will learn a lot of skills through struggling (like being able to find effectively a soultion, researching, getting to know your IDE better, handling errors more effectively, learning debugging, and learning about the most common bugs, and learning about where to search for the bugs in your code) You can reuse your own code (you will know exactly all the parts of your previous projects and you will be able to use parts of it for other projects or problems) Good luck!
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In my opinion, if a lot of people is telling you the same critique to you, that should be alarming for you to think about it. But its all depending on the situation and on the kind of critique you receive. For example, you can get critiques from people who is much better at a certain field than you, so you should evaluate what they are saying to you. I think you should also differentiate between critiques and impulses from someone. Sometimes there is a heated moment in someone's life so they will project a lot onto you. Overall, what you can do is to improve your own self reflecting abilities. If you focus on improving your self-reflection, if some critiques are valid you should be able to realise them yourself. Of course, there is your own bias, so that you can't see some stuff, but still using certain practices like meditation and psychedelics should show some fallacies in your ego. If we are talking about an intimite relationship, if someone wants you to change your core values and some of your core habits, then you should really think about that realtionship if you really want that to go forward. If we are talking about slight behaviour change suggestions, then maybe if that person is important for you, you can try to change those. You should know exactly, where you want to draw your own line. What is that you can tolerate. You should always focus on what you can do. But negotiating can be important as well, but before that you should know exactly what your values are, and where you draw your line. If your line is clear, then communicating with the friend or partner can be beneficial, communicating is key. Informing that particular person where is your line, what will you be able to sacrifice for that particular relationship, and getting to know why they told you their critique.
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You should be developing a ton of intuitive knowing about women by then. Most of the time you won't even think about what to do in certain situations because you went through it tons of times, and you have a lot of experience by then. Its like if you would ask this: Can i get better at something, if i gain a ton of experience by doing that particular activity? The answer is obviously, yes. Experience is always king.
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Maybe you are right on the smelling issue, but it doesn't sounds too exact to me either from the information that you wrote. Maybe she isn't getting bullied, she just can't keep up with the new pressure. Or maybe she is getting bullied for some reason, but you can only get to know that by asking more questions. It could be that she shouldn't be in the position she is in right now, because she can't do the work she needs to do, so if she get an easier position maybe she could handle the stress more well. I think that if you want to help, you need to gather more information about this situation. I would ask some clarifying questions from the woman who think she is getting bullied unfairly: When did the bullying started? What things she is being told? Does she know anybody else who is getting bullied the same as her? If you don't get any significant insight about the issue, then you could ask the bullying side as well, what exactly the problem is, how she feels about the situation, whats her take. That overall should somewhat clarify what is going on, and then according to the information in your hand you can make steps if you want to solve it or not.
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I think you should contemplate about exactly, why you feel guilty when you drink. I think some arguments could be made that a small amount of alcohol can even be beneficial for you. You say that you are not a heavy drinker, so i don't think that drinking is the problem here, more of a mental block or something psychological. Contemplate deeply about it, exactly why do you feel guilty: Is it a cultural programming? Is it something that you have learnt from you parents that you should't drink Is it something else that you came up with in your mind to feel more special or to feel more better? Do you think it causing harm for your spiritual development? if you think it is, then the question is how? What is exactly that you try to achieve by not drinking anything?
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VPN-s are easy to get around. But yeah, it can be annoying. Also there are cases, where some content is hidden from you, if you have a certain kind of ip address. In that case, you are not necessarily even aware, that you can't access everything. So even if you know how to get around it, you won't , because you are not aware that you should. For example google did it, russian's couldn't access almost any western news about the war. As a russian you had to use vpn-s to be able to see western articles or you had to use another search engine. Tsuki made a thread about it.
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You are rightfully becoming more and more pessimistic. However, you shouldn't let your pessimism to chain you down completely. We don't want to have a society where everyone is naively optimistic about every issue, because thats very damaging and it could be fatal. We don't want to a have a society either, where all the people are pessimistic, so they don't want to do anything, and don't want to make any change, lets be it inner work or outer work. We need to understand the issues on a systematic level, and make sense of the issues, so we can start to think about the changes what we can do to at least try to solve them. Sometimes there is nothing else but the ability to try. Even if the chances are very low to succeed, we should capitalize on it, if we don't have any other choice.
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zurew replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
yap, cannot be limited down to any method or sentence or concept. <--- even this one is incorrect because its finite. <---- and this one and i could go like that to infinity. -
zurew replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
haha, i was about to say that. -
For me it works even with multiple different kind of accounts. I just make an account which has minimum 18 years of age in it, and works fine, without photo ID. But if you really struggle with it, then yes follow mojsterr's advice and google it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0KWPqUBGUQ click on it, and try to login into your youtube account, that way you should be able to watch it.
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You can use the 'ignore user' function. I don't know how it works, because i haven't used it yet, but it could be usefu,l if you feel bad from some user's posts.
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zurew replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Even to be able to say that there is something like non-existence, non-existence to be real it needs to exist. How can non-existence exist? Only within existence. So even the concept of non-existence is within the domain of existence. You simply cannot escape existence. -
Yes thats true, however there are things that we collectively agree on that has some value. For example money, money is an illusion that has a value that everyone is agreeing on or in other words we collectively as a market putting emphasis on money. There are also a million different kind of items and services that we as a market collectively creating and putting value on, but in reality thats all an illusion. However, all those things are really useful. In my opinion, you can do everything artfully. For example, if you think you have an important message, it could be important and useful to put that message and use some art to make it more digestible ( for example make a very good and well edited youtube video about it ). So you can do your art without targeting anyone but you can do it targetfully as well. You can say that art should speak for itself, and shouldn't be distorted by doing it for money or for special targets or for a purpose. I sort of agree with this, but i think art shouldn't be pinned down just like that. Art can be useful if you want to do it that way, art can speak for itself if you want to do it that way. For the ego there is always a need to do things for reasons. I write this message for a reason, you wrote your message for yarco for a reason. Even when you say, that you do art for itself, i think even there you could find some underlying reasons why you do it (You enjoy doing art, so that could be a reason for doing it, if you would not enjoy it you probably wouldn't do it). We are highly depended on our meaning making and value judging processes. But from the Absolute perspective you are right. If you have enough money that you don't need to worry about food and shelter, then this is true. However, if we don't satisfy the lower stages of maslow's hierarchy, then you won't be able to do art just for itself, without worrying about doing it for a specific market. So if you need money you can create it in a different way than being an artist, however you could do both at the same time. I agree with you, that money should'nt be the main goal. But if you need to satisfy your needs first, there will be a little distortion in your art work to be able to make your needs met, so after that you can fully focus on what you really want to do.
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So here is a thought experiment: In my opinion, it should be possible to manipulate this dream, what i have right now(ego talking) in a more effective way. There should be a fine line between getting to God level/infinite level of conscioiusness and the point where you are identified (as an ego, but an ego who is much more conscious than this one right now) but not God's level yet. If that level of consciousness could be reached and could be maintained, then from that level, the dream manipulation should be more possible . So from this lower self / limited ego perspective, it seems like i can manipulate this dream on a certain level, but because this ego is a really limited level of consciousness, it seems like that i have a very small amount of free will (from the relative perspective). But, if i could reach such a level of consciousness, where i am not aware that i am the Absolute/God, but at the same time, i am on the edge of God consciousness or close to it, i should be able to manipulate this dream better, compared to what i can do right now.(or better to say, it should seem like, that as an illusory separate self i can manipulate my dream better). Because once one reaches God level of consciousness or the Absolute, there is no identity because you are Everything.There could be no other relative manipulation because it already happened, or it is happening.The selfishness spectrum hits 0 there, because it is realised, that there is no finite self which could desire anything.Its not even that it already has everything, but it Is already Everything.The desire for manipulation or the desire for owsnership can only happen from a finite self. Also, illusory manipulation can only happen if there is a separate self (when the ego is not aware, that everything is already God's will).So illusory manipulation can only happen when one is identified as a finite self. What Illusory manipulation means in my vocabulary: a separate self thinks that it has the ability to manipulate, or a separate self thinks that it has free will (not realising, that God is the ultimate puppet master of everything) So even if we ultimately say, that it is a delusion, because as an ego you can't really manipulate anything because it is an illusion, i think it could be a fun experiment to try. Reaching such a level of consciousness where it seems like, that more manipulation is possible. Again, even if it just seems like, that you are doing the manipulation, it does not matter. That seemingness should be enjoyable in an of itself.
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zurew replied to Wildcattt555's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Agreed, the term of a 'scientific fact' is misleading, its a fact as long as it isn't disproved. Agreed with this one as well. The current schooling system making the minds more trapped and more dogmatic. -
zurew replied to Wildcattt555's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I don't think we should shit on science entirely. We need to recognise the limitations of it, but the good parts of it as well. There is a lot of stuff that is falsifiable, so feel free to find any source that can prove anything otherwise. You make a hypothesis and test it over and over and over again. After a few thousand tries if your hypothesis is still true, then you can say more and more confidently that it might be true. You can always disprove it , but i don't think we should dismiss all of it, because we don't like parts of science. Of course its nowhere near holistic, but that doesn't mean that science can't make good points.2 It would be nice if we could understand the entire swamp, but to be able to understand something you need to test stuff. To know if a frog is affected by bee eating in the swamp you don't necessarily need to understand the entire swamp. You make this hypothesis that 'a frog is affected by bee eating in the swamp'. Now you test it over and over again. If all of the tests says that it seems to be true, then you can say more confidently that it is true, if you still don't think its true or that it wasn't accurately tested, then do some test or find some tests that prove otherwise. There are some cases where you don't even have the time to understand something holisticaly before you make some narrative about it. For example covid19 vaccines. We didn't have the time to sit around to understand human beings more holistically, we had to make some tests and then create a vaccine, and then test that vaccine over and over again. So overall you can make confident points without understanding everything holisticaly. But of course it would be much better if science would become much more holistic. We need to find ways to improve science not just shit on science. -
I would try to get more feedback from other psychologists or psychiatrists as well, because sometimes it is a misdiagnosis. After that, if all feedback is pointing towards that i have this x mental illness, then I would try to learn about it deeply, learn about how it works, what are all the best coping mechanisms that i could use, making myself more aware how to handle it. Learn about all the factors that can make it worse or better to make a map for myself how to be able to deal with it. I would contemplate about what advantages can this particular mental illness give me, and what are the bad parts of having this mental illness (in other words what are the things and desires i need to let go of, and what are the things, that are easier thanks to this mental illness).
