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Hehe, every once in a while I start watching a few oh his videos and apply his teachings a bit. It's tough stuff. I'm not sure if I missed it but I think his videos lack a bit the love part. But it's still helpful though.

@Blackhawk The thing I observed is that such experiences are so convincingly real that the ego makes stuff up afterwards and denys it in order to conserve its sense of reality. One thinks about reality with a conditioned mind which means that those thoughts are not yours. So everything one thinks is not the real thing and alters the experience inevitably. So no one can know the truth. Might be better to stick with direct experience and inquiring the nature of thoughts and that means observing the thinking as it happens. For example you can the pov where your thoughts are just a learned reaction to certain previous experiences like other thoughts or feeling etc. I hope that this is helpful.

To answer the question. Yes but you'll need a huge amount of psychedelics that you forget you've taken them or maybe if your suicidal or depressed and realize this experience is just one and is followed by another. It's gonna be less likely if you see the love in existence and trust. I'd say when you slowly dose up and get some experience you'll be quiet safe. But with the other tryptamins i dont know. I know someone who jumped from a roof of a small building. So handle them wisely and carefully..

@allislove Thx. Often I feel like I am in my own way. @CultivateLove Yeah, that's why I'm usually quite reluctant to opening a thread and also because I don't want to post nonsense. Oh, and a few minutes ago while listening to music I recognized that there is only a imaginary difference between nothing and something. It's a ever changing continuum. There is ever present knowing. So nothing and something are the same. I didn't see that listening is unity. ? Maybe that post will help someone else a little bit

Holy shit. During my meditation I started to notice that the duality between the inside world and outside world is just a point of view. You could easily say that what we see is an outside perspective and the silence is inside. But on the other hand you can easily switch and say that what we see is inside and the silence (you know what I mean) is outside. It's the same when I say what we perceive with our senses is everything there is and the silece is nothing there is, but because it's the other side of everything it's every thing. In a sense it is the same with life and death. The moment you see something it dies but the silence is also a form of death from the opposite point of view. The same goes with something and nothing, they are also interdependent and we know exactly what nothing is. During meditation the mentioned pov's started to oscillate and became in a sense one thing. Then the mind became restless and I felt the urge to write it down before I'd lose it. Hmm… shit when I read it over it doesn't make sense anymore and I feel quite confused. Am I on the right track though? Best regards

As @Adam M mentioned Wat chom tong is a nice place with a lot of foreigners and a very good place to learn vipassana. You might there or in one of their meditation centres do a 3 week vipassana course. That might be even better to see if the technics match to your preferences (You have to take that into account). When there's no corona I occasionally visit a temple of their tradition in germany.

There are so many theravada temples all over the united states and across europe. once or twice a month I usually take the 8 precepts and stay in white clothes in a thai buddhist monastry for 2 days or so. I would recommend you to do the same in order to get a taste what it is like if there is a monastry near you. You might also email a temples further away and ask if they know a temple where you could go to. But I'd rather pick one with experience with foreigners cuz there might be a some cultural differences. Once I had a friend in university and he went to a temple in order to ordain for 4 weeks and he was rather disappointed due to his idealism and high expectations.

@NOTintoxicated I want to point out that the thing might be that you ironically relfect in your writing a similar mindset as the person you wish death upon. You seem to be lost in mistaking the concepts of things like love with the real thing and project all sorts of things into others to justify your behaviour. We all do that more or less in some way or another. This should a reminder to inquire into ones own mind

To answer your question. In the first days you'll have only the short positive feeling after it. You'll have to really invest in that at least 5 min daily. But it will really pay off. It has many positive effects on your mind. There is actually so much about it, but I'll try to keep it short. Not only is it that this thought feels good, it even feels better and more true over time, the feeling grows stronger the more attention you give. Then this subconscious thing. Then one positive thought tends to pull other positive thoughts after it. You might want to think consciously other positive thoughts and replace negative ones that dont feel good to you. Think about peace and love and acceptance and the better you will feel. Due to the fact that there is no seperate person, only thinking, you can consciously create those thoughts and therefore this personal traits and you will better get along with the present moment which is yourself and get less distraction. Ive been doing this for almost a year and there's still lots of negative thoughts and work to do but it got so much better and slowly I realize how happiness is created. The thing is other thoughts change how you see and interact with the world. I'd recommend Leo's series on emotional mastery.

@AdamR95 Okay. Then why the worry? maybe you can deal with this situation by letting go. The mind always invents things to do. In such situations I'd try to be mindful, then it's recognised that's just conditioned thoughts and it feels unpleasent because its just how this thought feels and you don't have to be afraif of it. you created it so to speak and If you dont believe it and turn away your attention the thought disappears, no more problem. Maybe you could try to deal it this way too and make it an exercise? I know at first it's not that easy but how else do you want te get peace?

On my lsd trips I stop and stay nothing for eternity and then it is decided to come back again to enjoy the whole show as if nothing has ever happened. Sometimes there are different lives and dimensions imagined with a lot of time equivalent spent there before "I" continue this life. It's always the love and the wish to continue which brings me back. There is no difference between what happens and "my" wish. Suffering arises from a lot of misunderstanding and from action upon that. One wants this life.

@universe thank you very much. that's what I was looking for. ?

That's a tough question because most monasteries and ashrams have their own spiritual tradition and rather strict rules. Why not try a buddhist monastry for a few days or weeks and see if it fits? But consider that these are communities and they'll expect you as part of it to follow their teachings and to be committed. Nothings for free.

In my trips I realized that everything is vibrating. That means it goes on and off, like sound and silence which is the same thing btw. Even between thoughts or visual pictures there is an off which is also nothing. You can become aware of that in direct experience during meditation. Just stay with a feeling or a sound for a while and it appears and disappears and you'll notice that you are the empty space. Hope that this was kind of helpful. Maybe somebody else has a more elaborate explanation.

Vernom Howard offers you a rather tough perspective on those things. At least his lectures.

I think it depends heavily on the actual situation. Imo the OP is right in the sense that some people who are in need of therapy and use spirituality to avoid it might be better off with some kind of therapy to at least stabilize their problems before it gets too bad. Some people are in a phase were they are too stuck in depression and despair to start mindfulness techniques to change the situation and are bot able to do this work. Other people can do both and again others can handle their issues from the present moment for example by using the emotional scale and picking better thoughts. The trouble with therapists though is that they tend to be blind to a lot of nuances and the way thoughts actual work which might be an obstacle as the therapy proceeds. You have to meet the level where the person is at. For some works sufficiently.

This music has really nice warm vibes. I love it. ?

It's clearly just the opposite. I just listened half of it and as in Harris' other talks, he can't stop trying to use his concepts and doesn't get what Jim is pointing to. There is a huge difference in depth of understanding which Sam obviously lacks.

Exercise that on a rainy day: First slow down your mind a little bit and become present. Then look at the window and watch the single drops of water sliding down the window and see them merging and seperating from each other. Notice it's all happening by itself and ask yourself when exactly is the separation of the drops happening and what's changed. If you want to go further you can ask yourself what's that expercience in common with the experience of breathing. Do this with as little thinking as possible. Just observe and do this for at least half an hour.

Hey Dunnel, that's very sad to hear and I feel with you, but there is still hope. It might feel as if there is no way out and that it is undoable but you can do it if you take the time and build it up slowly by growing and by feeling it and a change in the way of thinking. I know that its harder done than written. Do you have a therapist and medication? Might be tough without it. I've been there and I know how hard it is. There was a time when I had to distract myself constantly to avoid those horrible feelings and thoughts. I couldn't sleep without medication and alcohol or Marijuana. It was terrible and lead to catastrophy. But I came to a point when I realized that the only problem is avoiding these things. It's been 2 years from that time and I've grow so much that I literally have more life quality than everage people. You can't meditate them away. Start giving those feelings room during your meditation and be mindful during the day. Mindfulness was the only was that helped me to go through that even though it felt freaking horrible. Start noticing your thought patterns and repeating negative thoughts and write them down. Then replace them with a positiv. Then start using them when you have negative thoughts and repeat the positiv a few times. After you have a few positive sentences make a practice of repeating them every morning or evening. After a while those sentences will feel more and more positive and bring you into a positive mood. You have to be careful to not let your negative mood stop you from doing it. Those pattern try to stick and there will be arguements that thats bullshit. But just do it. It will take you min 4-6 months to notice differences. The negative stuff has to be felt to grow lesser and lesser every time. Nahm has good advice (thx?), didn't speak with him though. Don't give up. There is still the possibility to overcome those things and create something beautiful. The thing is that you have the god given power to overcome it in yourself and it would be a pity to lose this opportunity to find out how amazing you are. My English isn't the best but I think you've got the point. Warm regards

I've had experiences on psychedelics that opened my mindbfor all that stuff and helped me get over deptession and it could be fun too. But maybe James is right. If considered why one takes them it seems always the to be the case that one wants sth different than what is now and thats in itself no problem. But its a hindrance to accepting whats now and therefore one must ultimately let go of them some day on their path imo. The thing is also that one can only know if he's successful and then in retrospect tell what the obstacles was. Examined it for yourself. Maybe i am wrong and still a noob. Regards

I don't know if he's already listed.. He is very far developed. But I don't if he uses the terms green and tier 2 from the sd model or from another one

When I was 24 I had a very mixed up friend (23) and she got a boyfried who was 34. he took care of her a lot and supported her in her growth and handle her fear disorder. He often took part in things we do at that age like going to a bar, barbecues etc and for my external perspective at that time he was a nice and caring man over that period. It lasted about 4 years. Now, 7 years later I think a little bit different of that what happened. She was insecure and had some troubles with career and family and she needed eagerly support of someone who has both feet on the ground. After 4 years she was growing them out to some extend and needed more of her freedom and the chance to make up for her own experiences that she was missing due to the disorder and this kind of relationship (even if we were often out together, she lived her life predominantly like a 30 year old). He did grow older and changed too and stopped behaving like a 25year old and got a bit rusty. There was also this power disbalance and they had to break up because of that amonst other things after these 4 years. Although he did help her get her shit together he was stuck to their old roles and they were striving in different directions with different obstacles etc and so after a while the thing became unhandleble. As in every relation there were more facets to it I can't mention here. But I wouldn't compare that to a 19 year old. Being almost 24 is a different cognitive level.

https://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/beware-of-images-documentary/ After I've read so many things on this forum I just want to make a contribution and share a documentary of how media works. I haven't checked the webside yet but they seem to have other interesting documentaries. Kind regards