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Here’s a few: analysis paralysis, unjustified (or at least unproven) sense of superiority over others or chronic inferiority and consequent social anxiety, lots of big ideas that amount to nothing or taking every day as it comes without living up any larger vision, being too serious or too frivolous with life, glorifying women (“simping”) or resenting them, becoming overly obsessive with personal interests or failing to hone in on a skill set, turning back on society and a “know-it-all” mentality or blindly following the herd, not being open to guidance from others or failing to take initiative, damaging extent of frantic masturbation and porn-watching in youth followed by phase of extreme no-fap, failing to purge negative emotions by communicating and offloading with others and becoming embittered with life or getting lost in the labyrinth of relationships, failing or not even attempting to integrate the feminine polarity or being out of touch with the masculine nature, and so on. A bit of a cobbled together list but I think many of these apply. It is worth pointing out that many of these superficially contradictory attitudes often go hand in hand with each other and inhabit the same one man. Usually, one of them will be exteriorised while the other will be internalised, e.g. hates women externally but glorifies them internally is very common amongst “manosphere” types. All of that being said, I don’t think it is good enough to view this all through a self-help “falling into traps” lens. Many men today are falling into these traps because they correctly see that present-day society is not worth contributing to.
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Incidentally, Islam is an interesting exception in this regard. We must remember here that everything in Islamic civilisation is oriented towards Submission (the literal meaning of Islam) to Allah. Those who would tell you that Islamic attitudes towards women are rooted in a crude and blind domination of the male “patriarchal” principle are very misguided, not that one can blame them given the present-day Western indoctrination into the cult of so-called “freedom”. Of course, it is also possible that present-day Islam has largely lost its original spiritual potency and devolved into an expression of one-sided male supremacy, but that doesn’t mean that it always was one! Anyway, in Islamic civilisation the paths that men would take towards God were those of action (particularly of a war-like variety, Jihad) and contemplation (murāqabah in Sufism, for example) whilst women would generally take the path of Love (to the man) and Devotion (often to children). Because practically all women in Islamic civilisation were taking the path of Love and Devotion, the original intention of the harem (the polygynous institution of the man taking multiple wives) in Islam was as a test of the woman’s love. Even the promiscuity that the men in this order practised served this purpose: could the woman lovingly accept her man engaging in sexual relations with another woman or would she fall into the petty possessiveness of the nafs-ul-ammarah (the soul commanding to evil)? Naturally, none of this is to say that we should all adopt the Islamic institution of the harem! It is just a short explication of the oft-misunderstood principles that one polygamous traditional society was based on. After all, such self-sacrifice and dedication to another is pretty much unimaginable to modern Westerners.
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Some of this is true but it is important to distinguish between primitivism and pre-history. Many ancient and non-Western cultures also practised monogamy: Hindu India, Traditional China and even ancient Egypt largely practised monogamy (of course the realities of sexuality are always more complex and some people within these groups practiced polygamy). Some might find it offensive but polygamy generally goes along with a primitive mentality: worship of the totem, pantheistic naturalism, a cult of the body and of matter, paths towards transcendence which are hysterical and Dionysian - often involving the rhythmic convulsions of dance, sex or ritualistic drug use - a feminine spirituality emphasising the Earth and the Mother, and so on. Polygamous promiscuity can be witnessed even in the West, particularly today given the neo-primitivism of modern Western man. Forgive me for pointing out that your argument here is very narrowly Stage Green, appealing to the wisdom of the primitives as opposed to the domination and oppression of the modern West. This too is a bias. Also, Stage Green should remember that polyandry (a woman having multiple husbands) was much, much rarer than polygyny (a man having multiple wives). Of course, though, you might be right that the traditional monogamous family has exhausted it’s utility.
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Oeaohoo replied to integration journey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Aimblack That sounds like an interesting opportunity because it has emerged naturally through meditation as opposed to being forced through bodily practises. Given that it has emerged naturally it is quite possible that it will resolve itself naturally but it might be worth researching ways of using this energy for spiritual ends. I know, for example, that serious Kundalini practitioners seek to force this energy to explode beyond even the head into the infinite blissfulness of the Sahasrara-Chakra. Naturally, this has certain dangers from a human perspective! That being said, it sounds like you did the right thing in guiding the energy back down the spine. Kundalini Yoga is based on the basic polarity of Shiva (the masculine principle) and Shakti (the feminine principle). What you are doing when you guide the energy back downwards is using the active Masculine principle to essentially “calm down” and ground the feminine Kundalini energy. It is perhaps mildly controversial to say but I would say that meditation is an essentially masculine activity facilitating detachment and self-overcoming; as such, it sounds like it has already helped you to control the emergence of this built-up energy. Activities such as meditation which are based on becoming the witness of one’s experience and detaching from the eternal flux of ordinary reality can actually arouse Kundalini in themselves. To use a mundane example, it is like how a woman will be attracted to a man who is detached and doesn’t need her. The increasing lucidity and detachment which comes from meditative practice creates a sort of metaphysical polarity which stirs and arouses the feminine principle within oneself. Incidentally, this is exactly why I originally noted that it is dangerous to engage in Kundalini practices when you are not grounded in a stabilising masculine energy. What happens to people who engage in this practice unpreparedly is that the feminine Kundalini energy forces it’s way up the spine and accumulates in the head which can cause extreme discomfort, and because they lack preparation they are unable to do anything about it and the effects can be disastrous. This reminds me of something I forgot to mention above. It would be very useful for anyone working with Kundalini to have a good understanding of the principles of polarity and balance. This is actually an extremely rich and complex area because there are so many different levels and areas of life (and more-than-life!) to be harmonised simultaneously. It might sound a bit odd but I think for me it was useful that I had many years of experience as a musician before getting involved in Kundalini: after all, music is essentially composed of consonance and dissonance and tension and release, the task of the composer being to harmonise these into a beautiful whole. Additionally, I think I might have overstated the difficulty of engaging safely in these practises today. In a way, the present time is a very opportune one. There is more information than ever readily available to anybody who needs it and residual spiritual influences are likely to guide the serious seeker towards the appropriate material for their growth. However, every so often you will come across somebody saying how Kundalini has ruined their lives so it is always best to proceed with caution. -
Oeaohoo replied to integration journey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Aimblack My sense is that, unfortunately, for most people today the only real option is to throw yourself in at the deep end and deal with whatever issues emerge as they do. Even if there were a hearty supply of fully-realised Gurus today offering initiation into the path of the Fire Snake, nobody would be willing to practice the kind of selfless commitment and radical dedication to another person that such a context demanded. I’m sorry if this sounds hopelessly nostalgic or like a naive and romanticised portrait of the past, but it is what I strongly believe to be the reality. The trouble is that the practices of Kundalini Yoga are designed to heighten sensitivity and awaken within the body itself a liberating and burning fire of transcendence. Any remaining complexes or human attachments (samskaras) will be drastically inflated by this process, making them now much harder to overcome and much more dangerous. Remember that Kundalini and even the general Tantric model of the subtle body (Chakras, Ida and Pingala, the Nadis) were highly secret teachings. I would say that anybody interested in Kundalini Yoga should not start the journey until they have a fairly steady understanding that they are living in a dream whose ultimate purpose is to awaken out of. They should be relatively stable and non-reactive with a meditative and contemplative temperament. Most importantly, they must understand that they are essentially doing when practising Kundalini Yoga is taking their ordinary experience and amplifying it exponentially. Everything which is ugly about you will also seek to be amplified! I hope I don’t sound melodramatic; in a way, these are just the requirements for engaging with any spiritual path. I hope this answers your question! It is worth pointing out that my path has been rather heterodox and combined numerous different elements. Someone else on here might be able to speak more precisely about Kundalini specifically. Personally, I had already been on the spiritual path for a few years and had a single awakening to God as Divine Love before I started practising Kundalini Yoga. It is only a vain personal digression but in a way my whole life felt like a preparation for the awakening of Kundalini. It is possible that the practitioner will be called to the practice when they are ready for it. For example, I have always liked music with an evocative and liberating character. This Sonata by my favourite composer Scriabin very much captures the feeling of Kundalini moving through the body: -
Oeaohoo replied to Preety_India's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Preety_India You are unable to understand hate because you are a highly empathetic person. I understand hate very easily because I do not have much empathy with people! You are failing to see that hate is really an expression of love. When I hate somebody it is always because I love something else. For example, if I am trying to convince someone of something that I believe and they are stubbornly resisting me. This makes me feel hate towards them but it is really an expression of love towards my beliefs (the word belief comes from the root leabh, to love or to hold dear). Forgive me if I say that the hate I have just described is more of a masculine form of hate. For women it is probably more something like: “I hate somebody because they haven’t been the right sort of friend to me” (in this case, hate is a love for the right sort of friend), “I hate somebody because they ruined my life by doing something horrible” (in this case, hate is a love for an idea of what your life would have been without the horrible thing that the other person did), and so on. Hate is always an expression of love because everything is an expression of Love. Spirituality is not about being the perfect person right here and now. It is about consciously setting as your ultimate ideals Truth and Love and gradually working through the ways in which you fall short of that ideal. -
Oeaohoo replied to iboughtleosbooklist's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think he removed his latest solipsism video for precisely this reason. When has Leo ever told you you’re an NPC? You are the Player himself! Other people do have their own consciousness. It is the same consciousness as yours. It is just consciousness. How could consciousness ever belong to any body? Haha, you are upset about solipsism because now you are only trolling yourself? Bummer! I sense that this itself is a troll. Quite a funny one I might add! -
Oeaohoo replied to Preety_India's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Of course… So is holding grudges! Spiritual refinement is a process of letting go of the limited human identity. That doesn’t mean that you can’t be human on the way. In fact, by definition, for us humans the human level is always the starting point for the journey back to God. -
A beautiful description! Maybe we don’t disagree so much after all as this is exactly how it seems to me. I just see it as an exhausted and decrepit mankind being forced back towards the Light from which it originated. I was thinking about our previous discussion about progress and Spiral Dynamics. Spiral Dynamics is a fairly accurate model in terms of describing a development in the complexity of human organisation. However, it is very obvious that every development in complexity comes at the cost of a loss in simplicity. I would say that simplicity is a higher value than complexity. After all, the truth is simple: everything is God. What else do you need to know? Society becoming more complex just means that it is becoming a more complex distraction from God. Today, society has become so complex that most people have forgotten about God altogether!
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Oeaohoo replied to Preety_India's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ironically, this feels like a passive aggressive jibe at somebody (or even everybody)! Yes, no person who is fully awake will be able to hold anything, let alone a grudge. In a way, though, the grudges that people do hold are also part of the path towards the dissolution of their identity. After all, a grudge negatively effects the person holding it much more than the person who is it’s victim. That is why it is an excellent phrase, to hold a grudge. It is you that holds it. Remember what the Buddha said when someone was getting angry with him: -
Oeaohoo replied to Vibroverse's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes that is basically what I mean. Only that which is grounded in meaninglessness can fully explore the infinite variety of meaning. Technically speaking, you are the only thing which doesn’t exist. To exist means to stand out, to be apart, to take a stand. God is that which everything else stands out from. God is the only Reality and the only thing which doesn’t exist! -
I understand why you would say this but this is actually not the case. The masculine principle is impotent without the feminine. Masculinity is assertion, direction and will; if there is nothing for it to direct or assert itself upon, however, it is impotent. The feminine principle provides the potency of existence and the masculine principle actualises it. That is why the alchemists metaphorically referred to the male seed as the “Living Eve”. This is also why women without an animating male principle in their life will often just sort of marinate in themselves in a sort of directionless abundance of energy. It is potency without actuality. It is also why men without a grounding feminine principle will have all sorts of big ideas but they will all amount to nothing. I agree though that this is perhaps not the best word to convey this meaning. The concept of Power conceived as the religious terms Shakti, Sekhmet (she-who-is-powerful) and Shekinah (Divine Glory) captures this idea better. Yes, social constructivism and postmodern culture is a sort of organised insanity. Maybe that’s why they are always accusing people of “gaslighting” them! To be more charitable, you could say it is the misapplication of advanced truths by people who have not been adequately prepared to receive them. After all, there is a sense in which all identities and all of reality is constructed: it is not a social sense, however, but a metaphysical one! Your point about social security made me wonder: maybe that is why “Stage Green” postmodernism is in love with the welfare state and socialised healthcare. They need these things to prop up their ideology which is alienated from reality. This society is becoming like one big crazy collective who needs their social security to survive! Well, of course that’s how any given society defines insanity! But what if the society or the consensus is itself insane? As is the case today. That definition of insanity seems to be subtly nihilistic in the sense that it denies that there is really a truth to the situation. A sound definition of sanity must involve being in relative conformity to the truth and not just to society. Absolutely! If anything, it has to do with love.
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Oeaohoo replied to Someone here's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Not really, people have been attempting this for centuries now. The Theosophical and Anthroposophical societies, Ken Wilber’s Integral Theory, Guénonian Traditionalism (which claims that all religions are derived from an original Primordial tradition, see particularly Frithjof Schuon’s The Transcendent Unity of Religions), and many other movements have sought to integrate or “cherry pick” the religious material that remains today into a new and cohesive whole. These movements had precursors such as Nicholas von Cusa from at least as far back as the Renaissance. Christianity itself emerged out of a very syncretistic context: it inherited stylistic and architectural elements from Rome, it’s morally dualistic metaphysics from Zoroastrianism, the emphasis on devotion and submission from the “pagan” Great Mother cults of North Africa, mythological themes from Osirified Egypt and of course many elements from the Semitic world. The early Fathers spent many years debating and even occasionally slaughtering each other to establish which of these elements would be included in official Church doctrine. -
Oeaohoo replied to integration journey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Kundalini Yoga is any form of spiritual practice whose aim is union with God through the awakening of Kundalini, the coiled one at the base of spine who is the goddess Shakti. Kundalini can be very dangerous if one has not already attained the immutability and unshakeable stability of the masculine principle who in this context is the god Shiva. The intention of Kundalini Yoga is firstly to awaken this feminine radiance and then to facilitate its unfurling through the energy centres of the body until the two principles of Shiva and Shakti meet in blissful union at the Ajna-Chakra. Beyond this is the Sahasrara-Chakra or the Thousand-Petalled Lotus which however is not really part of the subtle body. Kriya Yoga combines various forms of breath-work (pranayama), hand and body gestures (mudra) and chanting (mantra) to gradually divert and pacify the usual mental processes and attain mastery over the subtle body. Particular emphasis is sometimes put on the “breathless state” which occurs when one has attained sufficient control of one’s breathing to go without breath for a certain time. It is worth bearing in mind in researching them that both forms of Yoga have been somewhat corrupted by interaction with the modern world. Kundalini Yoga in general discourse today refers to the teachings of the Sikh guru Yogi Bhajan, which are very much a personal interpolation based on earlier sources, whilst Kriya Yoga was popularised and dumbed down by Yogananda. I personally practised Yogi Bhajan’s Kundalini Yoga for a couple of years and found it to be very effective but quite destabilising. In a way, the difference between them is like the difference between the “dry” and “wet” paths of alchemy. For example, the main type of breathing in Kundalini Yoga (the wet path) is the Breath of Fire, an intense and rapid breathing pattern, whereas Kriya Yoga (the dry path) seeks to gradually still the breathe to silence. Though they are somewhat antithetical in their application, the end goal is of course the same: the union of man with God. If you were feeling brave and explorative you could try mixing them together, using Kundalini practices to awaken the divine fire of liberation and using Kriya to still the mind and master your mind and breathing. Just remember that you are playing with fire! -
Many other teachers throughout history have taught the value of the body! Tantra itself is a lineage going back at least a millennia. How else could all the bodily forms of yoga have emerged? However, even the texts of Tantra say that the body has to be emphasised today because people have lost contact with their divine nature and become overly identified with the body. In a way, the spiritual escapism and hatred of the body that is prevalent in spiritual circles is actually a product of people today being overly identified with the body. This identification is a hindrance which could divert the spiritual path; then again, repressing bodily impulses could also do this! OSHO cited as his favourite book Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Nietzsche. Zarathustra speaks very persuasively about remaining true to the earth and not believing those who talk to you of super-earthly hopes and about loving the body as opposed to the “afterworldsmen” and the “preachers of death”. OSHO’s books on Tantra also deal mostly with the texts of Saraha, a Tantric adept of the 8th century who taught the path of using the body to transcend the body. The body is not all you have. If all you have is the body you should be freaking out! The body is going to die soon…
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Oeaohoo replied to Vibroverse's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thanks for sharing a very direct statement of truth. This is a subtle bias that I see in a lot of people who are on the path of mind-altering drugs. One of the ways we could conceptualise a psychedelic is as a chemical which temporarily and radically alters your sense of meaning. It makes sense then that such an experience would leave one with the impression that all is ultimately meaningless. I would prefer to say that existence is the love-child of meaning and meaninglessness. That being said, your statement that “existence is the absolute meaninglessness” is in a way more powerful because we tend to be more attached to meaning than meaninglessness. Then again, some people like their nihilism! -
Sorry, the bit about you appealing to the authority of Spiral Dynamics was just a little joke! I didn’t mean it too seriously. I have laid out my case and made many arguments so I don’t think it is fair to say I am just running around in circles. I share your deconstructive and debating nature so I could probably go back and forth on this for hours, but - though I think this is all relevant to the original subject - given that this is supposed to be a thread of Leo’s best videos I think we should leave it here. I’d be happy to discuss this more elsewhere with you if you like. This is another of Leo’s better videos. A rediscovery of Empedocles’ teaching of Love and Strife!
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Oeaohoo replied to Someone here's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
The only real religion is Truth, Consciousness, Love and an infinite testing-ground and play-ground. Every religion starts off as a potent symbol of this reality but gradually deteriorates through consecutive stages of involution. The ideas within religion are not “toxic”, they only become so when they are used for purposes which have deviated from their original intention, and people have been making abundant use of them for thousands of years. Given that no religion seems to be driving many people towards these things, you are probably right that we need a new one! Interestingly, the word religion is derived from the words re-lig-o, which means “to join back together” or “to reconnect”. Generally this is interpreted as a reconnecting of man and God, the creature and the Creator, but we could also understand it as the reconnection of man with his fellow man. This would fit with your idea that a new religion could unite the world. Personally I think we are already witnessing the emergence of the new global religion. The only trouble is that it is Satanism! It is an inverted counter-tradition which emphasises totally paradoxical values: collective solipsism, individual agency and collective victimhood, total fragmentation under the sign of “one world” and “one love”, rights without responsibility, enclosure and security without walls and borders, and so on. The religion has a mantra: “I want to have my cake and eat it”! -
Stage Blue (which is about much more than just authority), and particularly Christianity, are fit for the death of humanity because like you say they emphasise stale authority and conformity. After all, children hate conforming to stifling rules and regulations! It is senile old farts who like to do everything by the book; Christianity just allowed them to do it by the Book! It is absurd to me that Stage Blue belongs to the pre-individualised childhood of humanity: even according to “ma science”, humanity had already been around for hundreds of thousands of years before Stage Blue emerged! Materialism is like rigor mortis because once the spiritually animating principle has departed (God in the Christian context) all that is left is the physical body. The so-called advances in philosophy since the Renaissance have basically just been progressive phases in the realisation that God (in the Christian sense and as the spiritual principle which used to animate such societies) is dead. These are the various Stage Orange ideologies of materialism which have been accompanied by the general expanse of the mercantile machine of production-and-consumption. It is just like a body in which the soul and spirit has departed. Relativism, deconstruction and anti-logocentrism are like the body decomposing because they are a denial of survival and the necessity of difference and distinction. Isn’t defunding the police just like the immune system finally giving in? Isn’t open borders just like the cell walls collapsing? Isn’t the proliferation of anarchy and chaos within Stage Green just like the diseases which invade the dying body? The contrast within Stage Green between a superficial “love” and “unity” and the actual situation of putrescent inequality and exploitation is also very much like the body rotting beneath the surface of the skin. Finally, the new-age spiritualism of Tier 2 is like the final evaporation of the body because it is a compensating retreat away from the accretions of materialism towards the spiritual. Seeing the one-sided and limited nature of the new “earth-bound” and materialised world order, more and more people are drawn to shift off this earthly coil and escape to a new world of psychedelic phantasms, neo-Advaitan non-dualisms, Shamanic escapades, pagan cult revivals, occult deliriums and so on ad nauseam, whilst the majority devolve into a form of existence which is entirely collective and truly sub-human. This is exactly like the paths that are available to the human being in death: either to escape the wheel of existence for good (which is what a few people will manage to do through these new-age experiments) or to dissolve back into the collective substance for a further reincarnation (which is what the overwhelming majority are doing). This model fits the reality much better than some Spiral Progress nonsense! A very ironic appeal to authority! I agree that human history is a reflection of the individual human on a massive scale. Like the ancient Corpus Hermeticum says: “As above, so below”. Yes I should have worded this better. What you are describing would be a postmodern sort of argument, “every analogy is equally valid”, which is not what was intended.
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I do realise it because I am not against authority and control. If one believes oneself to be speaking truthfully it is only natural that ones words should convey a certain authority. Everybody is sovereign but some are more sovereign than others. Many people can only attain to the true expression of their sovereignty by serving a higher authority. I have spent the last few years doing practically nothing but study history. I have no friends or social life because of it. So shove this up your ass! True creativity has little to do with thinking outside the box. This is all creativity in the modern, profane and desecrated sense: creativity as a frantic pursuit of innovation, change and progress all as a race to the end (or more likely, the bottom)… Today there isn’t even a box to think outside of! Postmodernism has destroyed the box. Think how many depictions of the Virgin Mary alone there have been within Christian iconography. True creativity is an application of the essential principles of existence within a given domain; these principles are inexhaustible and indefinitely expansive so that there is no limit to creativity even within the box. This is another of the modern myths: the great thinker and innovator at odds with the stifling conventions of conformist society. This myth finds its early heroes in Socrates, Christ and the martyrs of late antiquity, then conveniently skips a thousand years to Giordano Bruno and the other Renaissance heretics. From then onwards a slew of “geniuses” have emerged in every field (particularly the secular sciences) only to be ignored or persecuted in life and celebrated only in death. Notice however that all of these people belonged to the destructive phase of their civilisation: Socrates and Christ to the destruction of antiquity and post-Renaissance thinkers to the destruction of Christian Europe. They were only ignored because people around them didn’t want to know that their society was falling apart. Speaking of which… I notice you never actually respond to my arguments but just move on to something else. Typical evasive Orange-Green! Maybe you are just afraid of authority. Become too liberal and you also die! The “too” part is what is important here…
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Even according to Spiral Progress, you can’t just jettison a whole stage of human development. The Spiral Dynamics website claims that Stage Blue has been around for 10,000 years and you want to jettison all of this traditional wisdom because “what about ma slavery tho”! Affirmative Action is a peculiar one because it is superficially Green but I agree with you that it’s real effect is to enforce Blue conformity and dependency. Everybody’s vision is limited; some more than others… This analogy with human development can be applied however you want it to. For example, I would say that Stage Blue Christianity was a religion fit for the old age and death of mankind. Stage Orange materialism is equivalent to the hardening (vigor mortis, the “stiffness of death”) which sets in when the body dies, Stage Green is equivalent to the final failure of the immune and blood systems and the decomposition of the bodily structures, and Tier 2 new-age spiritualism is the equivalent of the final evaporation of the body back into the atmosphere. In fact, it is Spiral Progress which does not map onto human life: every human being starts off fresh and full of life and gradually falls apart into senility and decrepitude. Even if you don’t agree with all of this, it is clear that the analogy to the development of the human being can be applied in various ways. What are you talking about? “Stage Blue” civilisations demonstrate a degree of creativity which is unimaginable today. In traditional architecture every detail is handcrafted to perfection and imbued with personality, depth and meaning; compare that to the mass-produced brutalist architecture of today. Even within a narrow genre of art such as the chivalrous literature of the High Middle Ages one can see tremendous creative application. The difference between all this and the “creativity” of today is that this was a bounded creativity, integrated into a higher context and fecundated with the essential principles without which creativity can only be profane and conceited self-expression. The vain-mannered creativity which has been exalted in modern times has already exhausted itself as it was destined to do because it lacks true principles and an appropriate metaphysical context. A trip to your local postmodern art gallery should be able to confirm just what kind of “creativity” has been unleashed today! And there he is: Prometheus Unbound in defiance against Zeus and Lucifer in revolt against God because it is “better to rule in hell than to serve in Heaven”! The rebel is certainly the god of our times… Of course rebellion against authority has its place but that place is rebellion against corrupt authority. Corruption, not authority, is the problem. All of this is true but you could just as well say that “all things must pass”. No reason to construe it through the lens of Spiral Progress. I am only defending Stage Blue because I think it is very much neglected in certain circles. I agree with you that there is no going back and that the only way to move forward is to burn through the current chaos.
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I have demonstrated that it isn’t but OK. Breakdown of the family is a result of Blue? By that logic he would have to be against all later stages. Aren’t you supposed to “transcend and include”? All this Spiral Progress is rubbish anyway, Orange and Green are just later stages of decay. Heaven forbid there be authority in this world! I would go so far as to say that there is very little pure Stage Blue in America. What remains of it is extremely degraded and is forced to become silly and one-sided in order to defend itself from the onslaught of later stages, like the Biblical literalism that people poke fun at which is really an attempt to defend Christianity from stage Orange scientism. This could even be said of the most extreme manifestations of Blue, like early Puritanism which was an attempt to save Christianity both from the emergence of modern secular thought and the perceived corruption within Catholicism. Because of this, American conservatism/republicanism (both of which are also mostly not Blue but Orange) provides the perfect straw-man and scapegoat for the progressive wing of America to feel justified in over-turning not only their own but all of the world’s “overly authoritative” traditions! Even Republicans think in this way: “They hate us for our freedom”… After all, the American Constitution itself is a definitively Orange document.
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I didn’t say the bias was unwarranted but it is still a bias! It’s not even a criticism of Actualised because like you are saying it is probably an appropriate response to a given context. I want to break free from all contexts and get to what is eternally true. Not all of those things are a symptom of Blue anyway. Overweight is facilitated through Orange exploitation of natural resources, use of GMOs and pesticides and so on, in debt could be all sorts of things (could be lack of Blue discipline and order!), wage slavery is also very Orange (and could even be Green failure to take initiative), breakdown in the family is obviously not Blue… Are we still talking about the same thing? Rise in mental illness could be Orange superficiality or even result of Green deconstruction of the frameworks which kept people on track in life, rise in feelings of distrust in government is motivated by all sorts of things and the government is by no means exclusively Blue (the present US government is superficially Green and Blue but mostly Orange). Even weapons and shootings are a mixture of Orange and Blue.
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That’s an interesting idea. Do you think that the purpose of AI in the greater scheme of things is as a sort of divine purge of the inferior aspects of the present humanity? (Sounds rather “fascistic” to me!) Aurobindo’s model actually derives the lower from the higher as I do: ‘Psychoanalysts look from down up and explain the higher lights by the lower obscurities; but the foundation of these things is above and not below... The superconscient, not the subconscient, is the true foundation of things. The significance of the lotus is not to be found by analyzing the secrets of the mud from which it grows here; its secret is to be found in the heavenly archetype of the lotus that blooms for ever in the Light above... you must know the whole before you can know the part and the highest before you can truly understand the lowest.’ This is from his book Bases of Yoga. The darker dimension of Progress, like it! No finite thing could ever have infinite intelligence and AI will always be a finite thing; by definition, because AI excludes all that which is not AI. Therefore, AI could never become God or possess infinite intelligence. Given that, your latter suggestion seems more likely. Another false idol for our contemporaries to worship! Yes! I just find it significant that today Stage Blue always has to be filtered and neutralised through the lens of later stages.
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If you go to his YouTube channel and keep scrolling back you should be able to find his pre-fame lectures. He is a very exhausted Kermit the Frog nowadays and his political talking points are even more worn out than they were when he was originally making them. Leo recently posted his Bible series on his blog so, if you want to hear the Bible reduced and profaned to the tune of Jungian “archetypes of the collective unconscious” and Piagetian developmental models, maybe you could start there! I know what you mean but such things can be useful to some people… Like Genesis said, “you have to get in to get out”!
