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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism You’re probably right. Obviously, I’m being one-sided and hyperbolic. I am only doing so because, like Leo, a lot of people here seem to esteem him much too highly. Even if the things he talks about are of some interest and value, it strikes me that their real value is not practical but idealistic. There is never going to be any Game B society: like the user Devin has tried to show above, it is a total pipe-dream. To the extent that anyone believes that this is what is coming, they deserve a bit of mockery. However, perhaps it is like what Plato said when people were criticising his Republic for being too idealistic:

Whether or not he has some vague and woolly conception of everything being interconnected and part of one “meta-mind” (that would probably be his expression!), it is obvious that his proscriptions for society are essentially human-oriented.

I don’t see it as just frivolous nonsense. This parody gets to the heart of things that are deeply questionable about the leader of this forum’s teachings. Besides, someone who quotes RuPaul and thinks Justin Trudeau is a good leader has no right to tell anyone else to stop the nonsense! We’ve spoken plenty! Even if you and a few others maybe take me somewhat seriously, it is not much compared to Leo’s following. Given the obvious absurdity, which I have tried to demonstrate above, of a great deal of his mentality and what he preaches, a few of us poking holes in it from time to time seems warranted. Like most people today, however, he is such a narcissist that he can only interpret it as “toxic gaslighting”!

What difference does that make? I have such little influence within this society - if there even are societies to speak of today - that my prescription might as well be that everyone can exchange their old car for a unicorn and live on nutrition-enriched air alone! The same could be said for Schmachtenberger… Thinking on it, the main issue I have with him is that he seems to believe in the possibility of a “man-made” society. I don’t believe that a man-made society has ever existed or that it ever could: societies are created by God, preserved by God and ultimately destroyed by God. Of course, spokesmen for the cynical and truly nihilistic modern mentality will say: “Nonsense! Society is just human monkey business! There was no revelation or divine ordination and consecration in the past! That was all just a primitive superstitious fantasy which our modern, progressive and enlightened state has overcome”. So be it! Such people only say such things because the only business they are capable of is monkey business. It is so funny that people around here talk all the time about the “non-duality” of God, the “transcendent becoming imminent and the imminent becoming transcendent”, “emptiness being form and form being emptiness”, and all the other Greatest Hits of the New Age parrot choir. Yet the idea of Revelation or of a society being ordered by and around God is as absurd to them as Fascism or Jihad. Truly bizarre!

The difference is that nobody takes me seriously!

The perfect satire of Schmachtenberger and all of his kind:

How do people awaken? In all sorts of ways. Ideally, and ordinarily in prior times, through a mastery of some spiritual discipline. In most cases today, separation makes people miserable and they start looking for a way out of their misery. They grow in separation simply because time itself is a movement away from the original manifestation of the world out of consciousness. As time goes on, the memory of this origin becomes more distant. You don't have to take my word for it: what else did Plato mean when he said that all real understanding is remembering? The process that I have described is essentially that which every religion describes, albeit with certain variations and adaptations given the specific time and place. The end of time is the point at which the world is no longer serving any purpose. The salt has lost it's saltiness and so on... The world at this point is withdrawn back into pure consciousness and created anew. This process repeats itself indefinitely. When they finally wake up? Like you said, consciousness has realised itself and they collapse into Oneness!

This earth and this society. Organised degeneracy on a global scale. That is comparable to hell!

How on earth is that equivalent to nihilism?

In hell, Schmachtenberger chooses to analyse the flames; I choose to try to wake whoever I can up before getting the hell out of here!

Of course but these two phenomena really go together: a dumbed down mainstream culture and an overly "nuanced" crowd analysing it from the sidelines. Both of them "miss the boat"! Hell on earth. Mistaking itself for a new Heaven... Of course they don't! They are too "nuanced" for that... This is exactly what I mean. These people are such spineless effeminate molluscs that they lack the capacity to ever stand up for anything. Just a bunch of cosmopolitan intellectuals convincing themselves that they are saving the world simply by analysing its destruction!

I was just pointing out a way in which they are the same: mentally masturbating so as to avoid the obvious reality that confronts them. Obviously they are very different thinkers in other ways. Not obvious, to the spiritually blind... You know that Al-Dajjal, the Islamic Antichrist, is one-eyed? He only has an eye for the material dimension. Only a one-eyed man could fail to see contemporary civilisation for what it is! Probably not. Then again, even if he ultimately failed, Nietzsche was one of the last philosophers with the capacity for a holistic vision. The problem with people like Schmachtenberger is that they are so addicted to their compartmentalised and "nuanced" worldview that they fail to ever look upon reality with a complete and unwavering gaze. You yourself have described his work as "analysis". Do you think that mere analysis will cut it? At least Nietzsche understood the relevance of immanence and not just transcendence...

We were just playing around with rhyming phrases. Who knows, maybe Hegel had some deep experiences in his life. He probably did. Consciousness begins as itself; then it manifests a world of sentient beings who still remember and are connected with their divine origin; as time progresses, the distance between these creatures and their creator deepens and they forget who they really are; this process continues until, by the end of time, they have become completely lost in the dream of their separateness; at this point, consciousness realises itself once again and collapses everything back into Oneness. Those beings who had recognised their real nature within this cyclic process are liberated and do not return to limited and separate existence. The rest go round and round in this fashion until they finally wake up... This is the true vision of history. Anything else is "petty human bullshit"!

Things may be complex but what about the “one thing needful”? Have you noticed how all philosophers of the last hundred years or so use an extremely idiosyncratic, rarefied and abstruse vocabulary? Heidegger, Derrida, Foucault, Lacan... One has to study their works for months to have the slightest idea what they are on about. Why do you think this is? I think it is because the appropriate analysis of contemporary civilisation is so obvious that one has to create an elaborate system of thought so as not to see it for what it is! The obvious truth is that there is no Game B. Degeneracy has triumphed everywhere. All the nuance in the world is not going to be able to put all of this evil back inside Pandora's box. And do you remember the one evil which remained in Pandora's box after all the others had been unleashed? Hope. That is all these people are providing you with: false promises that team "nuance" is going to triumph over Satan himself...

Never mind that. To quote a much more profound man than the one above, the Italian esotericist Julius Evola: ‘His enemies claimed that Seth [the Egyptian God of destruction, chaos and foreigners who murdered his “good” brother Osiris] had abandoned his people, that he had confused them. But they couldn’t see beyond their noses. The confusion was in their heads. No, Seth had clear vision: you have to be a mischief maker in a society of idiots, of democrats, of molluscs. They of course will repay you with hatred, or indifference. Exile you to the wilderness of anonymity, to the desert of insignificance. They don’t realise they do you a favour. It is good being away from the riffraff! Seth had got it right. I could never have been a priest, not a priest of any monotheistic religion - my caste is warriors - but, a priest of Seth, perhaps…’ Thanks, sister. I think what bothers me most about these “intellectuals” is how neutered they are. They don’t call it neutered; they call it “nuance”! Isn’t it interesting that nuance is etymologically derived from the Latin word nubes, that is to say “a cloud, mist, vapor”? As what remains of our world slowly evaporates into the clouds of a tepid and bland universalism, it is only natural that an “intellectual” class would emerge who represent this trend; and that those who mistake this evaporation for “progress” would proceed to follow them… What really is “nuance”? The failure to have the courage of ones convictions; a retreat into the abstract realm of ideas, the peace and renewal that come from this being mistaken for “love” and “acceptance”; a tacit acquiescence to whatever are the current “terms of the debate”, and the vague sense of belonging that may come of this; exploring the endless ramifications of a certain set of logical axioms, and even being willing to play with other sets in the same way. What does any of this have to do with truth? Therefore, for those who would happily sing along to the French proverb “Tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner!” (To understand all is to forgive all!) I would repeat this passage of Nietzsche’s Antichrist:

Why thank you… Stop or you’ll make me blush!

Stage Beige. If only because it’s the only one that rhymes!

This guy is so lame. I’d never before seen anyone who has a head shoved so far up their ass that they have their head in the clouds! What are “Rebel Wisdom” rebelling against? The meta-attempt to destroy the foundations of sense-making in the neo-feudal exponential tech space? What a lot of rubbish.

Sam Harris: “It was a left-wing conspiracy to deny the presidency to Donald Trump. Absolutely, it was - but I think it was warranted.” (37 minutes) Steady on, Sam… Don’t give the game away so easily!

Hegel, he came before Nagel. He believed the future was better than the past: what a fable! He snuck in alchemical doctrine under the table. Schopenhauer labelled him a fraud and wondered if he was really able, to come up with anything more profound than a baby’s babble! He wasn’t disabled but he was rather ugly, nor did his dry dreary philosophy enable him to transcend the world of labels. He spoke about spirit without ever having seen it, he spoke about God without ever having been it. Still, at least he spoke about the State, before it was too late!

Indeed. Hegel talks about antiquated things like the State and civil society!

I've always enjoyed Schopenhauer and Nietzsche's hatred of almost everything German. I feel very much the same about the English...

Hegel died almost 200 years ago. I doubt his lectures are on YouTube... If they are, they might be a little fuzzy! They are published in book form. No. At least, not in the sense that this is generally meant. In this sense, evolution by natural selection is an attempt to explain all biological existence with reference to nature alone, excluding any explanation in terms of a "supernatural" or transcendent influence. This naturally emerged in the Victorian world of which Darwin was a product because that world was already more or less atheistic. Whilst it doesn't necessarily refute the idea that species adapt to their environment through processes of natural selection, it seems unspeakably obvious to me that there is a power at work in the natural world that is itself super-biological and supernatural. Even Hegel would not believe in an evolution conceived in these terms: in his philosophy, evolution does not occur through natural selection but through the action of Spirit as Consciousness and Will.

As is generally the case with modern philosophers, Hegel confounds certain profound truths with a vain and eccentric personal philosophy. The important parts of what you have quoted are really just restatements of eternal truths: the “absolute arbiter of things entirely unmoved by contingencies” is the Unmoved Mover of Aristotelian metaphysics; the spirit as Hegel describes it is essentially the Holy Spirit of Christianity, which is the feminine presence and driving power of God’s Will; the “latent germ of being” that he speaks of is the Hiranyagarbha (“World Egg”) of Hinduism; the completion and ultimate fulfilment of creation is the Pleroma (“Fullness”) of Gnosticism; and so on… To quote Ecclesiastes: “The eye never has enough of seeing, nor the ear its fill of hearing. What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun”! If you are interested, there is an excellent book on the influence of esoteric Christian doctrine on Hegel called Hegel and the Hermetic Tradition. The only difference between the ideas of Hegel and the traditional doctrines I have described above is that Hegel distorts them to fit in with the trending progressivist ideology of his time. History according to him is moving towards the freedom of consciousness. I don’t see much evidence for that personally; if anything, it seems to be moving towards the total enslavement of consciousness to power, passion and a merely material prosperity… The Stoic philosopher and slave Epictetus was more free in his consciousness than most people today! That being said, if we take “progress” to simply refer to the full unfoldment of the possibilities latent in the “germ of being” or “World Egg”, there is no problem.

Hahaha! It would certainly seem that way… But who knows, maybe “Dark Brandon” or Kamala Harris will pull some magical manoeuvres out of the works!