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@Preety_India Wow, I really relate to most of what you're saying, except for the fact that I'm not female I see presenting a different opinion/point of view, especially in a work context, as a positive thing. I see it as a way to consider alternate options and try to figure out the best course of action. But people are very hostile to me when I do this. They don't want to be open-minded at all about my suggestions and dismiss them as if they're stupid. People also don't take well to me trying to be open and authentic with them. They tend to reject most attempts I make at creating rapport. And I can even relate to what you said about being Indian. I'm not Indian myself and I don't live in the USA. But I'm an immigrant in the country that I live in and despite my best attempts to adapt and fit in, I still have different mannerisms and ways of speaking than the people who are native to that country. While being an immigrant is definitely not the only reason people treat me different, I feel that it does play a part.

I don't get this article 13 stuff. They've been scaring us with it since last summer and yet it keeps getting delayed. Tbh I cannot see a situation where we aren't able to use Youtube at all. Would lead to too much backlash. Youtube isn't just an information and news source, it's a large source of entertainment i.e. a sedative for the masses. Politicians like those.

Why do American progressives think UBI is a good idea? There have been experimental studies done with it and they've shown it doesn't work, most recently in Finland. I brought this topic up to a hardcore socialist acquaintance of mine (we both live in Europe) expecting an argument but he actually said that he's spoken with various economists and knows from them that it's a bad idea. Imo if the USA somehow manages to make UBI work it'll only be thanks to imperialism or some other kind of exploitation. It's not that I think people will be "lazy" if there's UBI. People will probably do things they genuinely value, but with no incentive to cater to wider society many people will end up doing things that don't bring enough benefit to anyone else. How many people on this forum would just sit at home meditating and contemplating if they had their basic needs taken care of? And yeah, that's great, but it's kind of exploitative of the people who will work to provide those needs. If the majority of manual jobs get automatized, then we can bring in UBI and have this utopia but at the moment this is nowhere near being the case (also having thousands of robots doing everything would be very energy expensive, we'd need to solve the clean energy problem first).

I know what you mean but it doesn't work in practice.

My doctor prescribed it yesterday for my obsessions. For anyone who has had experience with this drug, how did you find it?

I get the sense that the current Leo would never encourage something like that, lol.

Please watch the full video. I would like to hear what the women on this forum think of ARC's teachings.

Women have a poor understanding of why male attraction manifests the way it does.

You don't get what I said. There isn't just one type of attraction.

@Emerald You're talking about 2 different things though. "Guys are only attracted based on looks" applies for sex only. For a guy to want to be in a long-term relationship with a woman the attraction will need to be on a deeper level. So you're comparing male sexual attraction with female romantic attraction, which is apples and oranges.

Lol which is it, more men or more women? Countries like China and India definitely have more men due to selective birth control. The west has more women but I've heard many guys try to use that to imply that men have more value on the dating market and that women should be the ones doing the approaching. But the excess of women comes from their higher life expectancy - there's more elderly women than elderly men. So this stat has no bearing on the dating market. For people of reproductive age, the amount of men and women is for all intents and purposes equal.

If you were in orange or blue, Leo would be strongly encouraging you to empathize with other sentient beings and to get involved in this sort of activism.

There's quite a few examples here already that are below yellow.

@Emerald I know I'm not really a part of this conversation, but to be fair what you're doing does feel an awful lot like a high-pressure sales tactic. There are groups on both the right and the left who tout being uncompromising. Every political group with a strong opinion sees itself as the minority, as the victim. Unless you've got some statistics to back up your claims, I don't think it's fair to assume that centrists are any more susceptible to converting to the right than to the left. EDIT: For clarification, by minority here I mean minority in terms of political thought.

Yes, conservative men would consider themselves good fathers but would they be ok with leaving their children in the hands of another man? Probably not. They see themselves as upstanding family men while seeing a majority of other men as potential pedophiles. It's not hard to see how conservatism led to inequalities in divorce court in the first place. Though there are some feminists who say all men are rapists, which isn't helping either.

It's difficult to understand why she gets misrepresented and vilified so much. Her views are very reasonable. I think her anger is just a reaction to the hate she gets. However, I still believe men need their movement. @Emerald As you said yourself, feminists don't like to address divorce laws as a particular issue. Waiting for feminists to destroy the patriarchy and then waiting for that change to percolate through society is not option. Especially since laws getting more progressive in one area doesn't mean they'll get more progressive in another. For example, there are still some remnants of religion left in modern secular nations. Unless an issue is talked about enough for people to care, it's not going to change.

People are advocating drinking your own urine? Really?

@lmfao Damn, I don't think my mental state is that bad. Yeah, I see the problem, this is a crutch. But I've had this problem for years. It existed even at times when I was exercising regularly and when I was eating very healthy (and my current diet isn't too bad either). The only thing mentioned on this thread that I've never done is neurofeedback.

All he has been told in essence is that attraction is random and out of his control. How is it even possible to "use" that information for anything?

I feel Leo did a good job with it, it helped clear some of my misconceptions. Btw, I remember in one of the first videos on spiral dynamics Leo said that most people are two stages below where they think they are. Does this apply only to people's first impression after learning of spiral dynamics, or is it more common? Reflecting on that after the recent videos, it seems like a freaky rule.

If that's true then ascending to Green is not that difficult.

It's not so much the ideas of green I have a problem with, I can see where they are coming from with many of their points. It's their methods. Various green groups seem to be out of control, they're prepared to use as much violence as they can get away with to advance their agenda. Even if their agenda has some merit, the use of violence turns me off so much. However, someone like Bill Gates for example I can fully resonate with (from what I've seen).

@Emerald That's a very informative and comprehensive post, thank you.

@Scholar "Mostly yellow and partly green" - yellow is above green so wouldn't that make her more conscious? Or do you mean orange?