FindingPeace

This whole idea of 'failing' is what is causing so much neurosis in modern society. What is 'failure'? There is only experience in life. And from experience comes knowledge and understanding. If someone doesn't get the result that they set out to achieve, did they fail, or did they just learn how not to do it? Did they just gather knowledge that can be used to get better results next time around? To assume 'failure' is to assume that you only have one chance and now you've given up. In reality you have to keep on trying in life to obtain the results you want. To expect otherwise is to expect to much and be very naive. Sucess is a process, not a one-off activity with a single outcome. You don't 'fail' just because the first attempt did provide the anticipated outcome. That outcome is, in itself, just a part of the learning process that leads to success. Peope only fail because they set an expectation to succeed. Reality doesn't care what your expectations are. What will happen, will happen. You have to put in your best efforts and deal with the outcomes. Be ok with those outcomes, whatever they are and to use them as a learning process for your continuing endevours. A failure in itself can be seen as success in some cases. Especially if something valuable was learned from the process and the outcome. Failure is just another human concept. A judgment in accordance with your self agenda. Did the outcome serve your agenda or not? Therefore was it a success or a failure? How about veiwing an outcome as...an outcome? Without the agenda-biasing. That's a novel idea for people to take on.

This is the one statement that jumped out at me here. Everyone wants the fastest shortcut to the results that they are aiming for. Or another way to say this is that noone wants to put in the effort and patience to get genuine growth and genuine, quality, lasting results. This is the real question you were asking here - which option gives the fastest outcome. Neither option will give quick, genuine results, but they will give different results for different reasons. I tend to see this as a way of motivating oneself. Self-talk to motivate positve feelings and actions and get quicker results. However, in theory, this would not be necessary if there was a genuine motivation that comes from a healthy mindset. Which comes from the next point: Higher awareness, mindfulness and a clearer view on 'what is' will create more lasting and satisfying results, in time. The irony bieng that this path will likely change your outlook and hence the results you want in the first place. Basically, this path will result in more inner-peace and fulfillment with less external 'success' or 'acheivement'. Less external action.

I want to do a bit of a survey, the motives behind which I can't reveal just yet as I don't want to influence the results. But in the near future I will post the realisation and insight I had recently and the conclusion to the survey. I am interested to know how people see themselves in terms of what makes them 'them'. How do you define yourself? How do you define your own identity as a person? What aspects of your life do you take as a representation of the being that is 'you'? Another way to look at it is to ask what things, if taken away from you, would leave you feeling as though you had no identity? How do you self-reference to yourself? Fundamentally we all tend to build our lives around this identity that we perceive of ourselves so what is it that you are doing (or not doing) with your life to reinforce and impose this identity on to the world? You don't need to think too deeply in to this one. I'm not looking for philosophical answers or discussions. I'm only interested in your day-to-day perceptions of yourself and your own identity and how you project it outward to create your life. As an example you may suggest some of the following: Job or career, your house, where you live, your partner or spouse, family, friends, academic achievements, past history, future hopes and dreams, travels, material acquisitions, money, hobbies and interests, your name, your body shape, your hair colour, your choices and decisions… and so on. You get the idea. Many thanks in advance. I'll reveal all in due course.

This is a good point. Direct experience is limited to the confines of our senses. Which are unique to us. Other living beings sense the world differently. So absolute experiential truth is virtually impossible to obtain as experience, by its very nature, is subjective.

Judgment is neither good or bad. But it isn't largely a healthy thing, nor is it necessary. Let's make a distinction between judgment and preference. It is totally healthy in life to have preferences. To be inclined towards somethings and disinclined towards others. What these things are depends on our individual values But judgment is the imposition of those values on to the outer world. That isn't necessary. Preferences are internal and personal. They are about the individual. They are not about the rest of reality. To comparing reality it to personal values and then to label reality as eitehr 'good' (or inline with values) or 'bad' (or in opposition to values) may help you to make desicions in life, but fundamentally it closes off avenues of reality to you as well as creates a sense of dissonance whenever you encounter things in opposition. It compartmentalises reality. Just to add. It would be extremely difficult to stop judgment completely. But any amount that it can be minimized will have positive consequences on someone's life.

It is possible and there are plenty of people out there who don't judge to any significant degree. It's on a spectrum. Some people are compulsive judgers and others less so. Personally I've never really felt the need to judge. It just doesn't serve any pupose to me. In fact I generally dislike any forms of judgement, particularly towards people. It isn't necessary. I'm not perfect, I do at times catch myself making fairly trivial judgements. I became aware of this many years ago and wondered to myself what would happen if I just stopped doing it. Literally, if I felt a judgment comming on I would focus my attention away from it an see what happens. What did happen? Nothing. I mean nothing happened. Reality didn't change, Whether I made a judgment or not, reality was still the way it was. The thing I also noticed was that judgments only serve to make us feel worse. Never better. So by not doing it, I generally felt better about life. So why do we do it at all? Many reasons. Mostly because it's a way of diverting attention from looking inwards. It's easier to look outwards and take attention away from ourselves. It's a way of self-elevating our egos. A way of invalidating those things that we secretly want but don't or can't have - by judging it in a negative way we tell ourselves that we don't want it (when secretly we do). Or we judge to maintain our self-image and our ego. To be self-righteous. To protect our identity by drawing attention to those things that conflict with it. It's a way to avoid taking responsibility for creating a life for ourselves by looking outwardly at everything and everyone else. A form of procrastination. A form of defensiveness. We don't have to do it. If we spend more time concerning ourselves with our own life, being a creator and stop being so protective and defensive of our identities. I personally don't care what else goes on in the world, or what others are doing with themselves. it's their life and is of no consquence to me. And even if it is of consequence, it is what it is. Who am I to pass criticism or judgment? What right do I have? Who made me that important? Our opinions are our own. Reality doesn't care what they are. Neither does anyone else. They are fictions from our imagination. They have no intrinsic value or significance. At all. Whether we have an opinion or not bares no consequence on reality. So why waste our engery and emotions on them? At the end of the day, all a judgment is, is a comparison of our own self-agenda against the reality we percieve in front of us. And it's completely subjective and in the eye of the beholder. It has no bearing on reality. Try an experment. The next time you feel the need to judge, just see what happens if you let the thought go and move on. Notice the thought, accept the thought, then let it go. Carry on with your day. Do this for a whole day and notice the difference it makes. Be dismissive of your judgment, don't take them seriously. Just remind yourself that reality is what it is and does what it does, regardless of what you think of it. You are a part of reality. You do what you do and are the way you are. Do you want to be judged for that? Or do you want to be free to be yourself? Just like everything and everyone else does. Free of judgement. The bottom line is that the degree to which you are judgmental is directly related to the degree to which you are not taking responsibility for your own life and are passing that responsiblility outwards on to other people and circumstances. The more responsibility you take the less you need to judge. It becomes a non-issue.

There is only one choice in life - to accept or to deny. To 'deny' means to 'refuse to admit the truth or existance of'. To 'accept' means to 'come to recognise as valid or correct'. Reality is what it is and you are who and what you are. You deny the truth and spend your life running from it, or you can accept it. Fundamentally, acceptance is the only option. Denial of reality is just a mind game that takes a huge amount of effort to sustain. And it inevitably fails. The point is, that in order to generate genuine motivation you first have to accept all the facts. If you don't, then the best you can ever hope for is 'fake growth' - see Leo's video on that one. If you deny those things within you that might be better worked on, then all you will do is run and run and hide from those things, taking actions and making decisions that keep the illusion that they aren't real and don't exist. But in the backgorund they will always be there, just over your shoulder, causing that ever present sense of dissonance. Accepting those apects within you, and within everything and everyone around you, gives you a less neurotic and objective starting point to work from. Acceptance of reality, and of yourself, gives you an honest platform to base any improvement on. Acceptance is the first stage that comes before healthy, genuine growth. As has been said, you don't have to like, or live with the things that you accept. That's not what acceptance means. But it does mean noticing, admitting, and not criticising or judging them. It means being honest to yourself that they exist. Whether or not you like them, or whether or not they are healthy things. Once you've done this you can start the process of changing things that you think may benefit you to do so. Think of 'acceptance' as another word for 'being honest' or 'stop hiding from'. People mistake it for meaning 'it exists, therefore let it be and never take any action'. No. it means 'be honest and admit that it exists, face up to it, then decide what constructive action needs to be taken'.

You can directly experience that the earth isn't flat. Just get a telescope and look out to sea at the horizon. You can't see beyond it. The earth can't be flat or you would be able to see the land on the other side of the sea. You can also see that the horizon is curved from one side to the other.

No one damages your self-esteem. Only you can do that by buying in to what others think of you. There is a saying "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent". Your self-esteem is affected because you don't think well enough of yourself without the external validation of others. Define your self-esteem from within, by yourself. Define your own sense of self and sense of worth. Love yourself. It's not other people's job to do that for you. So what if others are disrespectful of you? This is real life, people are disrespectful. People are rude. People don't like you. People are difficult. But you don't have to engage with it. You can carry on regardless. Do your own thing, concentrate on yourself and your own life, not on what other's are doing or saying. You don't have to be reactive to it. It's of no real consequence to you what others think. You don't have to interract with them more than you need to. You don't have to listen to them. You don't have to behave like an ass back to them either. Just be yourself and get on with your life independently to them. Life is full of these people and these challenges. We have to be more accepting of them and carry on regardless, shifting our focus back on to ourselves and not on to the actions and behaviours of others or their thoughts of us.

The only way to 'get someone out of your head' is to focus your life on something else. You are fixating on this one subject and placing too much value on it. In other words, you are not placing enough value or focussing your attention on other areas of your life. If you are busy creating your own fulfilling life then there isn't time to dwell on these distractions and these things don't hold so much value to you.

Mindfulness and being present are two slightly different things. Being present I see as getting out of your head and in to the real world around you. Being aware. Not being caught up in your inner dialogue. Mindfulness is also being present, but it is also concerned with observing everything that is occuring in the present moment including your thoughts and feelings. So if you are worrying about past or future events, then that is happening and you can be mindful of it - in otherwords, notice it, don't judge it, or engage with it. Just notice that it is happening, along with everything else that is hapening around you. And notice that it is just a thought or a feeling.

The whole concepts of 'selfish' and 'selflessness' don't really work as they create a paradox. It could be said that the reciever of a selfless act is selfish by allowing someone to benefit them at the expense of the 'giver'. It's almost impossible not to act out of self-interest in life. It's a fact of life, quite literally. Life, by it's very nature is self-interested in it's own self-agenda - at the most simplistic level that being survival. Selfishness can be defined as acting in the interest of one's own self-agenda. Selflessness can be defined as acting not out of one's own agenda but for the sake of another person's. Although how can you decide to do a selfless act if it doesn't come from some sense of self-agenda in the first place? But if selfishness is acting out of one's own self-agenda, then to be on the recieving end of a selfless act must be in favour of the reciever's agenda. Which makes them selfish. Fundamenatlly the whole thing doesn't work. What I see are three scenarios: Someone acts in their own interest not at the expense of others but doesn't benefit others either. This is healthy 'selfishness'. Someone acts in their own interest and benefits others. This is also healthy. Someone acts in their own interests at the expense of others. This is the unhealthy behaviour. As long that we are acting from within the contexts of the first two then I see no problem. It is the 3rd context that causes the most suffering and dysfunction in life. Really we should drop the whole concepts of selfishness and selflessness as they can't really be resolved. It is better to adopt a strategy of 'do no harm to others' instead which negates the need to label things as selfish or selfless. The thing that interests me about ideas like this is that why would you choose to take action towards world hunger in the first place? Because, fundamentally, it serves your self-agenda. You wouldn't take action for the sake of it, You have to have a reason, and a reason comes from the self-agenda. Which, on some level makes it a self-interested act. There really are no actions we take in life that don't come from our own self-interests. No one would ever take action that serves no purpose to them. At the very least, the 'reward' for the action has to be a sense of validation or satisfaction. But validation and satisfaction are still self-interests. These are all human concepts at the end of the day. Look at animals. They only ever operate from a 'selfish' stand point. They have no interest in acting in the interests of others unless that action comes full circle to benefit them in some ultimate way.

Two things here. Firstly, pursuing enlightenment is not the answer to your problems right now. You're not ready for that and it you're not in a position to even do that right now. There are other things that need working on first. Secondly, the aim of meditation is not specifically to gain enlightenement - it can be a tool for that, but that's not it's primary purpose. Meditation, put simply, is an exercise that will help to calm your mind and your emotions. Which in turn will give you a clearer head to think with, make decision and take actions that are less neurotic and more appropriate to getting better results. It's a good tool to help relieve depression because as you practice it more you can get better at shifting your mental focus from negative self-destructive thoughts (that feed in to depression) towards the present moment and present circumstances. Best suggestion right now is to work through Leo's videos. Starting with ones like 'How to stop being a victim', 'Resposibility verses blame', 'how to stop caring what others think', 'how to stop judging yourself', 'self acceptance'. etc there's a huge list. If you like I can post links to the best ones that you should watch right now. Work your way through them and see if you gain some better perspectives and mind-shifts. What you need is to reframe your view on life, because currently it is stuck in 'deficiency mindset', so no matter where you look, all you see is more problems. This is only an illusion, but one that takes some real awareness to see through. But there are plenty of videos on Actualized.org that can help with this. Many people here, myself included, have experienced the benefits of these videos so I strongly recommend giving them a try. You're being pretty hard on yourself and judging and criticising yourself. You are letting others influence your self image. But understand that your life is yours and you own it. Noone else does. You're not here to cater to other people's expectations or to serve their agendas in any way. You are here for you. No matter what anyone else thinks or says. So cultivate your own sense of self and your own purpose in life. You can do this. Fuck what anyone else thinks. We all fall victim to other people's judgements and the expectations that they impose on us at times. Fuck 'em. We're not here to serve anyone else. And there are plenty of people in the world who will not judge or criticise you or make you feel bad about yourself. You're just not around those people right now. But they are out here. So try to learn how to detach from the opinions and judgments of others, and to stop caring what they think. Also try to either get away from these negative people or find more positive people to be around. Start with this one.

Point understoodand and taken here.

Positive steps here. It takes a lot to be honest about one's situation and admit it to themselves and it takes even more to come on a public forum to express it. There are plenty of people here you can talk to about this. This. There are plenty of listening ears here. In any case, you have taken the first step to moving on from this situation by being open and honest about it. You've already proved you do! You can get through this.

This really. 'Who' actually dies to be reincarnated? If we take the concept of no-self as the truth to our existential nature, then there is no 'you' to die or to be reincarnated. If all 'you' are is a field of awareness then there is no way to know if that field of awareness in the 'new' body is the same one that 'you' have, as a field of awareness has no identity in the first place, to make the comparison. It's really just another concept. When we can empirically prove that someone has been reincarnated, then it is known to be real. Until then, we can't assume it is real, but just another concept or belief in the human psyche.

How have you come to these figures? On what basis? Money isn't everything in life. Yes, you need money to live in comfort and security, but the exact figures you earn are less relevent as long as you have enough to live on. People get too fixated on money thinking it will secure their happiness in life. It doesn't. And the more you have the more protective you will be of it and the more stress it will cause you. Having a job. Get a secure job. Keep out of debt - this includes credit cards. If you use one, pay it off every month. Avoid taking 'offers' that banks and credit cards try to offer you. Everyone wants easy money and to get something for nothing now so that they can pay it off later. Don't do this. Avoid loans and mortgages. In other words, make enough money to live comfortably and only use what you have. Not what you don't. No, it isn't easy to do, but the closer you can get to it the more financially free and secure you will become. Financial independence is exactly that - independence. If you can afford to save and invest, do it. The more you can make money work for you the less you have to work for it. Not only does that give you more financial independence but it gives you more physical freedom aswel.

Not sure if this is a question or a statement. But here's a pertinent video on the subject in any case:

Ask yourself what your needs and expectations are in life. Your insecurities. What troubles you. What do you feel you can't live without. Then ask why you have these things, where they come from, how you can address them yourself. Reflect on your past, think about the now and consider the future. Questions will come up. Thoughts will come up. Anxieties, fear, worries, exitement. Notice and question the thoughts and feelings. Sometimes the object of the exercise is to notice things about yourself like I just listed, but not to necessarily try to find answers to them yet. The first stage is noticing things. Then, as time goes on those things will lead to questions and maybe realisations. A good way to help with introspection is to become more mindful. Become more aware of your thoughts and feelings throughout your daily life. As you do this you will naturally start to notice things and make realisations. Start to question your own thought processes and reactions to the world. Meditation is also a great way to get better at this. The more you turn inward on your own mind and watch what goes on in there the more your introspection will become second nature to you. It needn't be a specific 'exercise'. It can become a continuous process.

Take advantage of the holiday as an opportunity to relax, introspect, meditate and practice mindfulness. But don't turn it in to some formal exercise. Don't put pressure on yourself to do this.. or that. Go with the flow, take it easy and relax. Don't worry if you can't cram in all the things you might like to do. Putting pressure on yourself will only detract from the quality of the experience. Relax, introspect, meditate and practice mindfulness. Just 'be' and not worry so much about doing. Have a great time.

There's a difference between filling your time because you choose to verses filling your time because you feel you need to. Becomming obsessed with life-purpose can become just as much monkey business as the lower conscious stuff that other people engage in. It all comes down to why you are doing it and what you are hoping to achieve. Ultimately, you should be able to be comfortable with having time to spare in your life. Time to contemplate and introspect. Time to just be and not do. If you find yourself feeling uncomfortable when you have spare time then it would suggest that you are using your life 'purpose' as a distraction from actually living, so to speak. It's a sneaky irony. The ultimate life purpose is to become detached from the need to be doing anything at all, and to be comfortable with that. That's not to say that you shouldn't do anything, but when you have the freedom to choose to take action rather than feeling compelled to take action, you will take more constructive action and get better results. As opposed to taking neurotic action and effectively chasing your own ass throughout your life. Life-purpose can be considered 'play' but this is the point. It should be more of a relaxed choice rather than a desperate need. It's only 'play' when it isn't 'imposed' upon you by yourself or others. So what Leo is trying to teach in this video, is the concept of getting more comfortable with doing nothing and just being. And releasing the need to be doing anything at all, at least for a significant portion of your time. More emphasis on being and less on doing. You can still do, but find the time to not do as well. All the external action that is taken towards personal growth and success can, in itself, be just another distraction from actually living a meaingful life. You'll get better results and feel better about life when you come at it from a place that is not driven by the compulsion to be doing. By comming from a place where you are comfortable with not doing.

I've felt like this for most of my life. After 30 odd years I've yet to find anyone that I have been able to express and share my ideas and world veiws with, other than here on this forum. And it did feel lonely. I've actually always felt a compulsive need to share my ideas with others. But I've recently done a great deal of introspection on this issue to get to the root of it. Why do I need to express and discuss my ideas with other people? Why do I need their recognition? What happens if I don't do it or get it? I realised that there was this feeling inside that unless I express my thoughts and ideas that they are not valid. It is almost as if I don't exist unless I can impose myself on to the external world and become regonised. Why have thoughts and ideas if I can't share them? Who am I if I'm not noticed? The realisation I had was that my life doesn't stop just because other people don't notice, recognise or validate my thoughts, ideas and philiosophies. In fact it's of no real consequence to my own life whether people do or not. The point is that my ideas are my own, and I am my own person. I don't need validation for it, and I don't need to impose it on the world or other people. I can carry on and live out my life in my own way, with my own values and ideas. So what if noone is interested? So what if I take all my ideas to my grave and they never see the light of day? The solution is to become less fixated or interested in other people and what they do or don't think about your thoughts and ideas. Be more interested in yourself and how these thoughts and ideas can be of use to you personally. Build your own life in your own way. Nothing needs to be proven to anyone else, or recognised or validated by them. Recognise and value your own thoughts yourself. Yes this happens. As you out-grow the rest of the 'herd' a natural distance will grow between you and them. Those people who are still in the herd will try to hold you back because they won't understand what you are doing. They will think it 'weird'. People are afraid of what they don't understand, they will ridicule and criticise it, judge it, in order to invalidate it and therefore validate their own paths. It is easier for people to criticse those who are growing in life simply because it takes more effort and foresight to grow than not to grow. So people who don't want to make that effort will validate their current trajectories but invalidating or ignoring yours. Their lack of interest is actually more about them than it is about you. On the flip side, there may be people who will see your growth and become inspired by it. They will make themselves known to you and want in on your secret. They are the ones who you will be able to relate to. They're not so common, but they are out there. This forum is a great place if you want to share your thoughts and ideas because we're all here for the same reasons of personal growth. So as you grow there will be a natural distance between you and the 'others'. They may no longer be able to associate or relate to you, and they will continue to impose their less-developed mindsets on to you. So an element of detachment is necessary to stay on track with your own growth. At best, you can learn to be accepting of the other people, accept them for what and who they are and that they won't engage so closely with you and your growth, ideas, direction etc. So be it. You'll have to learn to be ok with this. Loneliness is not a real 'thing'. It is a state of mind. You feel lonely mainly because you are focussing too much on other people and not enough on yourself. You should be too busy creating your fulfilling life for yourself to have time to feel lonely. You're not completely comfortable with your own company. Why is this? Introspect. Not being a part of the crowd doesn't make you lonely. There is an emptiness or a neediness that needs to be addressed. It ultimately comes down to not taking enough responsibility for your own life. Not owning your life. Not focussing inwards and building your own personal life for yourself. That's not to say that you should be a hermit. But simply that you should be comfortable on your own, doing your own thing when you are not engaging with other people. Other people will come and go from your life, but you will always be you and in your own company. You are the only person in your life that you can rely on to always be there and be interested in your thoughts and ideas. It is your life, you are at the centre of it.

What are you stressing about? Are you so worried that if you don't hook her soon you'll loose her and miss out? And if so why? Why is she so significant? As you said, you barely know her. You don't even know if she would be good for you. You need to look in to this 'stress'. It sound like a desperate neediness to me. Which is often a result of lack of abundance. But something I would suggest introspecting on. Calm down, take your time, and breath. And let go of stressing about her. Things will either develop and work out, or they won't. But you have to be ok with that. Otherwise this 'stress' is going to start sabotaging things before it even gets going. Be ok with whatever happens. Get to know her and take your time.

What makes it an 'accident'? Definition: an event that happens by chance or that is without apparent or deliberate cause. They've stopped calling them 'accidents' here. No they are 'collisions'. Fundamentally, there are always causal factors to things happening. These causal factors can usually be controlled and elliminated. A car crash can almost always be avoided by people having more awareness and greater skills and judgement. They are rarely 'accidental'. Sure, noone intended it to happen, but was it some freak occurrance that was unforseen and unnavoidable? Probably not. So no, there are no 'accidents' in human life. Just lapses of judgment and lack of awareness, understanding and responsibility. All things that can be avoided. It's like people that buy a house on a known flood plain then act all shocked and surprised when one day the river floods and their house is washed away. Like it was some sort of 'freak event'. How could this possibily happen to them? The audacity of it. When you get in your car to drive somewhere do you ever considier the risk of the possibility of being involved in a crash enroute to your destination? Because those risks are inherently there as soon as you drive off. And do you consciously take steps to make sure that you avoid these risks? In fact that risk existed from the moment you got your driver's licence. It's not really an 'accident' because you chose to get in the car in the first place, knowing the risks. When you go out of your house, cross the road and get hit by a truck, you did choose to cross that road in the first place, so it's not exactly an accident that you were there, in the road. The same road that the truck was using. There are so many ways in which we are responsible for the events that happen to us in our lives. So many subtle ways. But ultimately everything comes back to our own choices and actions. There are no real 'accidents' just 'consequences' to our actions. If two people didn't get in their cars that day, they wouldn't have crashed in to one another. And just to add. This also applies to people who claim to be 'victims'. I once read a quote "There are no victims, only volunteers". This is true. Whether you are the victim of an 'accident', or of a dysfunctional or abusive relationship, whatever, you ultimately are responsible for being there, in that situation in the first place. We take on responsibilities and risks every day. We make choices that put us in these positions, every day. We just ignore the responsibilities, risks and consequences, and more often than not, we assum 'it won't happen to me, today', or even if it did it's always 'someone else's fault'.

Only humans define the 'laws'. And then we can come along and redefine the laws when we thinl we know better or differently. And sure, laws can be 'broken' because they were only a human concept in the first place. Just because we define some law of nature doesn't mean we truly understand nature, or that nature won't do something unexpected that breaks the 'law'. There are no laws in reality. Reality just 'is'. If we stopped trying to analyse it and understand it, if we didn't try to identify any laws, reality would carry on being reality. Reality isn't dependent on these 'laws' that we think we identify. Sure there are patterns in reality, patterns that our minds try to connect together and rationalise. But this all comes down to our compulisive need, as humans, to try to find 'meaning' and define 'laws' for everything around us. As if we actually have the cognitive abilities to even understand reality for what it really it. That's pretty arrogant and egotistical of us. We seem to assume that we can actually understand it. Why do we even need to? Like I said, reality will carry on being and doing what it is and does regardless of whether or not we impose laws, or see patterns or derive meaning and value from it. Reality just 'is' and jus 'does'. No laws, no value, no meaning. Those are human projections. Has anyone managed this yet? When someone does, then we see it as possible. Until it happens, we see it as not possible. Noone can say for sure whether it is or isn't possible. Just that noone has achieved it yet.