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I spent hours combing through Jordan Hall's interviews and talks to pin point exactly where his view is seriously mistaken. If you're not aware, he recently converted to Christianity and likes to make a very sophisticated articulation of a more evolved and mature form of Christianity. The idea being that the old Christian religion was just a big misunderstanding, and if you just do Christianity in the proper way, that will solve all of those problems. No. No it won't.
I respect Jordan's mind and intelligence very much, however, even his formulation of Christianity is still a very sophisticated and elaborate self-deception. He's so sophisticated and intelligent that it took me a long time to pin point the fatal error. But here it is distilled to a few sound bites:
Skip to timestamp 1:16:30 and watch till 1:18:30.
So, here's the problem with that:
- Jordan is looking for a human role-model to emulate to reach the highest truth, love, and goodness.
- Christianity appeals to Jordan for this very reason, because it offers him such a role-model in Christ.
- Christianity is a mind virus that convinces humans that they can access God through worship and emulation of Christ, a human avatar.
- Jordan says, "I can't really emulate a transcendent spirit". The truth is: You don't need to. You are God.
- Jordan says, "You can't draw a picture of that which is not incarnate." The truth is: You are the incarnation of God. Look in the mirror. There is your picture.
- Jordan says, "I can't come into a full and deep relationship with the father because I can't even perceive the father. I can't even imagine that. But with the son I can. So the son provides the interface that allows me to come into that level of full relationality, which is the path that orients me towards the father, which is the deepest principles of Truth, Good, Beauty." The truth is: Jordan is the father. Drop the Christian fantasy and Wake up to God. There is no interface to God. You are it. You don't need to imagine or perceive the father, you just need to realize that your perception IS the father.
- Jordan's mindset cannot lead to God-Realization because it otherizes God too much. God is taken as not oneself, which is the fundamental error of Christianity. You do not reach God through emulation of Christ, you reach God by realizing what God actually is, which is your own Mind re-collecting its absolute sovereignty.
- God is not something you emulate your way towards through good deeds, good community, good relationships, humility, etc. None of that will grant you consciousness of yourself. As long as you try to be Christ-like, you will not be God. You must realize that Christ is just a projection and construction of your Mind. This is exactly what Christianity will not allow you to do.
- Jordan ends by saying, "The religion which is not a religion after all." This is a profound error. Jordan's Christianity is still a religion, and suffers from the same problems as all religion does: human group-think. It is a human invention and self-deception, no matter how intelligent or how advanced and special you try to make it sound or how many mystical experiences you have. God has still not been realized.
- I am far from some Christ-like figure. But I do understand who understands God and who does not. Because I never got side-tracked chasing moral righteousness. Just Truth.
- You don't need to be Christ. You only need to realize you are God.
The point of this post is not to attack Jordan, it's to point out just how deep and sophisticated self-deception gets. These "meta-crisis", Game-B people do a lot of fancy talk, use a lot of fancy words, but in the end they will not realize God. Because even they, for all their elaborate jargon, do not have a serious enough understanding of epistemology, ontology, and Consciousness. So just beware, these are waters in which even the most advanced humans drown.
I hope you learn from this example, or you will end up like Jordan Hall. Lots of talk, lots of human relationship, lots of brilliant dialogos, but no ultimate understanding of God.
Once again, if you side with the human over the non-human, you will end up damned. The human is evil. The non-human is Good. You're siding with the wrong side!
I don't know how to make this any more clear or rigorous for you. I hope you get it. The entire Christian community is self-deception.
This is very good stuff:
“Latour’s metaphysics is utterly democratic. Atoms and quarks are real actors in the cosmos, but so are Fidel Castro, Houdini, and unicorns. We cannot declare a priori that some actors are more real than others; all we can say is that some are stronger than others. But this strength is never measured solely in the currency of human struggles for dominance, since animals, stars and brute subatomic matter are engaged in the struggle for reality no less than are Machiavellian cabals.” — Graham Harman
The problem with most ways humans do metaphysics is the gross human bias. They conceive of reality in a human-centric way. But surely you see that reality cannot be human-centric, it cannot have human biases. God must be unbiased in the same way that gravity must be unbiased. Gravity doesn't play favorites, it just pulls everything in equal direction. So a fundamental principle of proper epistemology, ontology, and sense-making is that your view must be totally unbaised if it seeks to reach ultimate understanding. This is why a bedrock principle of Actualized.org is to transcend human bias. In order to reach the highest levels of God-Realization we have to transcend our human-centric view of reality.
For example. it is absurdly biased to believe that planet Earth and the human race has some special and exclusive revelation of God via any human prophet, such as Christ or Muhammad. It cannot be the case that God sent his highest messenger to Earth, to humans. This is a cartoonishly human-centric way of thinking about God. Humans should be embarrassed to even claim such things when there are trillions of planets beyond Earth. Are we supposed to believe that trillions of planets are fucked just because a human (Christ) never appeared there? This is just an obvious example of human-centric bias. There are many more subtle examples throughout intellectual traditional.
But be careful. This does not mean that you should deny or reduce away the human perspective. The human side of this work needs to be honored and taken seriously too. But not at the expense of ultimate understanding! Do not cling to a human-centered ontology. Transcend it for the purposes of fully realizing God. Then you can descend down to the human domain and use God's lack of bias to clean up the human domain. The beauty of God is that it's totally unbiased. So don't dirty God with your human ideas. Instead, drop your human ideas, access God, then return to the human domain and use God's purity to clean up all the bullshit.
No matter how much they are told, humans insist on attaching their human bullshit to God. God is not your daddy. God does not care about you. God is not here to serve you. God is not here to grant you wishes and make you feel happy emotions. God does not even fit into the frame of human sanity. Get over all that human stuff. Reality is far too serious to be human.
Does a space rock care if it falls on your head? The only reason it hasn't is because you've been lucky, not because God cares about you.
God is so democratic that to God there is no difference between a human and a rat. Only the colossal arrogance and collective narcissism of mankind can believe that humans are better than rats.
This is the most profound and accurate philosophy that exists in the West. You can throw away all Western philosophy and just study this and you will be well-served.
When you truly comprehend the Intelligence animating biology — God becomes obvious.
Scientists think they understand biology. They are blind. The Intelligence powering your body is of such staggering genius, the combined IQ of every scientist who ever lived is not enough to appreciate it.
The Intelligence powering the human body is literally Divine.
God didn't create life. God IS life! You're looking at God:
Such blindness and ignorance from science. Just clueless.
And what about you? What are you using this miracle-biology for? Drinking? Partying? Cheating? Conspiracy theories? Religion? Greed, corruption, stupidity?
What devilry have you been using God's body for?