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Blog Video Summary: DPT — The Other God Molecule Here’s some info from the DPT Mega-Thread: Here are some good reference links: Psychonautwiki on DPT Erowid on DPT Bluelight.org on DPT Wikipedia on DPT Reddit on DPT In a Nutshell: DPT is for highly experienced users only. It's very powerful DPT can produce horrific trips for some people, so be careful The best way of taking DPT is plugged rectally DPT lasts 2.5hrs at least DPT does not dissolve well.  Just suspend it in your chosen liquid and plug Leo’s rectal doses are: Light: 20mg-30mg Medium: 30mg-40mg Heavy: 50mg+ Leo is very sensitive to all psychedelics so your doses may need to be higher. ________________________ (This episode was released on June 21, 2019.)          -DPT is more powerful than 5-MeO-DMT. It’s a beautiful, amazing substance.  Some of Leo’s deepest awakenings have come from DPT.          -DPT (aka: n,n-dipropyltryptamine) is a research chemical and a proper tryptamine.  It’s not nearly as well known as n,n-DMT or 5-MeO-DMT.  It’s easier to get than a lot of other psychedelics, but it’s not for newbies, so be very careful.          -There are many trip reports from people who’ve had terrible experiences because they used DPT improperly.  It’s been described as “the evil twin of DMT,” that it has a terrible body load or “it’s like snorting a row of haunted houses.”  You can read all about it on erowid and reddit.             -After reading all the bad trip reports, Leo wasn’t expecting DPT to produce such a beautiful and amazing trip.  The key is to start with small doses, then increase the dose by 5 mg on subsequent trips.          -DPT is only for experienced psychonauts and experienced spiritual seekers. It’s not something you do on a whim and it’s not for newbs.  Leo hasn't had any negative experiences on DPT, but this will mess up your shit if you lack a deep foundation in non-duality, spirituality and psychedelics.          -A deep trip on DPT will completely annihilate the self.  It will show you what it feels like to have never existed, which is why it’s freakier than a deep 5-MeO trip.                     How To Prepare for Advanced Psychedelics          -You’ll need a deep theoretical foundation and lots of trips under your belt.  However, it’s not enough to just have lots of trips.  A lot of people trip just to screw around and party, but they’re not necessarily at a high level of consciousness.          -You have to really want to contemplate what God is and what life is.  What is reality?  What is the self?  What is the other?  What is ego?  You’ve got to contemplate all that, ideally for years.  Read hundreds of books on those topics.  All that knowledge will ultimately come together, and when you combine it with psychedelics, responsibly, your trips will build and you'll go deeper and deeper into the Godhead.  You’ll peel back more layers of the onion until you experience the type of deep mystical awakenings that Leo describes on his channel.                     Dosages for DPT vs 5-MeO          -For Leo, a small threshold dose of DPT is 20mg.  A significant, breakthrough to non-duality dose is 40mg.  A super crazy breakthrough dose is 50mg.  That trip took Leo beyond what he was able to achieve on 5-MeO.          -You can't directly compare the dosages of DPT and 5-MeO. Literally comparing mg for mg isn’t a useful metric.  You have to find corresponding dosages for a breakthrough with each substance, and then compare the effects of the breakthrough dose.          -For Leo, DPT requires 40-50mg to have a full on breakthrough.  5-MeO requires 20-25mg.                         Routes of Administration          -If you plug DPT, it takes 15 mins to come on, which is twice as long at 5-MeO.  It can also be smoked and even taken orally, but it's not very active orally.  Leo recommends against smoking it or taking it orally.          -Plugging works perfectly with DPT.  It has a very smooth come on.  You hit the peak within 20 mins and then you're in that peak for a good solid 60 to 90, sometimes even 120 mins.  It takes quite a while to leave your system.          -5-MeO hits you very fast, within 7 mins, even when you plug it.  The peak also comes on really fast, around the 10 to 15 min mark.                     Differences between DPT and 5-MeO-DMT          For Leo, DPT feels a lot like 5-MeO, although DPT has certain benefits that 5-MeO doesn't have.          • A DPT trip is two to three times longer than a 5-MeO-DMT trip.  That’s great if you’re having a good trip, but terrible if you're having a bad trip.             • It’s easier to contemplate on DPT, but both 5-MeO and DPT have life changing, non-dual experiences to offer.          • DPT is also slower and methodical in how it works on you.  It has a slow, molasses effect.          • DPT is more visual and has a crazy vibratory, body feel to it.  Some people find it uncomfortable, or even terrible.  Leo found it to be very comfortable and enjoyable.          The trembling isn’t uncontrollable, like a seizure.  You can stop it if you want to, but it feels really good to move and tremble.  Energy starts flowing through your hands, feet, chest and the rest of your body.  You just want to vibrate.  It feels therapeutic and healing.  So just go with it.  As this happens, you’ll be going into full non-duality.          (There’s lots of research in somatic therapy on how trembling and shaking are keys to releasing trauma that’s been trapped in your body and psyche.)          • DPT is more therapeutic and better suited towards healing work than 5-MeO.  Leo has noticed that DPT is better than 5-MeO for embodying enlightenment.  5-MeO hits you so fast.  It comes and goes and leaves some amazing insights, but those insights are quite challenging to embody.  Because DPT is slower and longer, it really massages you.          • DPT trips are not easy.  They're pretty exhausting because you're working through a lot of psychological baggage.          • On DPT, it’s easier to guide your thought stream and intention towards whatever you want to contemplate. That’s partly what’s amazing about DPT.  DPT interconnects the mind and makes you conscious in a way that’s different than 5-MeO.          • DPT can take you to a much deeper layer of non-duality than 5-MeO.  The type of non-duality where you forget you ever existed! ?   DPT, The Godhead & Consciousness          -Leo’s super breakthrough experience on 50mg of DPT was the deepest he had ever tripped on any substance.  (This episode was released in Jan 2019)          -At the highest peak of his 50mg trip, he went into the Godhead.  With DPT your consciousness opens up right before your eyes and everything is revealed to be the Godhead.  You can go deeper inside and ask God questions.  Even more amazing, you can get real answers!  What is the Godhead?  Where did it come from?  What is it doing?  What is the nature of Love and why can't I have Chris Evans’ phone number?  (God said, “having Evans’ phone number doesn’t matter if he doesn’t want to talk to you.” )          -The slow molasses effect of DPT lets you bore into a question.  It’s the best substance for contemplation.  Although Leo has experienced the Godhead before (no biggie), with DPT he was able to reach a really deep level and penetrate into it.          -He became conscious of how everything that you’ve ever experienced is pure imagination, including this very present moment, right now.  You imagined your birth, your parents, yourself as a human being, your future death, etc.  All of it is pure, complete, infinite, unlimited imagination.          All physical objects that you consider solid and tangible, like chairs, galaxies, people, animals, trees, MCU memorabilia, have been imagined by the Godhead this entire time.  It’s all being imagined by God in the eternal moment of now.   “But Leo, how can the universe be imaginary?  Why isn’t it physical?  Why isn't it atoms or energy?”          What you don't understand is that you're imagining all of that: atoms, energy, particles, physicality, etc.  The only way anything can exist is if it’s dreamed up by God and consciousness.  Unlimited imagination is the only thing there is.          So this very moment right now, as you sit there reading all of this—it’s imaginary!  You're imagining all of it.                     Infinity & Imagination          -It’s important to understand that infinite imagination has layers and degrees to it.  On one level, as a human, you can dream up Santa Claus or the planet Mars, but that’s a different level of imagination than the Godhead imagining walls or your computer or other people.  You experience those levels of imagination as very very different because you’re not conscious enough to see how they’re both composed of the same stuff, the same Infinite Intelligence or Consciousness that keeps imagining stuff.          -You, as God, lock yourself off from the deeper layers of imagination to protect yourself.  Otherwise you would cease to be human and you would cease to be in a physical world. So, the physical world is a dream, but you imagine that you're not imagining it and therefore you experience it as real and physical, and not as imaginary.          -During Leo’s DPT trip, he became conscious of pure unlimited imagination.  It has no form, shape or location. The Godhead isn’t located in time or space or anywhere, because all of those things are being imagined by it.          This pure, unlimited imagination contains absolutely everything. Every single animal, every single human, every single planet, galaxy and star system.  Every human language, number, and mathematical system.  Every emotion and physical object that could ever possibly exist.  Anything that you've ever thought or imagined, all of that is contained within the pure particle of unlimited creative imagination.          The Godhead can literally think anything it wants into being and as a human you have a little bit of that too.  As a human you're very confined and there's a lot of constraints placed upon you, so it feels like imagination is separate from physical reality.  But when you become hyper conscious, what you realize is that there's no distinction whatsoever between the things you're able to imagine with your mind and actual physical reality.  They're they're identical.          As Leo went deeper into his trip, into this pure particle of infinite imagination, a slot machine effect started happening.  He was cycling through every single object in the galaxy, and he realized that this infinite particle of pure imagination is fully self-aware and Absolutely Good.  It’s Absolute Love and selflessness.            -When you peel back layer upon layer of the onion that is God, you’re going deeper into and deeper into yourself.  When you’re doing all these trips, and meditating, contemplating, doing yoga and purifying yourself with spiritual techniques, you’re becoming aware of God.  You are realizing your true self more and more.  The truth that pure, unlimited consciousness is the only thing that exists.          That’s not to say a human can turn his hand into a tentacle just by imagining it, but from the Godhead's point of view, when it's not being human, it can imagine anything it wants.  It’s completely unlimited.          There's a trade-off: the more human you are the less God-like you are.  The more God-like you are, the less human you are.  Also, the more God-like you are, the less interested you are in egoic pursuits like power and sex.          If you wanted to have the full powers of God, you would have to become completely selfless and give up your limited human form and let reality disappear.  Then you'd probably be dead.  Of course from God's perspective you’re immortal, but your human form can certainly change shape, which includes dying.                     Why Do People Have Bad Trips on DPT?          -Leo suspects the only reason his DPT trips were so positive was because he has a ton of experience with other psychedelics, especially with 5-MeO. He’s also done a lot of work on himself, so he’s already peeled back the layers of exploring Consciousness and understanding God.  (Leo has a lot of episodes about that.)          -DPT is not a recreational psychedelic, but that's exactly why it's so good for us!  Recreational psychedelics aren’t ideal for pursuing spirituality and non-duality.  We want the deepest, most ego annihilating thing there is.  We want the thing that connects us the closest to pure, infinite imagination and creativity.  You can use that to heal and transform your psyche in powerful ways.          -Bad DPT trips happen because people’s minds aren’t pure.  They’re just playing around they're not serious, they don't understand non-duality and they haven't contemplated seriously.          They don't realize its full potential because their most people who trip don't really understand what God is.  They've maybe peeled back one or two layers of the onion, but not like thirty layers.          When you’ve peeled back your 30th layer of the onion that is the Godhead, then DPT will be an amazing substance.  If you're just getting started as a newbie, watch out!!          -DPT can mindfuck you by turning your whole reality inside out and tearing you to pieces.  You’ve got to be totally comfortable with complete ego annihilation, because that's what DPT takes you to.  Your whole reality flies out the window you're gonna feel like you've gone insane.          -DPT magnifies your imagination, so if you panic, this can create a downward spiral of negativity while you’re tripping.  You’ll start to imagine your worst nightmares, and they’ll start to manifest because your mind is impure.          Your ego-mind is so terrified it doesn't want to surrender to non-duality.  It doesn't want to accept the deepest layers of God, so it's going to deny them and reject them and you’ll struggle.  Then you’ll create some very terrible trips.  That’s why there are so many bad trip reports on DPT.          -If you’re just playing around with DPT, you need to watch out!!  You've been warned!!                     Dreaming on DPT          -With 5-MeO, after a deep breakthrough experience, you’re likely to trip that same night or for a few nights afterwards. You're going to have spontaneous reoccurrences of the peak 5-MeO state.  But Leo had a DPT sleep experience that was distinctly more vivid and non-dual.  It was unlike any sleep experience he’s had with 5-MeO.          -After Leo’s big DPT trip, he went to bed and woke up in the middle of the night.  His neighbours were making some noise outside, so he couldn't sleep.  He was tossing and turning, not sure if he should just get up and start the day early even though he was tired.  His mind was also racing.          Eventually he fell back asleep and had the craziest dream. It was an awakening so deep that it went deeper than any awakening he’d ever had on any psychedelic, including 5-MeO, and this was in his dream!          This dream was so vivid.  In it, Leo confronted an old role model who he had really looked up to when he was first starting personal development.  In the dream, Leo’s role model was super jacked, shirtless and pumped full of steroids.  He was muscled up beyond anything human, a hulk-like figure, and Leo confronted him!          He was trying to explain everything he had discovered through psychedelics, all his breakthroughs and mystical awakenings.  He also tried explaining how we are all One.  Leo was so enthusiastic about sharing that he grabbed his old mentor’s massive shoulders and started shaking him, like he was trying to wake him up.  In that moment, Leo was completely annihilated.  He was so completely annihilated that he became his old mentor.  The distinction between Leo as a human and all other human beings was completely erased, as if it had never ever happened.          Leo became every cell, every molecule, in his old mentor’s body.  They were indistinguishable from each other, to the point where there was no trace or memory of who Leo ever was as a human being.  Just total annihilation.          Then Leo’s dream quickly shifted scenes to his elementary school.  He was in fifth grade, surrounded by five or six other kids.  They were looking at Leo like he had gone insane.  Leo was looking back at them in amazement.  He couldn’t understand how those kids thought they were alive or that duality was real.          Leo was having an awakening that was so deep, he couldn't even imagine the concept of being alive.  It was a depth of wakefulness where you’re so completely selfless and annihilated that you can't even know that you're human anymore.  The notion of being a living organism is so foreign and so untrue that it's both unthinkable and physically impossible.  That’s the level of wakefulness, of non-duality, of total enlightenment that he was at.          This was more than a collapse of the ego; it was a complete collapse of the self. And of the world, the universe, of history, of memories, of absolutely everything.  It was pure annihilation.  He was so indistinguishable from all others that he couldn’t even conceive of duality or Relative Truth.          It’s a state where you're completely annihilated and you become totally one with God.  You are God at that point, but the problem is you can never explain it to anyone.                     Solipsism          This is where the problem of solipsism comes in.  When you realize you're God and One with everything, you also realize that you’re the only thing that exists.  Not the little, egoic you (that’s been annihilated at this point), but as the Godhead, the All and the Infinite, there’s nothing else to reflect yourself back to because you’re everything.  There are no mirrors you can look into.          What's so haunting, beautiful and tragic is that you can never tell this to anyone because you're completely alone.  Only you, as God, have the power to cognize yourself fully, totally, absolutely as what you actually are.          So when you realize that you are pure imagination, you have no one to share that with.  You are imagining everyone in order to have an experience of duality, of Relative Truth. That’s exactly what's happening right now!          I'm imagining talking you, and vice versa; you're imagining me.  So really, Actualized.org is just you telling yourself about what you are!          All these insights are orders of magnitude beyond anything that can be explained or taught. A breakthrough DPT trip is a complete collapse of the boundary between self and other, but you have to experience it to truly understand it and the implications of it.   “But Leo haven't you realized all this stuff about non-duality before?”          Yes, Leo’s experienced non-duality on 5-MeO and with other substances.  The thing is, a peak 5-MeO-DMT trip is not a complete dissolution of the boundary between self and other.  Even though you’re in a nondual state, you still have a sense of being separate, of being your own self.  You remember your past, your personality, your body and your identity.          -With DPT, the boundary between self and other is completely annihilated.  You can’t conceive of having a separate body from another person. Or separate genetics, or separate personalities, or separate life histories, memories, desires, or needs.  With Leo’s DPT trip, all of that stuff got wiped away.  It was a state where you and I are truly identical.   “But Leo, this was all a dream, so it doesn’t count!”          From pure consciousness, there’s no such thing as “dream” or “not a dream.”  Consciousness is way beyond any such categories or distinctions because consciousness is prior to all distinctions and dualities. Consciousness is Absolute Truth, dualities are Relative Truth.          So, the distinction of "dream vs. not-a-dream" depends on consciousness, whereas consciousness does not depend on the category of “dream vs. not a dream” to exist.  Consciousness exists prior to duality and Relative Truth.          This insight about the Absolute, about Enlightenment, is beyond anything that can be taught, spoken or experienced.  Beyond anything you can meditate your way towards.  Even beyond anything you can trip your way towards.   “But Leo, tripping isn’t the same as being Enlightened, so it doesn’t really count.”          -Yes, breakthrough experiences on psychedelics are peak experiences that you can’t live life from everyday.  It’s too high a degree of non-dual consciousness.          However, knowing what your ultimate, true nature is makes it easier to handle the ups and downs and screw ups of life.          -It’s also important to distinguish between experiencing enlightenment versus embodying enlightenment.  A peak state goes away after a few minutes and you probably won’t be able to embody it, especially if you’re new to spirituality.  However, it doesn’t change the fact that you got a glimpse of non-duality and that Absolute Truth exists.  You can still use those peak experiences to 100x your everyday spiritual practice.                     Your Psychedelic Mileage May Vary          There's enormous variability among people’s experience with psychedelics, from the most positive to the most negative and everything in between.  Your experiences with DPT might not be as positive as Leo’s.          There are huge differences between human brain types, genetics, personality types, levels of consciousness and so forth.  For you, 5-MeO might be more powerful than DPT or some other psychedelic.  Even though all that stuff is imaginary from Absolute Truth, it’s still makes a big difference within Relative Truth. (episode: Relative vs Absolute Truth)          -Remember that Relative Truth matters a great deal to you because you’re a human.  As a human you experience pain, suffering, anxiety, fear and so forth.  You can’t escape problems that occur at the level of Relative Truth just by saying everything is ultimately imaginary because of Absolute Truth.  That’s spiritual bypassing.          -The idea that “being enlightened means you’re immune from experiencing the pain of Relative Truth" is silly.   Psychedelics and Safety          • Psychedelics connect you with your imagination. Because you're able to imagine literally whatever you want, your trips will reflect your cognitive development and level of consciousness.          • Watch the episode “The Top Dangers Of Using Psychedelics”.  Summary can be found here.          • Don’t misuse psychedelics.  Don’t just try them recreationally (especially DPT).  Don’t do it if you’re under 21.  Don’t do it if you’re immature.          • Be responsible with psychedelics.  Do them at the right dosages, using the right methods of administration.  Increase your dose gradually each time.  Don’t just wing it and do a big dose cause you’re impatient or want to party.          • Gradually ease your way into psychedelics.  Don't do more than you can handle.  You have to be very careful, even if you're doing it with a shaman.  You could spend ten or twenty years exploring psychedelics and still not see most of it.  It's a deep field of mastery.          • Research chemicals, like DPT, are in a legal grey area.  In some countries, they’re not scheduled or controlled “officially,” but that doesn't mean it’s 100% legal to consume them.  Keep all of that in mind.          • Don’t break the law.  You can find ways to do them legally, like traveling to other countries or doing Ayahuasca ceremonies, like in South America.  There are also ibogaine clinics in Costa Rica and Canada.  There are Native American churches that offer peyote.              • These experiences are so incredible, it’s worth flying to another country to try them out.  You can make a vacation or journey out of it.  If you have to hike through the Amazon to have your psychedelic journey in a legal manner, that will be part of your growth.  None of that experience is a waste.          The cost of travelling will be offset by the ripple effect of having your first few mystical experiences.  Finding God can help you heal your depression or anxiety or just give you a new sense of direction in life.