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How come people claim to observe and experience the same torments in hell ?

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1 hour ago, UnbornTao said:

What is this discussion grounded on?

Philosophy.

"Will God send me to hell?", but reskinned with the terms "consciousness" and "infinity." Ultimately, a gross and overly intellectual bastardization of the two terms.

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"God is not a conclusion, it is a sudden revelation. When you see a rose it is not that you go through a logical solipsism, "This is a rose, and roses are beautiful, so this must be beautiful." The moment you see it, the head stops spinning thoughts. On the contrary, your heart starts beating faster. It is something totally different from the idea of truth." -Osho

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31 minutes ago, Osaid said:

Philosophy.

"Will God send me to hell?", but reskinned with the terms "consciousness" and "infinity."

Speculation and make-believe, it seems to me. 

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22 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Ignorance, speculation and make-believe, it seems to me. 

When it comes to describing direct experience, philosophy is always ignorant and speculative. When you think your philosophy is not speculative, it turns into delusion.

It is like asking a question, and then saying "my question is true." This means you are missing the point of engaging in a question. The question gauges what is true, it is not what is true. The question is made of nothing but your own intellect, and it will vanish once you stop asking it. 


"God is not a conclusion, it is a sudden revelation. When you see a rose it is not that you go through a logical solipsism, "This is a rose, and roses are beautiful, so this must be beautiful." The moment you see it, the head stops spinning thoughts. On the contrary, your heart starts beating faster. It is something totally different from the idea of truth." -Osho

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@UnbornTao @Osaid A fork-tongued demon in both of your beds!

:P

Edited by Leo Gura

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8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

A fork-tongued demon in both of your beds!

Hot.


"God is not a conclusion, it is a sudden revelation. When you see a rose it is not that you go through a logical solipsism, "This is a rose, and roses are beautiful, so this must be beautiful." The moment you see it, the head stops spinning thoughts. On the contrary, your heart starts beating faster. It is something totally different from the idea of truth." -Osho

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3 hours ago, Bandman said:

It's literally my egoic childish fear of being doomed without escape that is asking this question. 

How is it possible to have an emotional reaction to something which you do not know? Why does it feel bad to speculate? What does it mean to you? What kind of ideas does it create about yourself?


"God is not a conclusion, it is a sudden revelation. When you see a rose it is not that you go through a logical solipsism, "This is a rose, and roses are beautiful, so this must be beautiful." The moment you see it, the head stops spinning thoughts. On the contrary, your heart starts beating faster. It is something totally different from the idea of truth." -Osho

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7 hours ago, Bandman said:

I am so afraid bros

 

Should i do a psychedelic to confront this fear and question? If so which one?

What has a beginning has an end. Only what never begun will never end. So you can not be more eternally doomed than you already are. If you're OK with the way it currently is, then there's no problem...


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18 minutes ago, vibv said:

What has a beginning has an end. Only what never begun will never end.

The beginning and the end are identical.


“Within the garden of your mind, every thought is a seed that can bloom into a galaxy of wonders." -ChatGPT 4

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35 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

The beginning and the end are identical.

Could you elaborate?


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6 minutes ago, vibv said:

Could you elaborate?

Yes, there is no beginning and end to elaborating!


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34 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Yes, there is no beginning and end to elaborating!

Well... can't argue with that. Else we wouldn't see the end of it.


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13 hours ago, Bandman said:

 It's literally my egoic childish fear of being doomed without escape that is asking this question. 

I also don't care how long it lasts, if it lasts 3 minutes or a googleplex years is not my concern. my only concern is if ultimately consciousness wil always return to salvation.

It's not childish at all. You have been sentenced to death. Forever.

It's all fun and games until some possesed saint starts speaking fluently latin. 

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@Leo Gura

 

Should i do a psychedelic to confront this fear and question? If so which one?


 

 

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5 hours ago, Bandman said:

@Leo Gura

Should i do a psychedelic to confront this fear and question? If so which one?

If your mind is focused on Hell you will end up there. Is that what you want?

Law of Attraction.


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@Squeekytoy Your arrogant and willfully stubborn attitude prevents me from helping you.


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@Squeekytoy It's a shame you keep playing that game, cause you have a lot of potential otherwise.

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34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

If your mind is focused on Hell you will end up there. Is that what you want?

Law of Attraction.

like i said, yes i am willing to go to hell. It's about knowing how to get out of there. I want the gnostic knowledge to know whether an unescapable doom exists.


 

 

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Anything that you do from wanting to get rid of will cause it to stick.

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