Is Enlightenment Just A Trick Of The Mind?

[100rockets]

How do you know its not just another perception in the mind? Or a zap in the brain that disconnects the mind from some other aspect of you (you as in brain, body)  How do you know its the ultimate truth? The only way to know that is when the mind dies.  If mindfulness can change your brain then isn't it reasonable to think enlightenment is a big permanent change? 

 

 

[Prabhaker]

1 hour ago, 100rockets said:

a zap in the brain that disconnects the mind from some other aspect of you

You will never experience being enlightened. How can you experience being enlightened? You are the barrier. And enlightenment is not an experience – because there is no experiencer in it. In experience there is division – the experiencer, the experienced. Between the two exists experience. When the experiencer and the experienced are no more separate, they have melted into each other, when the observer has become the observed, when the knower and the known are no more separate.

[Vingger]

enlightenment = reality as it really is

mind = phenomenon occurring within reality

Edited March 26, 2017 by Vingger

[electroBeam]

@100rockets How do you know a brain exists? If you haven't got any first hand experience of it?

Enlightenment being a trick is just as likely as science being a trick of the 'mind' whatever the fuck 'mind' means. 

[Bob84]

@100rockets ultimate truth is just a other label your ego likes to use to give extra credit to stuff. Enlightenment in a sense is just being aware of things that you are currently not. Not really comparible to other things, but as a general line.

Enlightenment is therefore not the ultimate truth but the end of bullshitting yourself about a ultimate truth.

[PureExp]

Not sure about enlightenment, but the thought "I am now enlightened" is surely a trick of mind.

[cetus]

@100rockets Enlightenment is the last trick your mind will ever play on you.

[Bodhi123]

@100rockets The real trick of the mind is thinking we are separate individuals

[FindingPeace]

On 26/03/2017 at 7:42 AM, Bob84 said:

Enlightenment in a sense is just being aware of things that you are currently not.

Enlightenment is therefore not the ultimate truth but the end of bullshitting yourself about a ultimate truth.

I like this. The most direct, no-nonsense, description of personal development and inner growth.