I Don't Want To Be God

[Jowblob]

1 hour ago, Vlad_ said:

Everyone is God's consciousness from my experience, but no one is self-aware (you know what I mean?). 

Lately I started tripping outside and talking to people. When I talk to them in that state I'm so fucking conscious that I know I'm imagining people I talk to and what they say! Can you believe that?? 

Yes, when i had my first ego death and i was still in extremely high conscious state. I decided to write it on this forum, instead of getting negative feedback and so on everyone confirmed that it was truly the case. the "truth" was being reflected from god unto me by using others. What do you use to trip outside lsd?

[Breakingthewall]

only you exist, but you are infinitely fragmented. that is to say, I also exist, but it is that I am you. if we empty the mind we are exactly the same. we are even if we don't empty it because everything apparent is a mirage. what we are is infinite and not limited to anything. there is no loneliness because we love ourselves infinitely. forget to conceptualize, while you are in the logical mind you will not understand it, because its dimension is another. something in 2d can't understand 3d so relax and enjoy

[SamC]

51 minutes ago, WeCome1 said:

Riiiiight?!

 

@WeCome1 You forgot porntub

[Yimpa]

3 hours ago, Vlad_ said:

Also I found something that Leo for example didn't talk about. I can actually control the depth of my awakenings on psychedelics. It's something that I recently discovered. I used to think that it was impossible.

Now I don't think I know what is possible or impossible 

Of course… you can have mystical experiences that Leo hasn’t had and vice versa. 

3 hours ago, RebornConsciousness said:

Young people have no business doing this shit, I've been saying this for some time now. But just like people would rather argue which diet is the best and healthiest instead of choosing to be omnivores and being able to eat what they need the most at the moment and having the freedom to experiment, people would rather deny common sense and trip balls during the most important and most productive time of their fucking lives. People would rather listen to Leo sheepisly and missaply his advice, when Leo himself started taking psychadelics only after his business already took off, his dating and social situation was handled, he's gone throught the entire self help rabit hole and had a very solid meditation backround, having experienced many retreats.

You are fooling yourself if you believe that spirituality is like science or academia; that there’s some strict linear path you have to follow to Awaken properly.

I started using cannabis for spiritual work at 21 with severe mental disorders, no job, no money. The first time I took cannabis I had the most shocking mystical experience and realized that all that there is is Infinity. Yet, my life has become better because of it. After that profound insight, I slowly but surely started to actually face my fears and mental health disorders seriously; take back my life instead of being completely helpless.

With that said, I have no regrets and no time was wasted.

3 hours ago, RebornConsciousness said:

I for one, only plan to meditate, as I deem psychadelics to be too risky for me, as I tend to be a very anxious person, and fear ending up in an assylum for insane people. Cases like these are a reminder for me why it's important to be carefull when it comes to your mind. You can injure yourself pretty badly and still somehow miracously recover, but damage to your mind is pretty dangerous.

That’s your choice of course. However, you claim that psychedelics are too risky for you despite never trying them once.

That’s like believing you can never have a girlfriend without ever having spoken to a single girl in your life.

Edited April 23, 2023 by Yimpa

[Cireeric]

I think the recognition of other POVs is something that you never can validate in your direct experience, thats where "direct experience is king" breaks. In an awakening experience you realize, that you are this one god consciousness. And in this state you realize your true identity as this one consciousness. But still this one consciousness looks through your eyes. It is an awakening from the POV of your unique perspective. But at the same time this one consciousness can experience itself through other POVs. Yes these other POVs are essentially the same consciousness that looks through their eyes, but they stil co-exist with yours. 

I think we get to "only this bubble of consciousness exists", if we make the assumption that really everything (even other POVs if they exist) can be validated from our own POV. When I sit with a friend im pretty sure and it seems pretty obvious that they also have their subjective experience at the same time. That is my current thinking on it, maybe I just had not enough deep awakenings yet. Woud love to hear some thoughts on it.

[Yimpa]

1 hour ago, Cireeric said:

I think the recognition of other POVs is something that you never can validate in your direct experience, thats where "direct experience is king" breaks.

Nope, not true. 

It’s a paradox. From such a high state of consciousness you can directly realize that what you used to believe were other POVs are actually YOU.

[_Archangel_]

@Vlad_

7 hours ago, Vlad_ said:

I don't want to be God. 

that is exacly how all your existence as Vlad came about

7 hours ago, Vlad_ said:

I want to be god damn sure whether my conclusions are true or I lost my fucking mind.  

Please, I want to hear your objections. 

Deep is not truly deep if you need confermations

[thepixelmonk]

4 minutes ago, _Archangel_ said:

that is exacly how all your existence as Vlad came about

Exactly what I was gonna say lol. If you don't want to be god then you should be happy 'cause you've already successfully achieved your goal, you are living life as a human.

[Vlad_]

4 hours ago, Jowblob said:

Yes, when i had my first ego death and i was still in extremely high conscious state. I decided to write it on this forum, instead of getting negative feedback and so on everyone confirmed that it was truly the case. the "truth" was being reflected from god unto me by using others. What do you use to trip outside lsd?

My experience is different to yours. In my trips all I see around me is myself, but there’s still the difference between what I see and what I actually am. I’m the source of my reflection. Do you understand me? Everybody and everything is me, but those “me’s” are not the source, I am the source of “them”. 
I don’t do LSD, only shrooms and 5Meo

[Vlad_]

3 hours ago, Cireeric said:

I think the recognition of other POVs is something that you never can validate in your direct experience, thats where "direct experience is king" breaks. In an awakening experience you realize, that you are this one god consciousness. And in this state you realize your true identity as this one consciousness. But still this one consciousness looks through your eyes. It is an awakening from the POV of your unique perspective. But at the same time this one consciousness can experience itself through other POVs. Yes these other POVs are essentially the same consciousness that looks through their eyes, but they stil co-exist with yours. 

I think we get to "only this bubble of consciousness exists", if we make the assumption that really everything (even other POVs if they exist) can be validated from our own POV. When I sit with a friend im pretty sure and it seems pretty obvious that they also have their subjective experience at the same time. That is my current thinking on it, maybe I just had not enough deep awakenings yet. Woud love to hear some thoughts on it.

My experience is different to yours. In my trips all I see around me is myself, but there’s still the difference between what I see and what I actually am. I’m the source of my reflection. Do you understand me? Everybody and everything is me, but those “me’s” are not the source, I am their source. 
I can’t accept this responsibility 

[Vlad_]

1 hour ago, _Archangel_ said:

@Vlad_

that is exacly how all your existence as Vlad came about

Deep is not truly deep if you need confermations

I need it only in this state of consciousness when I’m Ego 

[Vlad_]

1 hour ago, RebornConsciousness said:

They can completely destroy your life if you take too much

You’re God damn right! 
But the destruction of your life is the price to become Me 

[Moksha]

11 minutes ago, Vlad_ said:

But the destruction of your life is the price to become Me 

You can't destroy what doesn't exist. The absolute is. The appearance of forgetting and remembering itself is imagination.

[Vlad_]

10 minutes ago, Moksha said:

You can't destroy what doesn't exist. The absolute is. The appearance of forgetting and remembering itself is imagination.

Well you’re answering from the absolute perspective. I answered from materialistic perspective because as long as he hasn’t woken up he won’t be able to grasp it 

[Razard86]

4 hours ago, Vlad_ said:

My experience is different to yours. In my trips all I see around me is myself, but there’s still the difference between what I see and what I actually am. I’m the source of my reflection. Do you understand me? Everybody and everything is me, but those “me’s” are not the source, I am their source. 
I can’t accept this responsibility 

1. There is only ONE God, ONE SOURCE.

2. You can't confirm another POV because there is only ONE POV.

3. Every POV of GOD is in a solipsistic bubble because they are the ONLY thing that exists.

4. You cannot understand this logically because it transcends logic. Just understand you will never experience anything outside of you. You are ABSOLUTE. Reality is absolutely relative. This means your POV will ALWAYS be absolute.

There is no time, no space, no prior moments, there is only the PRESENT MOMENT. You use imagination to project into the present moment a prior moment or past moment, and you use story/explanations to tie those imagined prior moments to the present moment to explain it. Without a story to tie those prior moments this current moment wouldn't make sense to you.

Through these explanations, you can create a life and create the illusion of a beginning and an end. Without the mechanism of story, and memories you would realize eternity, and thus couldn't live a life.

All of this is an elaborate ploy to trick yourself into character and living out a story.

Your title is silly and childish, you are what you are. If you don't want to be God as you say then don't, you are capable of infinite delusion, which you are employing right now because if you didn't want to be God you wouldn't be tripping searching for truth!

So notice how your title conflicts with your actions!!! Infinite delusion!!!

Edited April 24, 2023 by Razard86

[Moksha]

14 hours ago, Vlad_ said:

Well you’re answering from the absolute perspective. I answered from materialistic perspective because as long as he hasn’t woken up he won’t be able to grasp it 

From the materialist (or relative) perspective, it isn't necessary to destroy your life, only to disidentify from it. Not only can you lucidly adventure through the dream, but doing so rooted in absolute love allows you to experience the cosmos without being consumed by it.

[Vlad_]

11 hours ago, Razard86 said:

If you don't want to be God as you say then don't, you are capable of infinite delusion, which you are employing right now because if you didn't want to be God you wouldn't be tripping searching for truth!

I can't accept the truth from the form's perspective, my ego is scared to death haha 

Yes, I'm very ambivalent about spirituality, but I remember those moments when I was fully awake. It was pure bliss, peace, love, silence.

[Yimpa]

17 hours ago, RebornConsciousness said:

And you have my utmost respect for this. I've tried weed couple of times, never managed to Awaken from it, just changed my state of consciousness to a more blurry, high state. No much different to what an alcohol would've done, or any other mind altering substance would've done to me. That had to be some good, quality shit you were on, or maybe you took a lot of it at once.

Or perhaps I was dead serious about understanding what the fuck Reality is.

I only took 2-3 weak puffs.

Edited April 24, 2023 by Yimpa

[Yimpa]

15 minutes ago, Vlad_ said:

I can't accept the truth from the form's perspective

I’ve had one of my deepest mystical experience while on this forum.

Be careful not to label subjective or objective reality as an obstacle to your Awakening.

Edited April 24, 2023 by Yimpa

[Moksha]

19 minutes ago, Vlad_ said:

I can't accept the truth from the form's perspective, my ego is scared to death haha 

Yes, I'm very ambivalent about spirituality, but I remember those moments when I was fully awake. It was pure bliss, peace, love, silence.

Instead of relying on memory (which isn't real), realize pure bliss, peace, love, and silence, which is what you absolutely are. The absolute allows glimpses of this, where it stops identifying as a person bound by space and time, but then returns to entanglement with the dream. Mind-habits have to be let go of entirely.

It only seems scary, because you are identified with the ego, which isn't real. In pure bliss, peace, love, and silence there is nothing to be scared of.

How to let go? Hear truth, contemplate without conceptualizing it, and be it. Easier said than done, but still possible, especially when aided by the severing blade of suffering.