Mesopotamian

A Job Is A Role In Society Before Everything Else

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In societies where survival is a top priority, people are often taught that they need to work hard and earn money to survive. This is what I was taught growing up in Iraq. However, I was able to break free from this way of thinking by becoming a freelance web designer thanks to the Internet, which became available after the American invasion in 2003.

At first, I had to put in a lot of effort to gain clients, but now I have a steady stream of income from my existing customers. However, when I tried to expand my business, I quickly realized that Iraq's economy is corrupt and dysfunctional. The country is like a Ponzi scheme, with money being distributed among the people, but ultimately leaving the country again. I couldn't see how I could fit into this system, which seemed to benefit only a select few.

I don't believe in serving my corrupt fellow citizens who receive salaries from the inflated government. The country is in a bad state and is facing existential threats. More than 35% of the population works for the government, and this makes people lazy and stifles traditional money-making opportunities. The job market is heavily regulated, and people put traditional morality and survival-based values before financial gain. Try to imagine it that was the case in America, it would be having  more than one hundred million people working for the government, what would that do to its economy?

In this situation, it's hard to imagine how anyone can succeed and accumulate wealth. However, I still believe that the American invasion was necessary. The truth is that things would be just as bad, if not worse, without any intervention. To really make a difference, there needs to be a conscious effort to elevate the nation. Simply leaving Iraq to its own devices isn't a viable solution.

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Also in this regard, I would like to refer you to my other topic if you have time for that:

 

Countries Are More Like Vessels Than Anything Else

 

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@Mesopotamian  Wow, what all is the government controlling for government employment to be at 35%? That's actually a golden opportunity to try some radical social experiments though, Iraq is more culturally homogenous than the u.s. so in theory the people could work together, trust and love each other easier than the u.s., more like a Scandinavian country.

       I love the cultural richness and ancient history of the middle east, what are your thoughts about the redrawn boundaries in the region? I think WWI and WWII boundaries were redrawn by outside nations.

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14 minutes ago, Devin said:

@Mesopotamian  Wow, what all is the government controlling for government employment to be at 35%? That's actually a golden opportunity to try some radical social experiments though, Iraq is more culturally homogenous than the u.s. so in theory the people could work together, trust and love each other easier than the u.s., more like a Scandinavian country.

       I love the cultural richness and ancient history of the middle east, what are your thoughts about the redrawn boundaries in the region? I think WWI and WWII boundaries were redrawn by outside nations.

Boundaries are just a touchy subject for me, and it seems that the United States against redrawing them. The successive administrations believes in keeping sovereignty of the current states in their current form. We've seen how they waged war on Iraq in the desert storm when the latter tried to annex Kuwait, same is happening now when putin is trying ti annex Ukraine. So that's not allowed it seems so. 

Middle East culture is tribal, and the ancient history is something that has been discontinued. Current Iraqis can't be attributed to the people who lived in iraq thousands years ago because of the many empires and kingdoms that has been established over the thousands of years. 

Iraq is in the middle of nowhere, and its nation is kind of like the people who gather in the bus station, they have very little in common. It's not like Japan, where people have been living there isolated on an island continuously for hundreds of years. 

What kind of social experiments though you're referring to?

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42 minutes ago, Mesopotamian said:

Boundaries are just a touchy subject for me, and it seems that the United States against redrawing them. The successive administrations believes in keeping sovereignty of the current states in their current form. We've seen how they waged war on Iraq in the desert storm when the latter tried to annex Kuwait, same is happening now when putin is trying ti annex Ukraine. So that's not allowed it seems so. 

Middle East culture is tribal, and the ancient history is something that has been discontinued. Current Iraqis can't be attributed to the people who lived in iraq thousands years ago because of the many empires and kingdoms that has been established over the thousands of years. 

Iraq is in the middle of nowhere, and its nation is kind of like the people who gather in the bus station, they have very little in common. It's not like Japan, where people have been living there isolated on an island continuously for hundreds of years. 

What kind of social experiments though you're referring to?

         Well, from the little bit I know of the region maybe the boundaries would need reset for it, and I thought the people were more culturally similar than you seem to but I was referring to a structure like the scandinavian countries, some people call it democratic socialism, it seems it would take some ethics building by reading some of your other posts, but if a good group of strong ethical leaders emerged they could really make something desirable.

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