Did Leo change his perspective on this? Still confused

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I apologize for any transgressions from my part 

You do have a point. I will try to tone it down a little bit 

Thanks. 

We are always watching

 

[Gesundheit2]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

@Gesundheit2 you have some serious talent in playing with concepts in a elegant way that Makes your "opponents" want to pull their hair out. 

It's mostly cuz I'm balding and I don't want to be left out alone 

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Gesundheit2 said:

It's mostly cuz I'm balding and I don't want to be left out alone 

He probably sucks at chess.   

[Sincerity]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Pure mental horseshit. 

Well, at least now You're honest what it is to You.

[Inliytened1]

3 hours ago, Someone here said:

That's backwards. You start as a form. Are you aware of a primordial formless state before you took this human Suit? For me personally, I can't remember. All Im aware of is the finite formed world. 

That's because it's total.  That is why you can't remember. 

[Gesundheit2]

21 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

He probably sucks at chess.   

I'm okay at chess. Not the greatest, and not the worst.

Or are you referring to @Someone here?

[Carl-Richard]

I'm a capitalist — reality is infinite value. I'm also an anarchist — reality cannot be encapsulated by a finite set of rules. I'm also a libertarian — I'm free to re-define words whichever way I see fit, without thinking about the social consequences.

This is how I feel when I read discussions about solipsism.

[gettoefl]

it's not just others don't exist, you don't exist

look in the mirror right now, that isn't you wakey wakey

your body-mind are appearance like all else you see

nothing about you is real

you haven't gone deep enough with self enquiry

[Breakingthewall]

8 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

it's not just others don't exist, you don't exist

look in the mirror right now, that isn't you wakey wakey

your body-mind are appearance like all else you see

nothing about you is real

you haven't gone deep enough with self enquiry

What about the direct experience? Is it real?

[gettoefl]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

What about the direct experience? Is it real?

of course and whose is it?

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

of course and whose is it?

nobody's, is what you are, direct experience, or in other words, existence. It doesn't matter if it looks like a guy looking in the mirror or whatever, it's what it's being

Edited February 26 by Breakingthewall

[gettoefl]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

nobody's, is what you are, direct experience, or in other words, existence. It doesn't matter if he looks like a guy looking in the mirror or whatever, it's what it's being

solispism is an ego trumpeting godship

impossible since it never existed in the first place

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, gettoefl said:

solispism is an ego trumpeting godship

impossible since it never existed in the first place

No, it is to realize the infinite depth of the direct experience . direct experience is existence. It seems limited but it is not. the ego is part of direct experience, like the others and anything else, since only direct experience exists, and outside of it there is nothing. You are not the person, obviously, you are the direct experience where appears a person that apparently is perceiving. there is always a direct experience, it is eternal, and that is what you are.

[gettoefl]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

No, it is to realize the infinite depth of the direct experience . direct experience is existence. It seems limited but it is not. the ego is part of direct experience, like the others and anything else, since only direct experience exists, and outside of it there is nothing. You are not the person, obviously, you are the direct experience where appears a person that apparently is perceiving. there is always a direct experience, it is eternal, and that is what you are.

yes tend to agree ... ego feels it is an independent doer ... but god is all the moving parts of reality interacting seemlessly, god receives it witnesses it appreciates it, loves all the to and fro it created for itself

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

yes tend to agree ... ego feels it is an independent doer ... but god is all the moving parts of reality interacting seemlessly, god receives it witnesses it appreciates it, loves all the to and fro it created for itself

yes, but there is a difference. your ego is alive, that is, it is part of real existence, it is absolute infinity pretending to have limits, on the other hand, I, with whom you are talking, am not alive, it is like superman talking to his father's hologram. It seems that he is alive and acts as such, but he is not, he was. but currently it has no real existence, it is just an image from another time. and you to me are exactly the same. we are not two beings that exist sharing a conversation, only one exists

[gettoefl]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

yes, but there is a difference. your ego is alive, that is, it is part of real existence, it is absolute infinity pretending to have limits, on the other hand, I, with whom you are talking, am not alive, it is like superman talking to his father's hologram. It seems that he is alive and acts as such, but he is not, he was. but currently it has no real existence, it is just an image from another time. and you to me are exactly the same. we are not two beings that exist sharing a conversation, only one exists

having no free will, ego is an automaton, it proceeds and retreats based on causes and conditions, not something for me to pay attention to

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

having no free will, ego is an automaton, it proceeds and retreats based on causes and conditions, not something for me to pay attention to

I didn't mean the ego, i mean the direct experience that you are. There is nothing outside, there is not outside, you are the absolute, that's the solipsism is 

I am now the father of Superman sending a message that will be received when I do not exist, or well, when I'm don't exist as this concrete experience 

Edited February 26 by Breakingthewall

[Deadpixel]

So can all of you “truth realized” beings start posting fluently in foreign languages you’ve never learned? Surely as an omniscient God who created all languages you should know and understand all languages?   

[gettoefl]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I didn't mean the ego, i mean the direct experience that you are. There is nothing outside, there is not outside, you are the absolute, that's the solipsism is

solipsism is misleading ... people use to claim they are god ... no you are not god, god is you and uncountably more beside

[gettoefl]

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I didn't mean the ego, i mean the direct experience that you are. There is nothing outside, there is not outside, you are the absolute, that's the solipsism is

the direct experience is everyone's direct experience, god basks in it all not just one random ego's