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Are You A Narcissist? - Take The Test

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@Carl-Richard No. Ti does care about truth. What’s logical to someone is what’s true to them. Te on the other hand only cares about the belief of others. 


"Not believing your own thoughts, you’re free from the primal desire: the thought that reality should be different than it is. You realise the wordless, the unthinkable. You understand that any mystery is only what you yourself have created. In fact, there’s no mystery. Everything is as clear as day. It’s simple, because there really isn’t anything. There’s only the story appearing now. And not even that.” — Byron Katie

 

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8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Self-hatred is what a narcissist would experience if he started doing serious spiritual work on himself. Which is exactly why he will never do it.

Here's how it works: It's easy to love yourself when you bullshit yourself about how great you are. But this is just lies. It's much harder to love yourself as you truly are, without all the facades and lies. Imagine if you convinced yourself that you are hotter than Brad Pitt. This would make it easier for you to love yourself. But then you would have to avoid looking in the mirror and facing the truth and learning to love the truth. So that's exactly what a narcissist is doing. He's thinks he's got everyone fooled, but really he's only fooling himself and a handful of fools who worship him.

In childhood, when there is some kind of abuse or the child is unable to get its needs met in one way or another, if the child finds a way to manipulate to get its needs met, it becomes co-dependant. When co-dependant people are super nice all the time to the extent where they let people walk all over them, they do this to get approval and connection, because from their trauma, they have learned that that's the only way they can get it.

When co-dependants continue to take abuse from people they are in relationships with instead of leaving, it's because they are desperate for connection and are terrified of being abandoned, and they figure that a toxic and dysfunctional person wouldn't have anybody else who would want to be around them, so this dysfunctional person essentially needs them, thus guaranteeing the co-dependant connection. You can see how all of a co-dependant's behaviours that appear to be so nice and selfless on the surface are really done completely out of their own self-interest, and they are just manipulating to get their own needs met. Co-dependancy is entirely based in selfishness.

For a narcissist, they went through the same kind of trauma and had unmet needs in childhood, but for them, there was no way to manipulate to get their needs met, so in that case, narcissism develops, where the person completely stops caring about the needs of others and becomes entirely concerned with their own self-interest, steam-rolling anyone and anything in their path. It's really their only option to get their needs met at that point. A narcissist basically becomes locked in a bubble of their own self-interest and is unable to see how they are hurting anyone. For a narcissist to become aware of that, they would have to face and admit to all the pain they hold within themselves that caused them to be this way in the first place, because the bubble they're in is the only way they've been able to get their needs met, and as soon as you remove that, they see how hurt, unloved and deprived of their needs they've been.

Both narcissism and co-dependancy are styles of relating people based completely on the person's own self-interest and what they are trying to get out of the other person. They are created through trauma and especially shame, because they learn that this need/this part of you is not okay and is not going to be loved which leads to them having to figure out other ways to get their needs met. Because of this, I feel like a more accurate explanation is that if a narcissist looked within and became conscious of his actions, he would see all of the shame and hurt he feels within. Deep down narcissists feel deep levels of shame. Self-hatred is separate thing. (Of course he may begin to feel self-hatred if he became aware of how much he has hurt people, but the root cause of narcissism is shame, not self-hate).

Of course narcissists don't really love themselves based on what love really means. They are just obsessed with their own self-interest and their own needs and agenda, which of course comes with a lot of egotism and arrogance and makes it look like they love themselves a lot. That's why if you asked a narcissist if they liked or loved themselves they would say of course, but it's not real love, it's just an adaptation to cover up deep shame underneath.


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I got score 16. What I didn't like about the test is that majority of the time my answer wasn't any of the ones available. 

What I thought was interesting is the graphed scores, as I felt it was surprisingly accurate (although maybe I am biased). I would expect myself to be pretty entitled but I rally don't like exploiting people. 

 

 

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7 hours ago, How to be wise said:

@Carl-Richard No. Ti does care about truth. What’s logical to someone is what’s true to them. Te on the other hand only cares about the belief of others. 

You don't know the difference between logic and truth?

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1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

You don't know the difference between logic and truth?

What is the relationship between logic & truth?

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4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What is the relationship between logic & true?

One is a tool of the mind, the other is the Mind :)


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4 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

One is a tool of the mind, the other is the Mind :)

Not a bad answer.


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It's all easy to see which responses will make you a narcissist and which will make you a humble, noble good boy. I would say that the less punctuation, the more fake, so more narcissistic . Well, not always

A narcissist is not the one who likes his body or thinks he is a good leader or smarter than the average, he is the one who is addicted to self-evaluation all the time, and that is why he needs others to affirm himself, if not he's anxious 

 

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Didn't bother in making the test, it's a 50/50% it doesn't correlate what you have in your mind. The tests limits your personality and freedom of choice, specially when you know why they ask these questions. These tests are for low conscious people that don't even know the purpose of the questions asked in the test.


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32 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:

20/40. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be ;)

Maxed authority and vanity. Min exhibitionism and exploitativeness.

@Inliytened1 I see you, friend!

Your video portrayed you as a beacon of kindness, yet I’m blindsided by your overwhelming egotism, surpassing even my own.


"Not believing your own thoughts, you’re free from the primal desire: the thought that reality should be different than it is. You realise the wordless, the unthinkable. You understand that any mystery is only what you yourself have created. In fact, there’s no mystery. Everything is as clear as day. It’s simple, because there really isn’t anything. There’s only the story appearing now. And not even that.” — Byron Katie

 

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1 hour ago, How to be wise said:

Your video portrayed you as a beacon of kindness, yet I’m blindsided by your overwhelming egotism, surpassing even my own.

Not to be judgemental, but the way he talks en the tone of his voice can tell alot about his personality. I hear no empathy in the voice but just ego, and that egotistical laugh hehe.  But perhaps i am wrong, just first vibes that i got

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4, out of 40.

This result actually concerns me. I might be so much of a narcissist that I don't even realize it!

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2 hours ago, Vibes said:

4, out of 40.

This result actually concerns me. I might be so much of a narcissist that I don't even realize it!

That it worries you proves you aren’t a narcissist 😌


Just because God loves you doesn't mean it is going to shape the cosmos to suit you. God loves you so much that it will shape you to suit the cosmos.

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3 out of 40... Interesting that I scored reasonably high on the psychopath test lol.

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4 out of 40

To be brutally honest. I experience a certain amount of pride in not testing high in Narcissistic qualities. This implies an inherent contradiction. To be more blunt, I believe this test be rather shallow and rather high on the scale of  bullshito. 

It's not my intention to be overtly antagonistic though,,,,,🤷‍♂️✌

The Last Element Which Supports Narcissism

This clarifies the observation that one of the main sources of narcissism is the self-reflective capacity of the normal self. More precisely, one of the main characteristics of narcissism is self-consciousness, an outcome of the normal self’s capacity for self-reflection. It is only at the level of the Absolute that this characteristic disappears. It does not disappear at the earlier stages of self-realization, not even at the level of nonconceptual reality because there is always consciousness when we reflect. The ego-self hangs on to this consciousness, even nonconceptual consciousness, by self-reflection. In the experience of nonconceptual reality, we perceive pure consciousness when looking backward or inward. In the experience of the Absolute, consciousness disappears when we attempt to reflect. The experience then is not self-consciousness but cessation of all consciousness. We could say that in the self-realization of the absolute truth, our front is the perception of phenomena, which is the same as the phenomena, and our back is total cessation. The quality of this depth of Being, whose nature is total cessation, dissolves self-consciousness. This eliminates the last element which supports narcissism.

The Point of Existence, pg. 426

The Root of Narcissism

In the experience of self-realization, the self recognizes its identity as presence. When a person is identified with something other than the primordial presence, self-realization is absent. He is not then being himself; he is not simply being. He is not one with his essence. The most fundamental and deepest aspect of the soul is absent in his experience of himself. This is the root of narcissism. In narcissism, the experience of the self is disconnected from its core, from the depths of what it is. It is estranged from its true nature, exiled from its primordial home. The soul’s estrangement from its true nature is the basis of narcissism. Here, we are using the term narcissism in the colloquial sense, similar to what is referred to as narcissistic disturbance in psychoanalytic terminology.

The Point of Existence, pg. 26

The Self of the Average Individual is Deeply and Fundamentally Narcissistic

Narcissism is a very general, basic element of ego life. The self of the average individual is deeply and fundamentally narcissistic. The complete resolution of narcissism will elude us until the achievement of self-realization. All that conventional psychotherapy can do is alleviate symptoms resulting from severe disturbances of narcissism, and, when successful, can help the individual to reach the level of the narcissism of everyday life. To proceed further and address this fundamental narcissism, only spiritual development will make a real difference. We also believe that understanding the spiritual nature of the self can help us to understand even the severe forms of narcissistic disturbance. This perspective can help us to see that we cannot separate our psychology from our spirituality, our psyche from our spirit, for we are fundamentally whole. Our self is one self, and cannot be dichotomized into a spiritual or “higher” self and a psychical or psychophysical self.

The Point of Existence, pg. 46


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Your score is 14, out of 40

I really thought I would score more and was a bit conscerned when looking at the results.

in the other hand, I could take a look to my lack of vanity, Not giving a shit how do I look and what do I wear is not good.

 

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