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Nondual Teacher talking to far right pundit

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I came across this video where Aaron Abke has an interview with Jesse Lee Peterson - A far right youtuber and radio host. Aaron is a pretty advance spiritual teacher and he tries to explain nonduality and spirituality to Jesse however, his words get twisted to fit the right wing agenda. Its clear that jesse has no idea what Aaron is talking about because his mind is far too closed. I was surprised to see someone as spiritually advanced as Aaron even on this show, and at certain points in the interview he shows some pretty strong right wing opinions about abortion, vaccines, gender, etc.

It's worth a watch just to see that even spiritual masters can have some pretty conservative views.

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It’s shocking how bad the politics of some spiritual people are. Understanding politics takes deep intentional study and contemplation. You don’t get it just by having awakening experiences, although that can help to a degree.

Part of the issue that some spiritual people spend all their time being spiritual and thinking politics doesn’t matter. But then that belief itself becomes your political stance. There is no-not having a political worldview.

The other issue seems to be that spiritual people often have a non-mainstream, contrarian perspective on the world. Think stage Green hippies. And although this serves them in some ways when it comes to spirituality, they also easily fall into conspiracy theories and general nonsense. Which makes their politics bad.


 

 

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Oh god, it's like teaching geometry to a baboon.

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Aaron has lots of blue in him.

He has taken pretty much all right-wings talking points during the pandemic. 

Full of conspiracy theoris, "pro-freedom", antivax etc

Stopped following him for this reason.

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31 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Aaron has lots of blue in him.

He has taken pretty much all right-wings talking points during the pandemic. 

Full of conspiracy theoris, "pro-freedom", antivax etc

Stopped following him for this reason.

Had exactly the same experience with him, which is a shame because I think he was a really good teacher 

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A lot of New Agers take on anti-mainstream anti-vax style conspiracy theories because they are anti Orange capitalism.

Look at Russell Brand.

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11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

A lot of New Agers take on anti-mainstream anti-vax style conspiracy theories because they are anti Orange capitalism.

Look at Russell Brand.

But Russell brand has been involved in non-dual work. Surely non-duality is above Green?


"Not believing your own thoughts, you’re free from the primal desire: the thought that reality should be different than it is. You realise the wordless, the unthinkable. You understand that any mystery is only what you yourself have created. In fact, there’s no mystery. Everything is as clear as day. It’s simple, because there really isn’t anything. There’s only the story appearing now. And not even that.” — Byron Katie

 

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11 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

Surely non-duality is above Green?

Nope.

Non-duality is non-duality. It's not a value. It's an area of study, philosophy, approach to spirituality, however you want to use the term, but not a value.

Green is a label for a postmodern value system.

Since non-duality is not a value even some Red mafia thug can adopt it as a form of spiritual belief and for example use it to justify his socially harmful actions, for example by arguing that there is no-one being robbed, so he is not doing anything evil.

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This is like some new agey stuff. 


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Ramaji is supposedly enlightened.

He still voted for Trump.

Spirituality does not guarantee that you understand politics.

Many legit spiritual people are still stupid. Probably most of them. That's what happens when you meditate too much and think too little.

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1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Ramaji is supposedly enlightened.

He still voted for Trump.

Spirituality does not guarantee that you understand politics.

Many legit spiritual people are still stupid.

How do you find the nexus between high consciousness in politics and high value in spirituality? 

 


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 Be careful being too demanding in relationships. Relate to the person at the level they are at, not where you need them to be.

You have to get out of the kitchen where Tate's energy exists ~ Tyler Robinson 

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3 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

How do you find the nexus between high consciousness in politics and high value in spirituality?

Knowledge of any finite domain requires experience and study. It never comes automatically just because you're spiritual or experienced in other domains.

This is domain-specific knowledge.

You're not gonna know engineering unless you study engineering. Nothing else will substitute for that.

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15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Ramaji is supposedly enlightened.

He still voted for Trump.

 

 

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Shunyamurti is huge on anti-vax and is just anti-government is general.


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1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Shunyamurti is huge on anti-vax and is just anti-government is general.

Yeah, his "end of the matrix"/"society is colapsing" talks gets tiring very fast, stopped following him also for this reason.

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2 hours ago, Recursoinominado said:

Aaron has lots of blue in him.

He has taken pretty much all right-wings talking points during the pandemic. 

Full of conspiracy theoris, "pro-freedom", antivax etc

Stopped following him for this reason.

Yeah I agree. It's a shame because he has some amazing videos on nonduality and enlightenment.

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25 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Knowledge of any finite domain requires experience and study. It never comes automatically just because you're spiritual or experienced in other domains.

This is domain-specific knowledge.

You're not gonna know engineering unless you study engineering. Nothing else will substitute for that.

I agree. However, even people with a high level understanding of politics like Don Beck for example, can be right wingers and support Trump. Its kinda crazy considering his knowledge and experience.

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10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Shunyamurti is huge on anti-vax and is just anti-government is general.

This video is a good example of this. At one point he even says, “Germany’s domestic policy has already for sometime been the destruction of its own society.” Dangerous words of wisdom from Shunyamurti!

6 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Yeah, his "end of the matrix"/"society is colapsing" talks gets tiring very fast, stopped following him also for this reason.

For sure. I even agree with him that society is collapsing and found it tiresome!

I wrote a funny little parody of him a while back. Maybe somebody here will like it:

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A Wisdom Teaching from A Great Sage

It’s a great joy, and certainly not a great jouissance, to be typing this today.

A Sat Yogi is one who sits in the past. As the great sages - and remember, to be a sage is to see-ages - tell us, the good days are over.

I think the religions call this state “fallenness”: one is no longer willing to open one’s heart to love, to live on fifteen carrots a day, to donate one’s soul to the community…

But there is hope: once one has realised the futility of life in the ego, gone through the zero point and turned it into a hero point, the Sat Yoga Institute will be ready to welcome you with open arms. 

Of course, I don’t really need to be telling you any of this: if you wanted to you could download your own hodgepodge of psychoanalytic conundrums and new-age messianism, but your consciousness is choosing to project itself onto a guru-figure who can give you the answers that you already have.

…but you don’t want answers, do you? You want jouissance. Well *puts on funny hat*, “you can’t always get what you want, but if you try some times, you’ll find — you get what you need!”

May we save the universe from our cosy, rich Costa Rica ashram, collapse the quantum wave function and re-dream the energy field - w i t h o u t… d e l a y

Namaste

:)


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Helena Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine

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@Oeaohoo  Lol your parody is amazing hahaha pretty much nailed it

This "end of the world" talk is as old as it gets.

Nurture fear on people, place yourself as the only one who "sees it all" and knows what to do.

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