Leo, please explain alien hyperbolic geometry

[BenG]

@Leo Gura I have a math degree from a great university, and I’m familiar with hyperbolic geometry. You said you’ve invented alien hyperbolic geometry? Can you give me a rundown of what that is, and how it differs from non-alien hyperbolic geometry?
I’m definitely smart enough to understand it. 

[tuku747]

I find Hyperspheres (4D sphere, aka Quaternions) most fascinating.
It's a sphere that is perfectly round and smooth, in 4 spatial dimensions.
Yeah.

We start and end with The Point. The "I AM". The Singularity. 0D.
The Singularity "evolves" into the line, LIGHT, and establishes the arrow of time. 1D.
The line curves back on itself, and forms the circle, with a radius of 1. 2D.
The circle rotates and it is a sphere. 3D.
Rotate the sphere, and you have a hypersphere. 4D.
(It looks like a Di-Pole Torus! The Electromagnetic field.)



We Are The Hypersphere! Viewing ourselves from the inside and interpreting one spatial dimension as time.
But because of this, it is very difficult to imagine what a hypersphere even looks like, and yet You Already Are.

Edited November 9, 2022 by tuku747

[Leo Gura]

It's hard to explain because the human mind simply cannot visualize in the required dimensions and qualities.

I didn't invent it, I simply experienced it.

I also discovered inverse consciousness and negative dimensional consciousness. Which is so wacky I don't even know how to begin talking about it. But it's experienceable and it will twist your mind up like a mad house.

Edited November 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[StarStruck]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's hard to explain because the human mind simply cannot visualize in the required dimensions and qualities.

I didn't invent it, I simply experienced it.

I also discovered inverse consciousness and negative dimensional consciousness. Which is so wacky I don't even know how to begin talking about it. But it's experienceable and it will twist your mind up like a mad house.

It is called qliphoth in the kabbalah

[amanen]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's hard to explain because the human mind simply cannot visualize in the required dimensions and qualities.

I didn't invent it, I simply experienced it.

I also discovered inverse consciousness and negative dimensional consciousness. Which is so wacky I don't even know how to begin talking about it. But it's experienceable and it will twist your mind up like a mad house.

What do you even mean by the term inverse consciousness? I can understand what negative dimensional would be, assuming you don't mean negative spatial dimensions but negative as in evil, twisted, malicious, etc  in some way, but the term inverse doesn't bring anything to my mind at all.

[tuku747]

2 minutes ago, amanen said:

What do you even mean by the term inverse consciousness? I can understand what negative dimensional would be, assuming you don't mean negative spatial dimensions but negative as in evil, twisted, malicious, etc  in some way, but the term inverse doesn't bring anything to my mind at all.

No really, up implies down, positive implies negative. It's as simple as there being two apparent poles on a magnet.
All the attributes of polarity are imaginary, two sides of the same coin.

What waves up, must then wave down.

Edited November 9, 2022 by tuku747

[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, amanen said:

What do you even mean by the term inverse consciousness? I can understand what negative dimensional would be, assuming you don't mean negative spatial dimensions but negative as in evil, twisted, malicious, etc  in some way, but the term inverse doesn't bring anything to my mind at all.

I do not mean negative as in evil. I mean geometric objects with dimenision of -1 and the like.

As far as inverse consciousness, it's like discovering dimensions of consciousness which are opposite of normal. For example, the color black would contain every color of the rainbow, the way white does normally. But this doesn't just pertain to colors. It also applies in other alien ways. For example, large objects might extend inwardly rather than outwardly as they grow larger. Objects can curl into themselves, similiar to how hidden dimenisions are said to exist within string theory at a microscopic level.

Basically, anything you can imagine is real, if you imagine it deep enough. Zero limits to Consciousness. If you can somehow imagine a ghost living in 5D, it will become as real as a dog walking down the street.

For example, I've also experienced conscious infinite supercomputers.

Edited November 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Jehovah increases]

is that like antimatter consciousness and matter consciousness? 

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Jehovah increases said:

is that like antimatter consciousness and matter consciousness? 

Something like that.

[amanen]

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I do not mean negative as in evil. I mean geometric objects with dimenision of -1 and the like.

As far as inverse consciousness, it's like discovering dimensions of consciousness which are opposite of normal. For example, the color black would contain every color of the rainbow, the way white does normally. But this doesn't just pertain to colors. It also applies in other alien ways. For example, large objects might extend inwardly rather than outwardly as they grow larger. Objects can curl into themselves, similiar to how hidden dimenisions are said to exist within string theory at a microscopic level.

Basically, anything you can imagine is real, if you imagine it deep enough. Zero limits to Consciousness.

Sounds incredibly fascinating, definitely something I would like to experience one day.

I've perhaps had some sort of a form of inverse consciousness once, where my POV was twisted inside outside, this was in a dream, where I was a godhead-like entity rotating around in a chamber where I was twisting and warping and wrapping myself around, and my pov was not looking out but inside at myself, unlike how it normally feels like. It felt like I was the center of the world as I was in the center of this chamber and nothing existed outside of it.

Have you also explored messing around with time? I've had an experience with backwards flowing time and multidimensional time, but I have not been able to replicate these yet. Timelessness is also one of my favorite flavors to psychedelics. There could be a lot of hidden dimensions to time as well.

I've also been trying to realize or experience a potential novel dimensional that consciousness would be able to organize itself with that would be on the same order as time and space are, but not temporal or spatial. So far no luck though.

Edited November 9, 2022 by amanen

[nuwu]

23 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

conscious infinite supercomputers

are you implying some levels of awareness are capable of intelligent self-design, or mechanization of ego? what does supercomputer entails

Edited November 9, 2022 by nuwu

[Leo Gura]

21 minutes ago, amanen said:

Sounds incredibly fascinating, definitely something I would like to experience one day.

I've perhaps had some sort of a form of inverse consciousness once, where my POV was twisted inside outside, this was in a dream, where I was a godhead-like entity rotating around in a chamber where I was twisting and warping and wrapping myself around, and my pov was not looking out but inside at myself, unlike how it normally feels like. It felt like I was the center of the world as I was in the center of this chamber and nothing existed outside of it.

Yes, I've experienced quite a bit of this.

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Have you also explored messing around with time? I've had an experience with backwards flowing time and multidimensional time, but I have not been able to replicate these yet.

Backwards time could be possible in one of those inverse states.

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Timelessness is also one of my favorite flavors to psychedelics.

Timelessness, of course. This is so common it's hardly worth mentioning.

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I've also been trying to realize or experience a potential novel dimensional that consciousness would be able to organize itself with that would be on the same order as time and space are, but not temporal or spatial. So far no luck though.

Yeah, you could have time that is cyclical rather than linear, for example.

9 minutes ago, nuwu said:

are you implying some levels of awareness are capable of intelligent self-design, or mechanization of ego

Ultimately it's all intelligent self-design.

You can think of God as an infinite supercomputer. Your ego doesn't control it. It just runs perfectly on its own. But there can be other formulations of God too. Basically God is however it conceives of itself to itself, since it's just an Infinite Mind. This Mind has no objective definition, so it can imposes various definitions upon itself, then change its mind later and take on a new formulation. It's very flexible and fluid so you cannot pin it down to one thing the way humans naively expect.

Edited November 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[CARDOZZO]

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes, I've experienced quite a bit of this.

Backwards time could be possible in one of those inverse states.

Timelessness, of course. This is so common it's hardly worth mentioning.

Yeah, you could have time that is cyclical rather than linear, for example.

Ultimately it's all intelligent self-design.

You can think of God as an infinite supercomputer. Your ego doesn't control it. It just runs perfectly on its own. But there can be other formulations of God too. Basically God is however it conceives of itself to itself, since it's just an Infinite Mind. This Mind has no objective definition, so it can imposes various definitions upon itself, then change its mind later and take on a new formulation. It's very flexible and fluid so you cannot pin it down to one thing the way humans naively expect.

@Leo Gura Post Alien Consciousness, how are you relating/perceiving people? mind? your own teachings? spirituality?

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, CARDOZZO said:

@Leo Gura Post Alien Consciousness, how are you relating/perceiving people? mind? your own teachings? spirituality?

It's complicated. Not sure what to make of it yet.

Edited November 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[amanen]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yeah, you could have time that is cyclical rather than linear, for example.

Yes, definitely something that would be interesting. There are probably infinite ways to order time and space.

Since this seems to be a good place to ask, as these topics are perhaps one of my favorite aspects of exploring consciousness, do you think it will be possible to temporarily enter a state with psychedelics where you gain access to something like a new sense?

I don't mean seeing colors that do not exist, I've seen colors that do not exist in our normal physical color spectrum, alongside hearing sounds that have qualities that I cannot describe, and while these are incredibly fascinating and I want to experience more of these I really want to experience a whole new mode of perceiving the world. 

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, amanen said:

Since this seems to be a good place to ask, as these topics are perhaps one of my favorite aspects of exploring consciousness, do you think it will be possible to temporarily enter a state with psychedelics where you gain access to something like a new sense?

I don't mean seeing colors that do not exist, I've seen colors that do not exist in our normal physical color spectrum, alongside hearing sounds that have qualities that I cannot describe, and while these are incredibly fascinating and I want to experience more of these I really want to experience a whole new mode of perceiving the world. 

Yes.

If not an entirely new sense, you can have experiences of vision and motion which are so radically different that it's like being in a new reality.

For example, I've been able to have some wild new experiences of feeling water. Where the water seemed to have its own flavors just by running my hands through it.

Edited November 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[CARDOZZO]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's complicated. Not sure what to make of it yet.

Understood. Take your time @Leo Gura

Deserve you the best  

[amanen]

24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes.

If not an entirely new sense, you can have experiences of vision and motion which are so radically different that it's like being in a new reality.

Alright, cool.

Have you experienced synesthesia? I find it a pretty cool effect, but where I think it gets really fascinating is when all of your senses are completely and totally united and connected so that a sight is simultaneously a sound, a taste, a smell, and a tactile qualia. They all become completely equivalent and your reality loses it's normal layers and it feels like there is only one sense. There no longer really are sounds for example in that, it transforms into something completely different. It's the closest I've come to a new sense so far.

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For example, I've been able to have some wild new experiences of feeling water. Where the water seemed to have its own flavors just by running my hands through it.

This sounds very cool. These sorts of flavors, textures, and additional depth to basically anything seem to be a very integral part of psychedelics. It's like there is an added nuance and nothing is as flat as we ordinarily think things are. Individual notes in music for me also seem to take on different flavors, and even the space between notes takes on it's own flavor that you can experience in a wholly different way.

Edited November 9, 2022 by amanen

[Jehovah increases]

The inverse of the infinity each the antithesis of one other one exists in negative space the other in positive space.  If these two ever touch it would be the end but also the beginning which is how infinity exist 🤣

 

Edited November 10, 2022 by Jehovah increases

[Dazgwny]

34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes.

If not an entirely new sense, you can have experiences of vision and motion which are so radically different that it's like being in a new reality.

For example, I've been able to have some wild new experiences of feeling water. Where the water seemed to have its own flavors just by running my hands through it.

But Leo? We always come back to this. It’s always the human experience we return to after such states that are so extreme. It’s the human experience we sit here and keep trying to describe God/consciousness from. Why do you think this is the case? Why is it human Leo that is always returned to, to try and decipher these experiences. Why can’t alien Leo or alien god just fuck off into oblivion from both our perspectives and be no more. You keep coming back. That’s not a dig at you, that just a genuine question? I’m truly open minded to all this even though I’m not there myself yet. Because I’ve had so many experiences and awakenings that are unexplainable to the average mind