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Elon Musk Twitter Trainwreck Mega-Thread

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@Hardkill

29 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Mark Zuckerberg is still the CEO of Facebook and he has an intellect and personality that are similar to Musk's. Would you say that Zuckerberg should also not be the CEO of his own company anymore?

   Based, comparing Elon Musk, a visionary engineer that created Tesla and SpaceX, to Mark Zuckerberg, a computer and website developer who specializes in social media websites.

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@mr_engineer I agree that creating standards involves biases and can be difficult, yet that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do it. Creating laws also involves biases, yet that doesn’t mean we should have no laws. 

My point was not that creating standards is bias-free and agenda-free. That certainly is an issue in creating standards. My original point was that having zero barriers paradoxically reduces maximum free speech free speech potential as does having too many barriers. 

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You can design the algorithm such that it diminishes the reach of a tweet if it contains the phrase "fuck you" for example.

AI can detect the sentiment behind a tweet and control it's reach. An AI will determine the sentiment behind a tweet. But polarising and self validating tweets usually brings good engagement and user retention. So twitter may make less profits by shadow banning such tweets. 

Human mods are always sloppy and can't deal with hundreds of millions of people. You need to introduce tech and reduce the reliance of people as much as possible. 

As a end user, the reason I hate staying on twitter is due to the poorly maintained features and lag while using it. This must be changed from the inside out, first. That's what Musk is upto. 

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   I just hope that Elon Musk doesn't reverse the banned Twitter accounts like Destiny's or Trump's.

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8 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

   I just hope that Elon Musk doesn't reverse the banned Twitter accounts like Destiny's or Trump's.

He already has allowed Trump back on Twitter.

But here's a good analysis on that: 

 

What's wrong with Destiny?

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@Hardkill

2 hours ago, Hardkill said:

He already has allowed Trump back on Twitter.

But here's a good analysis on that: 

 

What's wrong with Destiny?

   The guy is a bit too bitchy with twitter, and likes to go overboard with the race jokes and trans jokes, sometimes kid jokes and it's just not a good look for twitter or Twitch, probably why Twitch not only banned him but took their partnership down.

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I think the reason Elon Musk wanted to buy Twitter is because he just  wanted to tweet. I mean this dude has been tweeting non stop past 7 hours. 

I mean narcissists are like that. If they want to buy a carpet they can buy the whole store 

My phone has been buzzing with Elon Musk notifications and I didn't even subscribe to this chimp. 

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37 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

My phone has been buzzing with Elon Musk notifications and I didn't even subscribe to this chimp. 

Lmao. Even he should be able to understand that Apple also has the freedom to not advertise on a failing platform that may promote racism, pornography, and hate speech. Hes gaslighting them at this point

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@Leo Gura

On 27/11/2022 at 3:54 AM, Leo Gura said:

The whole point is that a social media platform must moderate content far beyond what is merely illegal.

In the same way that if you want to host a popular party, your party rules cannot simply be: anything legal goes. Your party must prohibit a bunch of stuff which is legal, but socially unacceptable, like bringing a dead skunk to the party.

In real life you cannot bring a skunk to a party because people will see your face, remember who you are, and blacklist you forever. But online, since most people are anonymous and have multiple accounts, this doesn't work. If you let people bring skunks, they will keep doing it and ruin every online party you ever throw. Thus you must ban such assholes. Because if they did that the real-world, they would be banned for simple indecency.

Musk's policy is effectively this: Let's allow everyone back to our party who has ever brought a skunk. Well, it's obvious that Musk doesn't understand how parties work.

   To be clear, in your hypothetical, do you mean in your party the rule is to prohibit illegal activities? Have a rule to police illegal acts?

   Never mind, I got the hypothetical that it's not illegal to bring a dead skunk, but it's morally and socially unacceptable to do so. So, as the leader/ruling group, you host that party and have to police the patrons not just for illegal activities, but also legal activities that are socially unacceptable, gotcha.

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Is Elon Musk out of his mind or what? Freedom of speech includes advertising wherever you want to. If Apple doesn't want to advertise on Twitter, what is his problem with that? Crazy.

Twitter is not just Twitter now, is Twitter-Elon Musk, whether he likes it or not. He is also endorsing one political party over the other, which may be understandably a concern for some companies that want to appeal to everyone, not just conservatives.

Twitter is still working thanks to inertia, even with the previous and actual economical losses, but so many voices and ears were and are still there.

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If you guys don't buy my courses, you're violating my freedom of speech.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

If you guys don't buy my courses, you're violating my freedom of speech.

If you start releasing courses again, we’ll stop violating you :P.

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Brand deterioration is ultimately what Musk wants to avoid (other than burning 44B).

If he continues fumbling this Twitter acquisition that he got himself into, his brand will start to deteriorate; Telsa, Boring, SpaceX, etc.

He is the Tesla brand mascot, he's like Ronald McDonald except even more of a clown.  He is the mascot and that's part of the equation of why people buy his shit.  If Twitter flops tremendously, his other brands will deteriorate.  Who would want to drive around in the divorced guy's car who managed to fumble Twitter?  Less people.

Society's psychology will kill your business faster than actually burning money.  Investors ain't happy.

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Oh no I know what this is all about… Elon musk is going to try to run for president….. god help us all

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Elon is at war with Apple. Is it a genius move or a childish tantrum?

Twitter is growing, more people are signing than left, apparently. I believe it, people love drama and Elon is bringing much of that. But will they stay there for long once the drama gets old? Not so sure about that. He still will need to make a profit though. 

 

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20 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

If you guys don't buy my courses, you're violating my freedom of speech.

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8 hours ago, Hatfort said:

Twitter is growing, more people are signing than left

Are you sure is real people, not just trolls and bots?

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50 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Are you sure is real people, not just trolls and bots?

No, I'm not sure at all, who knows... But Twitter ironically got quite interesting with all this drama, so it could be.

I did leave it though, but I'm one person. It's really a personal gain to leave those kind of social media for most people, certainly for me. The value they provide doesn't make up for the time they take from you. Twitter was successfully designed to be addictive. Not by Elon Musk, has to be said.

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On 12/1/2022 at 3:51 AM, hoodrow trillson said:

Society's psychology will kill your business faster than actually burning money.  Investors ain't happy.

This is true. 


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 Be careful being too demanding in relationships. Relate to the person at the level they are at, not where you need them to be.

You have to get out of the kitchen where Tate's energy exists ~ Tyler Robinson 

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