Females have intrinsic value, men don't?

[Tyler Robinson]

 

24 minutes ago, Swarnim said:

@Tyler Robinson

What would be a higher, more truer opinion of women in your opinion? What's your take on if women have intrinsic value or not? (Value here meaning something that would be of value to society)

Women bring a lot of value to society. Mothers raise their children. A woman is much more than her external appearance. She is also about her values. Men and women are same when it comes to intelligence. Men just tend to be more logical and women tend to use emotional intelligence. Yes when it comes to physical things, men tend to have more physical stamina than women, but women possess more intrinsic wisdom. Women have the highest reproductive value because without women your semen is worthless. Yes women need semen for impregnation but for that we don't need men. We just need the semen. It's not that men aren't necessary. Of course men are needed to build a society, building roads etc. But so are women. Women are needed to give birth to those men. Men offer value in terms of work. But women offer value in terms of bearing and raising children. If a woman can be replaced by some laboratory generated egg or womb then men can also be replaced by heavy duty machines. There's no competition here. No rivalry. Both men and women were created to harmonize with each other, do their respective gender roles, create families and lead the human race. None is better or worse than the other and there is no rivalry, in fact there shouldn't be any rivalry to begin with. Both have separate roles to play within the context of evolution and procreation and continuation of a species. None is inferior or superior, just that both are designed differently both mentally, physically and emotionally to serve a role in the bigger picture. I think the person above Miss Tahuti (who is actually a man), tries to affirm a woman's value but does so in a begrudging way. As per his opinion, women especially the ones who look hot have a huge value and get everything given to them just based off on their appearances. I agree wholeheartedly with that thought. However, you have to ask yourself, who is giving this value to these hot babes? The answer is men, especially low self esteem men who love to simp and place women on a pedestal. As you can clearly see, the not so good looking women don't enjoy the same privileges. This means that this value is not so much about the "female" gender as much as it is about being attractive to men..so obviously this value is more about what catches male fancy. If a man spends a million dollars on a horse and gives the horse all kinds of special treatments, can you blame the horse for it? No. It's the man's decision to spend that kind of money on a horse. Society has never been fair. The value of anyone is not dependent on what they give intrinsically but more on what society considers to be valuable. There are so many talented artists that go unpaid everyday. Yet if the daughter of Bill Gates made a painting and sold it, she could make millions for just one painting, only because she is the daughter of Bill Gates. That's how worth and value is determined in our society. It's never about the true intrinsic potential of a person but how society views them. Society views unattractive women as unwanted or not worthy enough even though they are women too and capable of bearing and raising children too. Yet they are not valuable because they are not charming enough to men. This means that this value or worth is external and is dependent on validation supplied by men rather than anything  intrinsic provided by the woman apart from her looks. A beautiful woman can sit pretty and not contribute in any way towards a workforce and still be valued by all men, whereas an ugly woman could be working her ass off and harder than most and contributing a lot in terms of talent and intelligence and still not be valued, in fact men might want to replace her with a beautiful girl. Men don't value intelligence in women because they think they already have enough and they won't need a woman to compensate for that. So they look for beautiful women since that's something they cannot have on their own and that's onto men, whatever they choose to value. So if hot women enjoy privileges, I don't feel sorry for men because it's an inflated value created by men and given to these women, indirectly it's not these women that men are considering as valuable, it's basically their own desires, their toys. Children will always consider their toys valuable even if those toys are broken. A matured form of intelligence will see that anything that works hard and provides intrinsic value is valuable and will not base this value solely on generic lottery.

[caspex]

@Tyler Robinson I see, thanks a lot. 

[Leo Gura]

Value for men and women is different. But both screen their mates unconsciously for value.

This is as true for men and women as it is for birds and lizards. No bird sleeps with a random bird.

Edited November 8, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Heart of Space]

I want you guys to go watch gladiator and then imagine Russel Crowe's character reading your posts.

How do you think he would respond?  He'd probably turn off the forum and go lift heavy objects and protect his beautiful family from the coming famine.  Because you guys are absolutely fucking useless, my god.  To be fair, he'd think I was a bit of a pussy too though. 

Edited November 8, 2022 by Heart of Space

[petar8p]

On 11/7/2022 at 4:21 AM, Tahuti said:

We have milk for babies. They do not need mothers milk anymore. In the future even breastfeeding will go out of "relevance".

Breastfeeding is not just purely for nutrition. 

 

Mom's touch is essential for bonding and emotional development of the kid. Breastfeeding is one of the warmest feeling a baby can feel. It will never go out of relevance.

[Tyler Robinson]

2 hours ago, petar8p said:

Breastfeeding is not just purely for nutrition. 

 

Mom's touch is essential for bonding and emotional development of the kid. Breastfeeding is one of the warmest feeling a baby can feel. It will never go out of relevance.

Exactly. I don't know what planet that dude lives on. 

[Tyler Robinson]

@Tahuti why do you demonize women?