Last Night I Became An Alien Hyper Intelligence - AMA

[Thought Art]

@Consilience They are “Beyond” the classic and traditional non-dual schools because he is using radically different, more potent and direct methods. 
 

All those old systems (especially Buddhism even when compared to Toasim which is much more open) don’t have experiential lineages of what these altered states of psychedelics reveal. 
 

They are different, and for a practical, grounded, human spirituality there’s lots to be gained from meditation, Buddhist scriptures, Buddhist Qigong etc. But there is an infinite world BEYOND all that traditional stuff. 
 

Psychedelics offer something you literally CANNOT EVER gain through these ancient systems. 
 

Evolution is taking place. As it always has been. There is really know “Buddhism” anyway. Just “Buddhism’s?” With the questions mark intended because no one really knows what the Buddha said, did or was. 
 

But, Buddhism is a systems I deeply respect for my spiritual development. I just know from experience there is spirituality way way way fucking beyond it. 

Edited October 9, 2022 by Thought Art

[Consilience]

2 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Consilience They are “Beyond” the classic and traditional non-dual schools because he is using radically different, more potent and direct methods. 

 

Beyond implies above, implies hierarchy. These states are tangental, not beyond. Furthermore, they are wildly less direct if you understand what the goal of traditional spirituality is. The consequences of these indirect, potent methods are wildly misunderstood on this forum. 

2 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

All those old systems (especially Buddhism even when compared to Toasim which is much more open) don’t have experiential lineages if what these altered states of psychedelics reveal. 
 

All the psychedelics reveal is the infinite nature of mind. Im not saying this doesn’t have intrinsic value, or provide a certain unique wisdom as one travels. Similar to how when one travels the world there is a wisdom. 
 

Lineages recognize the infinity of mind, but recognize there is a Truth beyond the infinite nature of mind that recontextualizes ALL states. Such that any additional, new state whether higher or lower shares the same fundamental essence. This is the true gem of spirituality, finding a peace, recognizing the truth regardless of one’s state. This is what liberates and this is what gives the highest understanding. 
 

This path of Actualized.org is like saying the goal is to keep having more and more realistic dreams, rather than waking up and getting out of bed.
 

2 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

They are different, and for a practical, grounded, human spirituality there’s lots to be gained from meditation, Buddhist scriptures etc. But there is an infinite world BEYOND all that traditional stuff. 

Of course. And what is the real value of exploring infinity other than to satisfy one’s own curiosity, or truly, to end one’s suffering of the dissatisfaction of the sober state. Buddhism recognizes there is an infinity of mind, and states of consciousness. If you read the texts you’d know this. What Buddhism recognizes is that these states are not the ultimate truth, nor do they resolve any of the existential conundrums of man.

If you want to explore them, great! Explore. There is value there, in the relative world. But when you start shitting on the path to truth and fooling yourself into thinking this exploration is “higher” than enlightenment, you’re fucked and much worse, leading others astray. 

[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, Ragib Ashraf said:

I put my money on IV. If so, I totally agree that this shouldn’t be shared publicly. Although we ought not to speculate too much

More dangerous than IV.

I came close to killing myself.

Becoming an alien isn't as easy as you think. You think this is some cute joke, but it ain't.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[AtheisticNonduality]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

More dangerous than IV.

I came close to killing myself.

Taking a hot bath filled with LSD????? 

[herghly]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

More dangerous than IV.

I came close to killing myself.

Be careful

[JuliusCaesar]

29 minutes ago, Consilience said:

This path of Actualized.org is like saying the goal is to keep having more and more realistic dreams, rather than waking up and getting out of bed.

So what you're saying effectively, is that Leo and the forum have made substantial breakthroughs, as dreaming is very good.

[Leo Gura]

34 minutes ago, Consilience said:

This path of Actualized.org is like saying the goal is to keep having more and more realistic dreams, rather than waking up and getting out of bed.

Not true at all.

I have told you guys many times about complete Awakening. But that's not the only thing I will be teaching or talking about. Don't put me in a box.

I'm not gonna be saying the same shit over and over again forever. I move on to new topics. I expect you to already get the old topics.

I can show you how to Awaken so completely that it will kill your human body. But none of you here are mature enough to handle that, so I don't even teach it.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Twinstar]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I can show you how to Awaken so completely that it will kill your human body. But none of you here are mature enough to handle that, so I don't even teach it.

@Leo GuraWhat makes you think that no one is mature enough to handle it? Seems like a biased generalization.

[Leo Gura]

22 minutes ago, Twinstar said:

@Leo GuraWhat makes you think that no one is mature enough to handle it? Seems like a biased generalization.

You guys can barely handle a little mouse action 

Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[fictional_character]

@Leo Gura you  could try to make a visual representation of this alien hyper intelligence with A.I 

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, fictional_character said:

@Leo Gura you  could try to make a visual representation of this alien hyper intelligence with A.I 

No, it's not a visual thing.

[fictional_character]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No, it's not a visual thing.

I understand haha

[StarStruck]

39 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No, it's not a visual thing.

Have you ever found practical uses for your infinite intelligence? Tesla had also access to this intelligence and he discovered electricity. Afterward the light bulb was invented. 

Edited October 9, 2022 by StarStruck

[Etherial Cat]

You are not the most awakened being there is. It comes off pretty painful to see you insist on it, from posts to posts, when what is happening is a clear case of an ego co-opting awakening/ and intellectual insights as a way to strengthen itself. It's pretty basic, and easy to spot from an outside perspective. I suppose since it's not necessarily the nicest thing to point at, and that when someone slack off from your gravity pool there is no more strong feeling one need to 'do something about it', it's rare that it's being told to you. But lately, your situation comes off as very bad, and I would highly recommend you to seek some help, before you keep sinking more and more into delusion.

Now I already know, I'm going to be threatened, belittled, told I am not awake enough, not smart enough and all the likes. But that reaction is exactly what makes me know you are not the real deal. Love, gentleness, kindness, and respect is quite foreign to you (as of 2022, you used to be a cool guy), and your forum looks like a 'spiritual' BDSM studio where you followers enjoy you pouring melted wax on their low-self esteem wounds.

If you want to connect with the unconditional love that is so longed for and talked about, you might want to start to incarnate it. You are totally bereft of it. Hence your obsession with the idea of it, and your constant need for superiority. It's the infamous zero sum game mentality, all over again. A need for superiority on the Buddha, Tolle, Ken Wilber and obviously, your followers. Seeing anyone doing better than you is a threat to your sense of self. What a Guru!

By the way, I know you've been itching to ban my account for a while. If you feel like burning the witch, feel free to do so. I suppose stating the obvious has this cost. 

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

By the way, I know you've been itching to ban my account for a while.

You sure would like that to prove your case.

Unfortunately for you I'm not so insecure about whether you believe me or not.

I don't ban people just because they disagree with me.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Etherial Cat]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

You sure would like that to prove your case.

Unfortunately for you I'm not so insecure about whether you believe me or not.

It was obviously a witchy trick.

A reversal psychology game theory spell. 

[Leo Gura]

@Etherial Cat Keep playing your games.

Meanwhile don't kid yourself. You've got a lot of awakening left to do and your fave gurus will not help you achieve it because they themselves don't have it.

All I'm here to tell you is that your spirituality is a sophisticated game. But none of that is fooling me.

Nothing personal.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Etherial Cat]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Etherial Cat Keep playing your games.

Meanwhile don't kid yourself. You've got a lot of awakening left to do and your fave gurus will not help you achieve it.

This is exactly what I am talking about.

It's not empowering, it's not loving, it's not kind. It's a 'I am better than you' disguised as help, preying on the fear someone cannot get enlightened and thus get rid of its suffering alone, without your guidance.

I'm over that. You helped me a lot, but this type of mentor/student dynamic is not how one gets awaken. It's bad for me, and bad for you.

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

This is exactly what I am talking about.

It's not empowering, it's not loving, it's not kind. It's a 'I am better than you' disguised as help, preying on the fear someone cannot get enlightened and thus get rid of its suffering alone, without your guidance.

I'm over that. You helped me a lot, but this type of mentor/student dynamic is not how one gets awaken. It's bad for me, and bad for you.

As I told you, you're playing games. And none of this is personal.

If you're gonna be on this forum, I will tell you when you are not Awake. And if you find that unloving and disrespectful, you're not gonna like being here. It's not about being better than you.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Etherial Cat]

2 minutes ago, KH2 said:

And what if he really IS the most awakened being in the universe? It's not like you can prove otherwise.

My inner authority tells me it's not. I've proven it to myself.

I'm not interested in convincing anyone I am right about it. Everyone needs to do its own work.