Last Night I Became An Alien Hyper Intelligence - AMA

[StarStruck]

10 minutes ago, Matthew85 said:

@Leo Gura I admire how disciplined you are in deconstructing your mind and beliefs. I've never come across anyone who does it at your level. 

What I don't get is if he can deconstruct the mind why can't he deconstruct the mouse?

[Carl-Richard]

@StarStruck  Save that one somewhere

[Osaid]

2 minutes ago, DreamScape said:

this sounds so disrespectful, i know what 'kill the buddha' means though, and what you're saying. 

Reminds me of what Jed Mckenna said in one of his books:

"I sometimes wonder if I would make a good Zen master— Roshi— but I don’t think so. Or maybe I’d be a great one, depends how you look at it. My emblem would be a graphic depiction of the Buddha’s head lanced on a pike, complete with dripping blood and dangling viscera. The motto beneath the emblem would be DIE! Students would line up outside my door after zazen to come in and tell me their experiences and as soon as the first one opened his mouth I’d start shrieking at the top of my lungs “ You’re not him! You’re not the real guy! You’re the makyo guy! You’re just the dream character!” I’d probably start hitting the student with a stick at this point, which is one of the perks of being a Zen master. “ You’re supposed to be dead! Why aren’t you dead? Why are you coming to see me? You’re the problem! Get out and come back when you’re dead. That’s the guy I want to talk to, not a stupid dream character. Now GET OUT!”

7 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

Thank you for this profound visual depiction of awakening

[Carl-Richard]

34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

2) I've simply exhausted all the standard spiritual stuff, so I was ready to find new things.

I don't think so.

 

34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

3) I've worked hard to throw out all human spiritual teachings, so my mind operates completely independently. This is one of the reasons why I trash nonduality and Buddhism so harshly. I had to do that in order to destroy any authority it has in my mind. It was holding me back for years but I was too scared to throw it away.

That means you misunderstood what the work is about. What is the teaching doing in your mind and not your body? You didn't master riding the bike, only read a lot about biking. It's about implicit learning, inarticulate wisdom, integration.

Edited October 8, 2022 by Carl-Richard

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

That means you misunderstood what the work is about. What is the teaching doing in your mind and not your body? It's about integration, implicit learning, inarticulate wisdom.

Cute human

[Carl-Richard]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Cute human

Cute mouse 🐭

[Twentyfirst]

42 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What same question?

There are 3 main causes:

1) I developed a very powerful new method for taking psychedelics. This generates some truly new states of consciousness.

2) I've simply exhausted all the standard spiritual stuff, so I was ready to find new things.

3) I've worked hard to throw out all human spiritual teachings, so my mind operates completely independently. This is one of the reasons why I trash nonduality and Buddhism so harshly. I had to do that in order to destroy any authority it has in my mind. It was holding me back for years but I was too scared to throw it away. In a sense, I killed the Buddha, pissed on his rotting corpse, and wiped my ass with his orange robe. So now I can really begin spiritual work. This has allowed me to access some truly alien kinds of consciousness.

I think Dzogchen is the best human teaching 

[Thought Art]

46 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

I was waiting for this ahaha

[cetus]

22 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

I think Dzogchen is the best human teaching 

 Suzuki's maxim, “Zen mind, Beginner's mind”.

[vladorion]

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2) I've simply exhausted all the standard spiritual stuff, so I was ready to find new things.

You haven't even started with the standard spiritual stuff, you silly mouse.

[RMQualtrough]

55 minutes ago, KH2 said:

Problem with Connor Murphy was, that he was extremely irresponsible and childish with it. While Leo always could separate his awakenings from his every day life, Murphy seemed completely lost, letting his physique, house, youtube channel and bank account rot away. Leo realizes the importance of survival, however imaginary it is.

Connor went from being a bodybuilding narcisistic meathead gymbro, to a full blown 24/7 ayahuasca addict. That's a recipe for disaster.

You've been indulging in 4chan /x/ type fantasy through the thread. None of this is serious truth or anything with any substance. It's magick stuff. Tarot, astrology, etcetera.

Leo's trip by the way sounds like if Salvia involved animals rather than objects. Especially the glossalia (speaking in tongues). I spoke in tongues on Salvia often. It is curious that I recognize other people's "Salvia" trip words. Certain nonsense words have a Salvia vibe. And certain objects like tactile paving and hammers...

I think the reason is the same as why many people try to smoke imaginary cigarettes on Datura (even non smokers). I think the pathways in the mind are activated in a certain spread which aligns with specific phenomena. DMT has jester clowns for example.

None of this is of any "spiritual" substantiality. It's like fun and games. People wanting to "harness InFiNiTe CoNsCiOuSnEsS!!!" to manifest things and perform magick are in for major disappointment or delusion.

[cetus]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

This generates some truly new states of consciousness.

Hybrid states? No partitions?

[Consilience]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

I don't think so.

 

That means you misunderstood what the work is about. What is the teaching doing in your mind and not your body? You didn't master riding the bike, only read a lot about biking. It's about implicit learning, inarticulate wisdom, integration.

Yep. 

Watching this spiral out of control has been such a teaching. 
 

If anyone thinks they understand Buddhism without thousands of hours of meditation, really 10,000+ minimum, they’re completely deluded. Trying to understand Buddhism without traveling into the subtlety of the sober mind is going fail. Hence the steaming pile of shit we see unfolding with Alien consciousness and Earth consciousness. Which btw, are super cool and have profound implications for the nature of consciousness and reality, but nothing to do with Enlightenment other than they obscure the deepest truth when clung to like Leo is doing. The clinging, that is the stench, that is the hubris and self deception in action, that is the Devil. 
 

Buddhism is not the truth, it is a path to the truth and not only path. There is Advaita, Christianity, Sufism, etc. Truth transcends all of it and a real Buddhist understands this. However, Buddhism teaches more than a path to the Absolute, so there is more. Many Buddhists do get lost in the weeds, and many turn Buddhism into the goal, not recognizing the goal is beyond Buddhism. But this has nothing to do with Buddhism, only the seeker’s misunderstanding or in this case, the skeptics.
 

Once one crosses the shore, there is no need to carry the boat on one’s back. 

[Leo Gura]

23 minutes ago, Consilience said:

Hence the steaming pile of shit we see unfolding with Alien consciousness and Earth consciousness.

Exactly why I rejected Buddhism.

You demonstrate denial and arrogance masquearding as wisdom and humility.

You have no idea what consciousness is capable of. Because you've been brainwashed with Buddhist ideas of what is proper and valid.

You will only see what the Buddhist paradigm allows you to see. Hence you are stuck in a Buddhist paradigm lock. Until you wise up.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Consilience]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Exactly why I rejected Buddhism.

You demonstrate pure denial and arrogance masquearding as wisdom and humility.

You have no idea what consciousness is capable of. Because you've been brainwashed with Buddhist ideas of what is proper and valid.

Nothing about your experience is invalid. The actuality and ontological implications of your experience aren‘t invalid either. The metaphysical ranking you’re giving them though, the importance you’re giving them, is a distraction and based on what you’re saying, false. This falshood is not to say they’re invalid or not real. The meaning is false. Thinking this is anything other than more mind and somehow higher than God or beyond God is false. 

Chasing these altered states will only lead to misery when you understand impermanence and the ruthless, relentless torrent of rebirth and as much as you’d love to distract yourself from, suffering. This Leo character is a fraction, a fiction, a pure fantasy to Truth. Know what you really are, and a dancing alien mouse or burning alive in full lotus can’t touch you. The work or lack thereof you do in this life has real consequences my friend. Tread carefully.

[Leo Gura]

22 minutes ago, Consilience said:

Nothing about your experience is invalid. The actuality and ontological implications of your experience aren‘t invalid either. The metaphysical ranking you’re giving them though, the importance you’re giving them, is a distraction and based on what you’re saying, false. This falshood is not to say they’re invalid or not real. The meaning is false. Thinking this is anything other than more mind and somehow higher than God or beyond God is false. 

I never said they were higher than God. They ARE God, since everything is God.

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Chasing these altered states will only lead to misery

I am not chasing altered states. I am exploring the limits of consciousness because I have already reached Absolute Infinity. If I became any more conscious, I'd pretty much be dead.

What you really are is INFINITY. Nothing will ever change that.

But the flippant and arrogant manner in which you dismiss states of consciousness is precisely the stench of Buddhism. Your attitude proves my points for me. This is not an attitude with which consciousness can be fully understood because the only way to fully understand consciousness is to experience its furthest extents without judgment.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Consilience]

On 10/6/2022 at 2:30 PM, Leo Gura said:

Last night I awoke so radically that I went completely beyond nonduality and all human spiritual teachings. Beyond the classical God.

This is what Im critiquing

[Consilience]

26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

But the flippant and arrogant manner in which you dismiss states of consciousness is precisely the stench of Buddhism. Your attitude proves my points for me. This is not an attitude with which consciousness can be fully understood because the only way to fully understand consciousness is to experience its furthest extents without judgment.

The exact same criticism and rationality applies to your understanding of traditional spirituality.

[Leo Gura]

16 minutes ago, Consilience said:

This is what Im critiquing

There are many levels to God, and the levels you are aware of, the classical levels, are quite low. So my statement stands.

[JuliusCaesar]

4 hours ago, RMQualtrough said:

It's the replies man. It's not serious people, they're 4chan paranormal board posters who want to do magic.

I can't be counted among these 4chan posters you reference. In that, I do legitimate supernatural feats, and am aware of other human entities under the same umbrella of practice. Furthermore, in the future, I will endeavor not to accost Leo or anyone else seeking evidence of any powers or abilities they claim to have. And to represent the truthful aspects of your worldview @RMQualtrough to the best of my ability, and do my best to protect you from any material you may find to be offensive.

 

4 hours ago, RMQualtrough said:

Nothing whatsoever to do with any form of so-called enlightenment or any sort of historical nondual spiritual teaching.

It's true that many come here seeking advice in supernatural matters, this is not an entirely foolish action. But it should be done with the understanding that Leo's values don't include such practical utilitarianism in everyday life. Or to be more specific, Leo values truth above all else, or at least in the past he has. Now I'm starting to think he values this alien mouse above all else.

 

4 hours ago, RMQualtrough said:

For real. I'm not just talking BS.

Perhaps some or even many supernatural claims constitute inaccurate and untruthful information. But on what basis do you reason that all of these accounts, and that would include some I myself have posted on this forum, are inaccurate?