Posted October 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: If you knew what death was, you would kill yourself right now to experience it. I could fully sell you on death. But then people would call me a cult leader. Death is a silly human concept, you're claiming it would seem that this frivolous concept points to something real, and I'll grant that with the stipulation that what we're talking about is something very different than what humans imagine death to be. 1 minute ago, UpperMaster said: @Leo Gura If death is that good, then why wouldn't you jump to experience it right now? Clearly, you don't understand what Leo means by death, please consult the forum's guidelines. Potestas Infinitas, Libertas Infinitas, Auctoritas Infinitas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: Imagine you can have a chain of dreams nested within each other, such that if you awaken from one, you are still dreaming. Buddhism will awaken you from one dream, but not the whole chain of dreaming. In the right circles of Buddhism, you awaken to exactly what you describe in your ‘What Does Awakening Feel Like’. These circles might be rare for all I know, but they’re out there if you know what to look for. So from what I understand, you consider that type of awakening to be an awakening from one level of dreaming, but not the whole chain. I would agree with that actually, based on some stuff I’ve experienced on psychedelics, with the caveat that spiritual practice, from my perspective, has proven invaluable to me in making the type of awakening described in your video into more and more of an abiding experience, which has opened up many levels of beauty and release, and which I’m hoping will serve as a platform for deeper insight when I choose to do psychedelics again. Edited October 8, 2022 by uriel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, UpperMaster said: @Leo Gura Well then is there a possibility to even awaken for real, as in is there a final dream to awaken? Yes. INFINITY. 1 minute ago, UpperMaster said: @Leo Gura If death is that good, then why wouldn't you jump to experience it right now? Maybe I will. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Leo Gura said: Maybe I will. Okayyyyyy, time to leave actualized.org Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, UpperMaster said: @Leo Gura If death is that good, then why wouldn't you jump to experience it right now? He wants to jump from an INFINITY sized bridge we gotta build it first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 1 minute ago, spiritual memes said: Okayyyyyy, time to leave actualized.org Shit got too real ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: Maybe I will. What happens tho, what if your just reincarnated and have to go through human petty bs again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: Yes. INFINITY. Yea but doesn't that mean that there are infinite amount of stages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 1 minute ago, UpperMaster said: Yea but doesn't that mean that there are infinite amount of stages. INFINITY is beyond stages. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 How do you know death is infinite love? What if just wakens you up to another dream? What about reincarnation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 1 minute ago, UpperMaster said: How do you know death is infinite love? You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 You don't know what will happen when your body dies because your only experience of death was while your body was alive. Chances are, if you still have unconsciousness in your mind, you'll just get another body and go through the whole thing again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: INFINITY is beyond stages. Ok let me ask this way, what is the stage right before infinity? I'm just trying to understand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, vladorion said: You don't know what will happen when your body dies because your only experience of death was while your body was alive. Chances are, if you still have unconsciousness in your mind, you'll just get another body and go through the whole thing again. If you actually Awoke you wouldn't be saying such silly things. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 1 minute ago, UpperMaster said: Ok let me ask this way, what is the stage right before infinity? I'm just trying to understand You simply have to stop thinking of consciousness as having stages. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 @Leo Gura Just now, Leo Gura said: If you actually Awoke you wouldn't be saying such silly things. So then all these spiritual masters, Ramana Maharshi, Sadhguru etc etc are just bsing about this reincarnation stuff!!!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 1 minute ago, UpperMaster said: @Leo Gura So then all these spiritual masters, Ramana Maharshi, Sadhguru etc etc are just bsing about this reincarnation stuff!!!? No, you can still incarnate as whatever you want. Assuming you'd want to. But why would you? You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, UpperMaster said: @Leo Gura So then all these spiritual masters, Ramana Maharshi, Sadhguru etc etc are just bsing about this reincarnation stuff!!!? I mean if reincarnation is real then it has always been real so nothing really changes that much. Edited October 8, 2022 by seriousman24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 1 minute ago, UpperMaster said: @Leo Gura So then all these spiritual masters, Ramana Maharshi, Sadhguru etc etc are just bsing about this reincarnation stuff!!!? It is totally irrelevant what Leo says or thinks. Leo is for entertainment purposes only. Find out for yourself! Apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Leo Gura said: You simply have to stop thinking of consciousness as having stages. Ok, then your experiencing infinity all the time. I have a feeling I'm going around in circles here hehe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
