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Was it 5-MeO-MALT that produced this God Realization?

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Was is 5Meo MALT that produced this awakening? 
 

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Every psychedelic can get you to a god realization. 5meo dmt and 5meo malt but also regular dmt are especially suited for that. 

I heard that 5meo malt is especially great for infinite love and 5meo dmt especially great for absolute truth. So its great to take different types of psychedelics for different insights. 
 

Leo took a wide range of psychedelics so this explanation probably doenst come from one psychedelic in particular.

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2 hours ago, Jannes said:

5meo malt is especially great for infinite love and 5meo dmt especially great for absolute truth

Infinite Love and Absolute Truth are completely the same.

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@SelfHelpGuy no problem. 

3 hours ago, Vynce said:

Infinite Love and Absolute Truth are completely the same.

They can be experienced by themself. That absolute truth and infinite love are the same thing is another awakening. At least thats what I heard from Leo. I didnt have the experience myself yet.

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5 hours ago, Vynce said:

Infinite Love and Absolute Truth are completely the same.

So is everything else yet we can have very different experiences 


"Sometimes when it's dark - we have to be the light in our own tunnel"

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7 hours ago, SamC said:

So is everything else yet we can have very different experiences 

It might sound a little "Leo-arrogant" like, but no. 

At the absolute, there is nothing "else" and not "different experiences". There is absolutely no distinctions between anything. You cannot even abstract a thought, if this is "this or that". You are Truth, you are Love - this is what comes closest in terms of words - still lightyears away from the actual thing. 

Of course, your ego can say different things about it afterwards. Maybe someone had an awakening to reality as "infinite consciousness" and was so shocked and mystified by this experience, that his ego thinks, that he experience Truth and Love as well.

But actually these two cannot be separated and will always come together. They are not some feature of consciousness, they are the fabric of consciousness itself. 

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21 minutes ago, Vynce said:

It might sound a little "Leo-arrogant" like, but no. 

At the absolute, there is nothing "else" and not "different experiences". There is absolutely no distinctions between anything. You cannot even abstract a thought, if this is "this or that". You are Truth, you are Love - this is what comes closest in terms of words - still lightyears away from the actual thing. 

Of course, your ego can say different things about it afterwards. Maybe someone had an awakening to reality as "infinite consciousness" and was so shocked and mystified by this experience, that his ego thinks, that he experience Truth and Love as well.

But actually these two cannot be separated and will always come together. They are not some feature of consciousness, they are the fabric of consciousness itself. 

It depends on what level of awareness you are at. There are different levels of awakenings. What you say is correct but to awaken to it depends on where you are at. How a child views reality and how you view reality are different. The true nature of reality does not change, but how you perceive it, know it, observe it does. 

 


The same strength, the same level of desire it takes to change your life, is the same strength, the same level of desire it takes to end your life. Notice you are headed towards one or the other. - Razard86

Your ACTIONS REVEAL how you REALLY FEEL. Want TRUTH? Observe and ADMIT, do the OPPOSITE of what you usually do which is observe and DENY. - Razard86

Think about it.....Leo gave the best definition of the truth I ever heard...."The truth is what is..." so if that is the truth.... YOUR ACTIONS IN THE PRESENT ARE THE TRUTH!! It's what's happening....do you like what you see? Can you accept it? You are just a SENTIENT MIRROR, OBSERVING ITS REFLECTION..... can you accept what appears? -Razard86

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Misapprehension involves distinctions which collapse, one by one, as consciousness expands.

First, everything is distinct.

Then, everything is connected.

Finally, .


Apparently.

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4 hours ago, Vynce said:

It might sound a little "Leo-arrogant" like, but no. 

At the absolute, there is nothing "else" and not "different experiences". There is absolutely no distinctions between anything. You cannot even abstract a thought, if this is "this or that". You are Truth, you are Love - this is what comes closest in terms of words - still lightyears away from the actual thing. 

Of course, your ego can say different things about it afterwards. Maybe someone had an awakening to reality as "infinite consciousness" and was so shocked and mystified by this experience, that his ego thinks, that he experience Truth and Love as well.

But actually these two cannot be separated and will always come together. They are not some feature of consciousness, they are the fabric of consciousness itself. 

Yeah for sure.. yet we can sometimes awaken to one facet of it and miss the other one. I've experienced both as one and it is one but reality is so tricky so whatever you believe is, is. The absolute truth is that everything is relative.

The ego is also absolute truth on the absolute level.. and absolute love. The ego doesn't exsist, yet we frame it as that it exsist and interpets something but it's nothing there but truth, love and conciousness which is that nothingness.

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"Sometimes when it's dark - we have to be the light in our own tunnel"

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13 hours ago, axiom said:

Misapprehension involves distinctions which collapse, one by one, as consciousness expands.

First, everything is distinct.

Then, everything is connected.

Finally, .

Exactly


The same strength, the same level of desire it takes to change your life, is the same strength, the same level of desire it takes to end your life. Notice you are headed towards one or the other. - Razard86

Your ACTIONS REVEAL how you REALLY FEEL. Want TRUTH? Observe and ADMIT, do the OPPOSITE of what you usually do which is observe and DENY. - Razard86

Think about it.....Leo gave the best definition of the truth I ever heard...."The truth is what is..." so if that is the truth.... YOUR ACTIONS IN THE PRESENT ARE THE TRUTH!! It's what's happening....do you like what you see? Can you accept it? You are just a SENTIENT MIRROR, OBSERVING ITS REFLECTION..... can you accept what appears? -Razard86

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13 hours ago, Razard86 said:

It depends on what level of awareness you are at.

No, it does not depend. Being infinitely consciousness cannot be compared to some "other infinite conscious state". 

13 hours ago, Razard86 said:

it depends on where you are at. How a child views reality and how you view reality are different.

Correct. In this relative domain, the ego has infinitely many options to corrupt and manipulate the left over consciousness from Love/Truth awakening to its survival game. My/Your baseline level of awarneness and ego dissolution will massively impact how you remember your awakening. 

However, in the direct witnessing of Infinite, omniscient, all comprehensing consciousness, no distinction between Love, Truth, Consciousness, Infinity and God can be imagined. These words all point to the same thing, which cannot be described ever. Since its infinite ;)

This absolute "I'm right and you are not" talk always sounds so opressive and arrogant, but awakening gets so massively corrupted by the ego mind, that its necessary to have some clear words about it. 

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