Leo Gura

Mega-Thread Of Every Trap Within Self-Help & Spirituality

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Toxic spirituality (combined with toxic masculinity): Getting lost/trapped in suicidal thinking and nihilism when it comes to spirituality, thinking that it is the "highest" one can go, and pushing it on others as the highest truth.

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28 minutes ago, puporing said:

thinking that it is the "highest" one can go, and pushing it on others as the highest truth.

Can you think of any example of who does this?

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1 hour ago, thisintegrated said:

Can you think of any example of who does this?

Yes seen it quite a few times on this forum, but not going to name anyone.

 

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17 minutes ago, puporing said:

Yes seen it quite a few times on this forum, but not going to name anyone.

L-Leo who?!?!?!

I don't know any Leos!!

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10 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

L-Leo who?!?!?!

I don't know any Leos!!

Are you gonna be okay? xD


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Losing the ability to connect with "ordinary people" and "uncomplicated joy" because of spiritual pursuits. 


Truth is love. Truth is beauty. Every frame is a painting. ❣ Nothing but love.

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1. Analysis paralysis/mental masturbation.

2. Giving up.

3. Fake positivity: Unnecessarily interpreting every event and situation around you as a positive one, when it is not so. Not being able to look at a situation as it is, observing both positive and negative aspects. Overlooking the obvious negatives of a situation just to avoid mental pain. 

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- Believing certain spiritual messages just because they are said often rather than independently verifying their validity

- Thinking spirituality is not important simply because most people are not practicing it/make fun of it

- Believing spirituality will fix all of your problems

- using spirituality as a means of escape

- thinking that there is one spiritual teacher/discipline who has it all figured out

- thinking you are more wise than anyone else

- Thinking that you will become or stay crazy because of a spiritual experience or psychedelic experience

- not reading

- thinking yourself superior to others because of your spiritual progress

- reading too much (without a meditation/contemplation/yoga/psychedelic practice to back it up)

- Thinking you can make others see spiritual truths

- Not being constantly on the lookout for traps and tricks of the mind

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19 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Going full Conor Murphy. Never go full Conor Murphy ;)

He's actually doing pretty well these days believe it or not

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16 hours ago, JoeVolcano said:

No such thing as too skeptical. What you mean is, thinking you already know better when you actually don't. Which just means you're not skeptical enough, or forgot to include yourself. :)

Haha correct. I meant the lack of open-mindedness, like when a stage orange person hears a stage green person talk about the universe and love and peace, he might dismiss it^^

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Not able to distinguish harry potter magic with hard core spirituality

Reading too much fluff in self help books i.e reading every word by heart , whereas you can just stick to what's needed and read those parts then execute.

Being isolated like a hermit 

Not exploring various kinds of self-help (believing self help= stuff you find inamazon / bookstore self-help section,that's it )

 

 

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believe in something, for example, I am god. integrate that belief in such a way that you think that it is not a belief, but it is direct experience

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5 hours ago, EternalForest said:

How is arguing and debating a trap?

arguing is the idea that someone is wrong

everyone is right according to their level of consciousness

i have no business or duty to step in and speak truth

everyone out there is perfect and exactly where they are supposed to be

i work on myself and i let others be

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Thinking that any perspective is the one true perspective. Whether it be science, rationality, witchcraft, yoga, or any other. Ultimately all perspectives are included in Gods mind. 


Why do I love you?  I don't need a reason.

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Worrying about traps others are making and not what you yourself are doing.

I've noticed this has become more of a pet peeve thread than anything else. 

"Oooh, ooh, I remembered a pet peeve, better go post it in that online forum for everyone to see.  Aaah, that's better."

I mean, get real.

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Overworking is a big one. People don't understand how important work/life balance is.

Work to live.

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7 hours ago, gettoefl said:

arguing is the idea that someone is wrong

everyone is right according to their level of consciousness

i have no business or duty to step in and speak truth

everyone out there is perfect and exactly where they are supposed to be

i work on myself and i let others be

I think high level, intellectual debates are enlightening.

Leo must have been referring to the more tedious, unnecessary, dead-end debates, which I agree are a waste of time.

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