Hardkill

How much has the Biden administration accomplished?

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5 hours ago, Hardkill said:

Then, how worried are you about the possibility of the Republicans of reversing practically every thing Biden and the Democrats have done?

In the short term very worried. In the long term not worried at all because they will lose.

Devilry can only win in the short term.


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11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

In the short term very worried. In the long term not worried at all because they will lose.

But if Trump or someone else like him comes to power again as president and the Republicans end up reversing almost every thing Biden and the Democrats have done, then wouldn't that mean that everything that Biden and Democrats in Congress will have been all for nothing and that things will go back to the way they were like during Trump's presidency?

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Devilry can only win in the short term.

That sound like a vague generality with no specific plan or specific set of reasons as to why the Republicans will ever change their ways. I mean know that there is no way to predict exactly how the future will unfold even when it comes to politics, but generally what do you think will happen that will stop the dangerous authoritarianism of the Republicans? Will perhaps the younger generation of Republicans become much more conciliatory, centrist, fair, and stand up to the extreme right-wingers?

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3 hours ago, Hardkill said:

But if Trump or someone else like him comes to power again as president and the Republicans end up reversing almost every thing Biden and the Democrats have done, then wouldn't that mean that everything that Biden and Democrats in Congress will have been all for nothing and that things will go back to the way they were like during Trump's presidency?

No, things never go all the way back. There's always some progress.

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That sound like a vague generality

Yup, it's a very big picture view.

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with no specific plan or specific set of reasons as to why the Republicans will ever change their ways.

They will be forced to change their ways eventually because selfishness and low-consciousness is self-defeating.

Notice that Trump's narcissism lead to his downfall.

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I mean know that there is no way to predict exactly how the future will unfold even when it comes to politics, but generally what do you think happen that will stop  the dangerous authoritarianism of the Republicans?

The simple fact is that right-wing policies are just not popular. Majority of Americans don't want far right policies enacted. And if they are ever enacted they will work so poorly that they will have to be revoked soon enough.


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Even if midterms and the 2024 elections aren't completely disastrous for democracy in America, the Republican Party isn't going to be out of power forever.

US institutions have done little in the way of enacting safeguards to prevent a better organized Republican Party from being successful in thier next coup attempt.

It's highly probable that in the next 10 to 20 years the US will shift to what's known in political science as hybrid regime (that's a mixed democratic authoritarian regime, ala what exists in Russia).

This isn't a doomer mentality, as there are structural reasons for this. US political institutions literally don't have the capability to address the underlying root causes behind the rise of authoritarianism, as those who benefit from the destruction of democracy are in a position to block reforms that could begin to address underlying root causes .

Root causes such as wealth inequality, for-profit propaganda syndicates given free license to manipulate public sentiments, and the undemocratic nature of the US Senate and Supreme Court, just to name a handful of things that are making the gestalt shift away from SD-Blue so tumultuous.

So hang on to your butts, it's going to be a rough ride here in the States. The only solution I see is social solidarity around democratization politics, but I suspect that won't gain significant traction until Right Wing authoritarianism makes things so bad for ordinary people that the country can unite around tossing Right wing autocrats out of power.


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Why almost all presidents are above 50 years old? 

Because what they cannot do to their wife's they doing it to the country!

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14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

In the short term very worried. In the long term not worried at all because they will lose.

Devilry can only win in the short term.

Can it though? What if GOP strong-arm and bully their way to the top and overthrow elections? Who's actually going to stop them?

I would have thought that North Korea would have collapsed by now. And granted it's still a relatively young country but its Nazi style regime has lasted surprisingly long.

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@Frylock

2 minutes ago, Frylock said:

Can it though? What if GOP strong-arm and bully their way to the top and overthrow elections? Who's actually going to stop them?

I would have thought that North Korea would have collapsed by now. And granted it's still a relatively young country but its Nazi style regime has lasted surprisingly long.

   It's mainly because of it's geography and close proximity to China, that it has survived this long. The same can be said for America, with it's blessed geography and biodiversity.

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1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Frylock

   It's mainly because of it's geography and close proximity to China, that it has survived this long. The same can be said for America, with it's blessed geography and biodiversity.

Also, North Korea has always been in close proximity to Russia too. In fact, after the Russians occupied the northern half of the entire Korean Peninsula (the original whole entire country of Korea before it split into North Korea and South Korea) around 1945, the whole northern Korean population was forced to adopt the Soviet Union's communist/socialist style of government. 

I do worry that America might one day turn into some kind of hybrid regime kind of like @DocWatts is saying. However, after studying and learning a lot more within the recent months on US history, world history, current events on domestic cultural affairs, international cultural affairs, concepts pertaining to sociocultural evolution, and what have you I don't really think anymore that there is any significant chance that the USA will turn into some kind of authoritarian regime like in Russia, China, North Korea, or in any other 2nd or 3rd world autocratic nation out there.

While America's democracy certainly has notable concerning flaws (hence having been officially downgraded from being a full democracy to that of a flawed democracy), it still been overall successful in America (for the most part) and has been firmly established within all of American culture for so long (for well over 2 centuries). In fact, up until about the turn of the new millennium, did the level of democracy of America continually increase in the long-run since the very beginning of the history of its existence. Although since around 2003, the LGBTQ+ community has been increasingly gaining significantly  rights, especially ever since Obama first became president. The June 15, 2020 US Supreme Court ruling that the 1964 Civil Rights Act protects gay, lesbian, and transgender employees from discrimination based on sex was undoubtedly a historic win for all LGBTQ+ Americans.

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@Leo Gura Nationalism is a very powerful force. As long as the Right keeps tugging on that string, they will have a lot of votes.


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16 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

No, things never go all the way back. There's always some progress.

Yup, it's a very big picture view.

They will be forced to change their ways eventually because selfishness and low-consciousness is self-defeating.

Notice that Trump's narcissism lead to his downfall.

The simple fact is that right-wing policies are just not popular. Majority of Americans don't want far right policies enacted. And if they are ever enacted they will work so poorly that they will have to be revoked soon enough.

Is that why the Republicans have been doing worse and worse with the national popular vote for presidential elections in the long-run since 1992?

Is that also why Republican US senators have been way overrepresented for far too long?

Is that further why the 2 years that Warren G. Harding was president, the first two years of Herbert Hoover's presidency, and first two years of William H. Taft's presidency, were the only three very short periods of time since 1911 (which was around the time the GOP shifted back more to the right) that Republicans ever had a more than three-fifths supermajority in either chamber of Congress? 

Is that additionally why the Republican Party became increasingly unpopular during the Gilded Age because of their growing right-wing extremism? 

Is that why liberals on the other hand have had massive majorities or supermajorities in each chamber of Congress many times more than conservatives have had in all of US history? 

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6 hours ago, Frylock said:

Can it though? What if GOP strong-arm and bully their way to the top and overthrow elections? Who's actually going to stop them?

It will never stick. US is too developed for that.

6 hours ago, Frylock said:

I would have thought that North Korea would have collapsed by now. And granted it's still a relatively young country but its Nazi style regime has lasted surprisingly long.

US have very different culture, norms, and institutions than NK.


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4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It will never stick. US is too developed for that.

US have very different culture, norms, and institutions than NK.

What are your thoughts on my last post?

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@Leo Gura the US was in a civil war just two lifetimes ago.


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2 hours ago, How to be wise said:

@Leo Gura the US was in a civil war just two lifetimes ago.

Slavery was popular just two lifetimes ago.


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On 2022-04-15 at 10:28 PM, Hardkill said:

given the 40 year high inflation

I'm not into US politics that much, but the inflation can hardly be attributed to Biden. The fed is balancing between raising interest rates high enough to fight inflation (but will most likely cause a recession) or not raising interest rates (or atleast not that much) which will keep the economy afloat but letting inflation run wild.

Expect inflation for quite some time. The fed will moat likely choose the lesser of the two evils. Not raising interest rates high enough and letting inflation run its course. Of course if it goes waaay to high than yes, they have to hike the rates, but then a recession is very likely to occur as long as quantitative easing isn't on the table. 


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On 16/04/2022 at 0:32 AM, Leo Gura said:

His accomplishments have been huge, especially when you consider what would have happened if Trump remained in office.

Just not having Trump and his idiots in power is a huge accomplishment at this point.

The least successful President in history will be Trump.

Ok, but what if you compare him to somone actually good, not Trump. 

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On 4/17/2022 at 8:30 PM, Leo Gura said:

It will never stick. US is too developed for that.

So developed that Trump actually received more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016?

The racist, fascist bigot who let COVID spread and continously sparked culture wars for over 4 years gained more popularity.

Yes... he did lose. But he was well on his way to reelection if not for a 1 in 100 year pandemic in his last year in office.

All Republicans have to do to maintain power is dummy the education system, which they're doing rampantly, and continue to gaslight and obstruct. We already live in two very different United States and that divide is going to continue to widen over time. The bullies will seize the upperhand, and the complacent and increasingly uneducated citizens aren't going to do a damn thing about it. Jan. 6th 2021 was a horrific threat to American democracy, and it's only going to get worse unless this lackadaisical system actually holds government officials accountable for their actions. Spoiler alert: It won't.

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On 4/18/2022 at 5:48 AM, mojsterr said:

Ok, but what if you compare him to somone actually good, not Trump. 

Like who?

Obama, Bush, Clinton. Reagan?

I will take Biden over them.


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Who even cares.  US politics sucks.  What's the point in talking "Trump good, Biden bad, Biden good, Trump bad", etc.  It's childish. This is the most boring topic anyone could come up with.  If you want a good conversation, debate Andrew Yang's ideas or something.. smh

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