Sadhguru on Joe Rogan Experience

[Porphyry Fedotov]

Well in my opinion there're infinite degrees of awakening. You can trip all your life and only scratch the surface. Even if Sadhguru hasn't experienced  5-meo-DMT or DPT levels of consciousness that doesn't mean that he isn't awaken. He is definitely more conscious than an average person. Also his wrong social takes are just his wrong social takes. Growing up and waking up are different things and have different dynamic. There were awakened af zen masters who supported Japanese imperialism  during WWII (I'm not condoning an imperialism here, just saying)

On the whole very interesting podcast, too bad Rogan didn't ask him about DMT though lol

[mojsterr]

44 minutes ago, Porphyry Fedotov said:

There were awakened af zen masters who supported Japanese imperialism  during WWII (I'm not condoning an imperialism here, just saying)

What if some of the people who awaken and suddenly see how everything is a big game sometimes just say to them self "fuck it, since nothing really maters, I'm gonna play the bad guy this time, just for fun"

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, mojsterr said:

What if some of the people who awaken and suddenly see how everything is a big game sometimes just say to them self "fuck it, since nothing really maters, I'm gonna play the bad guy this time, just for fun"

That's part of post awakening growth actually.  But eventually you know deep within that this is falsehood and you ultimately step in line with yourself and Truth.   God is Goodness but not for any reason as Goodness must be for itself and is prior to any egoic reason.

[Ulax]

On 15/03/2022 at 10:44 AM, Carl-Richard said:

I get strong transmission from him. I'm sure other people can confirm this.

Transmission? What do you mean by that?

[Carl-Richard]

59 minutes ago, Ulax said:

Transmission? What do you mean by that?

When you listen to someone talk or even look at them, their state of consciousness is contagious, whether it's filled with negative or positive emotional content. This is how empathy works. Likewise, listening to an enlightened person tends to have a specific effect, and for me, I immediately get pulled into a meditative state. In fact, it's sometimes so strong that I have to stop watching, but that has to do with how I'm constantly living on the brink of persistent non-symbolic awareness and have done so for almost 2 years now after I gave up spiritual seeking, and it happens by itself if I relax for a while. I'm actively fighting it every day by intentionally comprimising my health just enough to stay "normal", because I fear death.

[Benton]

@Epikur All of his courses are completely free in rural parts of India. 
It only costs so much for those who want ac.  He also runs a massive organization which takes money to run. If you volunteer you get access to a lot of the stuff for free as well. Many of the people who have paid for the courses have said that the Benefits are worth the money. Which just with inner engineering I can say is true for me.

What are your reasons for thinking he is a fake? 

[Epikur]

49 minutes ago, Benton said:

@Epikur All of his courses are completely free in rural parts of India. 
It only costs so much for those who want ac.  He also runs a massive organization which takes money to run. If you volunteer you get access to a lot of the stuff for free as well. Many of the people who have paid for the courses have said that the Benefits are worth the money. Which just with inner engineering I can say is true for me.

What are your reasons for thinking he is a fake? 

I am not calling him fake that would be wrongspeak

I am just asking questions where his fanboys never give answers to it. Like in my other posts. Just check it.
Do you know what he said why that one course is 6,5k dollars?

Many times he does not answer direct questions. Many times he says the opposite of what he said another time.



https://www.ishaeducation.org/insight/about-insight-2/

[Benton]

14 minutes ago, Epikur said:

I am not calling him fake that would be wrongspeak

I am just asking questions where his fanboys never give answers to it. Like in my other posts. Just check it.
Do you know what he said why that one course is 6,5k dollars?

Many times he does not answer direct questions. Many times he says the opposite of what he said another time.



https://www.ishaeducation.org/insight/about-insight-2/

Is it in the video?

[Epikur]

Just now, Benton said:

Is it in the video?

Just check my posts. The vid is in one of them.

Read the thread there are a lot of points made by others as well.

 

[Benton]

32 minutes ago, Epikur said:

Just check my posts. The vid is in one of them.

Read the thread there are a lot of points made by others as well.

 

I didn’t find anything that seemed off really with his insight program.And I went into it looking for that.  What is the problem? 
I’ve already seen their posts on here.

Ok I understand your perspective now. Thank you for the discourse.

Edited March 17, 2022 by Benton

[Chi_]

17 hours ago, Epikur said:

I am not calling him fake that would be wrongspeak

I am just asking questions where his fanboys never give answers to it. Like in my other posts. Just check it.
Do you know what he said why that one course is 6,5k dollars?

Many times he does not answer direct questions. Many times he says the opposite of what he said another time.



https://www.ishaeducation.org/insight/about-insight-2/

Isha Insight is specifically a programme for business people and usually multi millionaires attend that program in the ashram. I was in the ashram myself when the 2019 insight program was happening. The CEO of TATA worth billions of dollars was also one the guests at some point in time.

 

As @Benton pointed out above, his courses are absolutely free in rural parts of India and the price of the courses increase relative to how well off the people participating are. It costs $150 in western countries because most of us can afford it compared to poor people in rural areas. Same goes for this insight program, if you are a multimillionaire/billionaire, $6500 is going to be pocket change. So if they are to keep providing free programs in rural areas, they need money which they get from the people who are well off to pay it.

Having said that, they do provide a "high class" service (accomodation/ dining / etc) during that program for these business folk. So they kinda get their money's worth, more or less. 

Edited March 18, 2022 by Chi_

[Epikur]

Right wing Joe: Let us talk about greed it is a problem
Sad: NO that is relative
Right wing Joe: Again let's talk about greed
Sad: NOOOO
 

 

[mojsterr]

What the hell did Sadhguru even say? Joe asks one thing, Sadhguru starts talking something completely different. I want to scream at the screen when I'm listening to him. I can't take this.

Joe is here and Sadhguru is somewhere.

It is a waste of air and energy. Just answer the man. How hard can it be?

Edited March 18, 2022 by mojsterr

[Carl-Richard]

16 minutes ago, mojsterr said:

What the hell did Sadhguru even say? Joe asks one thing, Sadhguru starts talking something completely different. I want to scream at the screen when I'm listening to him. I can't take this.

Joe is here and Sadhguru is somewhere.

It is a waste of air and energy. Just answer the man. How hard can it be?

Sadhguru likes to give a lot of context when answering each question, which is a good thing when you're dealing with a novice audience, but also the way he speaks in general is extremely interconnected and holistic. Each sub-point much be understood relative to the larger point, which of course is long-winded and easily mistaken for endless rambling. He always comes around in the end if you let him go long enough, but the common interviewing style is way too impatient for that, so he tends to get cut off too early. People are accustomed to short bullet point answers. Their attention spans don't allow for wisdom.

[voxun]

Sadhguru is like the ultimate spiritual businessman running an unbelievably complex organization. He has done a lot of good in this world.

I just think he goes of on tangents when Joe was asking about the aliens. He had to ask him several times and not get a satisfying answer. 

No jesters giving sadhguru the finger ?.

Obviously its just entertainment and the message about the soil is a good one.

[voxun]

4 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Sadhguru likes to give a lot of context when answering each question, which is a good thing when you're dealing with a novice audience, but also the way he speaks in general is extremely interconnected and holistic. Each sub-point much be understood relative to the larger point, which of course is long-winded and easily mistaken for endless rambling. He always comes around in the end if you let him go long enough, but the common interviewing style is way too impatient for that, so he tends to get cut off too early. People are accustomed to short bullet point answers. Their attention spans don't allow for wisdom.

Probably true about mistaking it for endless rambling but we just want to know about the aliens ?

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Epikur said:

Right wing Joe: Let us talk about greed it is a problem
Sad: NO that is relative
Right wing Joe: Again let's talk about greed
Sad: NOOOO
 

 

Sadhguru's answer is exactly correct.

He is saying what I say: everyone acts from good intentions. Including greedy people. All the evil in the world is done from good intentions. To not understamd this is ignorance.

[KingCrimson]

Very enjoyable podcast. I don't watch much JRE, so I might not be able to judge this correctly, but anybody else notice how Joe seemed to behave differently around Sadhguru than he does with other interviewees? Less loud, less brash. It felt like Sadhguru's peaceful presence was rubbing off on him.

[Epikur]

40 minutes ago, mojsterr said:

What the hell did Sadhguru even say? Joe asks one thing, Sadhguru starts talking something completely different. I want to scream at the screen when I'm listening to him. I can't take this.

Joe is here and Sadhguru is somewhere.

It is a waste of air and energy. Just answer the man. How hard can it be?

If you did not like this you will not like this even more.

Sad comes off like an a...
 

 

Edited March 18, 2022 by Epikur

[Carl-Richard]

17 minutes ago, KingCrimson said:

Very enjoyable podcast. I don't watch much JRE, so I might not be able to judge this correctly, but anybody else notice how Joe seemed to behave differently around Sadhguru than he does with other interviewees? Less loud, less brash. It felt like Sadhguru's peaceful presence was rubbing off on him.

That's transmission right there