John Iverson

Ukraine vs America

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Can someone educate me on what began this war in the first place? What actually happened, what is the backstory, and more

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Don’t be lazy and do your own research.


أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله وأشهد أن ليو رسول الله

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Im not against you doing your own research but ill help ya out anyway lol. This sums it up well.


Focus on the solution, not the problem

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No one is entirely sure what made Putin come to this crazy tactic to begin with but it is agreed he has been  planning it for some time.  First he moved troops over from Russia to the border of  Ukraine and said it was only for military practice and they were not invading Ukraine.  And he kept moving more troops and more equipment there.  Then suddenly last Tues. the troops moved across the border and headed for the capitol city still saying he was only going to demilitarize the area which is a small area with resistance fighters.  But the troops just kept on going to the capitol city.

Now there are troops all over Ukraine and it seems Putin wishes to bring down the Ukraine government and reclaim Ukraine which used to belong to the Soviet Union up until 30 years ago.  He has now made public speeches claiming that Ukraine was never a separate country and in reality , it still belonged to Russia, which is a lie.  For 30 years Ukraine was a recognized independent sovereign nation.  Putin says he demanded that they do not join the Nato alliance, but they gave him no assurance.  So he decided to take action because  Nato is a threat to him. [Nato has been an alliance for 70 years and never was a threat]  Others believe he has other reasons to start a war, mostly, wanting to reclaim the Soviet Union the way it was before it broke into smaller nations.  I think he's got something wrong with his mind and he's imagining stuff, even against his own advisors.

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This war has been going on effectively for 8 years now, since the ceasefire treaties never ended officially the hostilities, and the global public was kept in the dark about it, about this little dirty secret powering some part of it's economy, and downplayed of it's reignition and escalation for global economic stability reasons, similarly how the US kept in the dark its own population for the intent to invade Iraq officially in US documents confirmed since 1999, but some claim even before the Gulf War because of the human rights atrocities against minorities during the Iraq-Iran war happening there before hand by the Iraq Baathist regime led by Hussein that America helped and sponsored but later because of those humanitarian atrocities deeply regreted and felt a obligation and responsibility to depose him at some point. 

The official Wikipedia page on the topic openly confirms, verifies and admits this, that this war never in fact ended and that we are now in fact only just seeing the latest escalation of it and the attempt of it's resolution, reaching a decisive peace-deal:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War

Edited by Fleetinglife

''society is culpable in not providing free education for all and it must answer for the night which it produces. If the soul is left in darkness sins will be committed. The guilty one is not he who commits the sin, but he who causes the darkness.” ― Victor Hugo, Les Misérables'

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6 hours ago, Kamo said:

Im not against you doing your own research but ill help ya out anyway lol. This sums it up well.

Yeyy this is the start of my research, i dont even know where to start. Thanks for this one. If you want to discuss things just comment it out

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2 hours ago, Fleetinglife said:

This war has been going on effectively for 8 years now, since the ceasefire treaties never ended officially the hostilities, and the global public was kept in the dark about it, about this little dirty secret powering some part of it's economy, and downplayed of it's reignition and escalation for global economic stability reasons, similarly how the US kept in the dark its own population for the intent to invade Iraq officially in US documents confirmed since 1999, but some claim even before the Gulf War because of the human rights atrocities against minorities during the Iraq-Iran war happening there before hand by the Iraq Baathist regime led by Hussein that America helped and sponsored but later because of those humanitarian atrocities deeply regret and felt a obligation and responsibility to depose him at some point. 

The official Wikipedia page on the topic openly confirms, verifies and admits this, that this war never in fact ended and that we are now in fact only just seeing the latest escalation of it and the attempt of it's resolution, reaching a decisive peace-deal:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War

Thankss for this

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