Leo Gura

Taking Down Solipsism Video

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19 minutes ago, Joel3102 said:

That’s literally what Leo was describing. Basically everybody you know are NPCs in a video game 

The thing is, if that is what he thinks then you have direct evidence that he has gone crazy, of course, as you are aware.

I noticed in his video he maybe was using time in an odd way, and just a few things that he said made it unclear. Which sucked because I wanted his clear opinion on whether he believes in NPCs or merely every experience being had by the same nobody.

When he said for example, that others are not seeing simultaneously to you. Well, simultaneous kind of works within the confines of time. As we actually experience time, we only experience "now", and in our experience, that "now" moment changes in content.

If you were at the beach a week ago, that experience is being had "now" just like whatever content has filled that space. If you had no memory of that event, and no ego, that experience could as well be ascribed to another individual. There is no difference between an experience you had but don't remember, and another person's experience in this moment... As it is all "now" and simultaneous as such. It is the apparent passage of time that spreads it out like the pages of a flickbook when the entire flickbook exists as a single unit, already whole and complete.

In terms of NPCs, when you look at a person, everything about them is a construction of mind, their appearance is a hallucination, etc etc. Their true "appearance" is nothingness. As there is not really anything "out there". Also true when you see your own face in a mirror. The person in the mirror does not have experience from the side of the mirror, no image has experience and all people including your own reflection are images. All experience takes place in the same HERE and NOW. Literally the "perspective" from which you view everything is the same precise location from which the images of other people standing in front of you also see the world from... But to confine it to one ego etc, it is very peculiar.

It's more like all people are you experiencing the world (also you - nothingness) via different masks and egos built upon a story of memories. You are experiencing me typing this in the same way you experienced an event you remember from last week. It is all now, all simultaneous.

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10 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

Somehow I managed to see the whole thing minus the last minute cuz I was workin,

 

It didn’t satisfy me. 

You missed the best part, where Leo wished this type of video would have been available at the beginning of his journey, to save himself some time and confusion... xD

Maybe he'll read this comment and reconsider making it available again.

Edit: and just before that, he says his teachings will become more radical and less compromising... And if we don't keep up he's going to 'leave us in the dust'... 

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1 minute ago, Mosess said:

There is no video, you are being gaslit. 

@Mosess No, there was in fact a video, but it's been made private now.

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I personally think there's some kind of flaw in Leo's understanding of solipsm. It's based on truth and there're elements of truth to it. But there's something that smells like fish also. The spreading of that disharmonious smell is what caused a backlash of suffering and pain probably so he had to remove it. (I could be projecting here)

When truth is shared, it doesn't smell like fish it smells like pure love and harmony.  When rupert spira speaks about solipsm it has a certain truth vibration of harmony to it. When false teachings are shared, escpesially on a large scale, the natural consiquence is that of pain and suffering. (According to buddha) but also it makes sense.

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1 minute ago, Salvijus said:

I personally think there's some kind of flaw in Leo's understanding of solipsm. It's based on truth and there're elements of truth to it. But there something that smell like fish also. That fishy smell is what caused the suffering and pain probably so he had to remove it. (Could be projecting here)

What does he expect the reaction to be, when you're telling people their whole lives are a dream and everyone they know is just zombie in their dream in the most obnoxious way possible?

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55 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Lol. ? they should remove some of those points from you if you behave good for a period of time imo

@Salvijus great idea:))

@Leo Gura this guy should become an admin!!


Please do not take anything I say as an insult. I have 17 warning points and I'd like to stay on this forum.

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8 minutes ago, Joel3102 said:

What does he expect the reaction to be, when you're telling people their whole lives are a dream and everyone they know is just zombie in their dream in the most obnoxious way possible?

Well it doesn't trigger me at all when a sage says it or rupert spira says it.

But when leo says is, it's like pure pain in my system that I have to meditate to rebalance myself. So imagine if he just caused that pain to 1000s of people online. All that pain probably boomeranged back at him by the laws of karma.

Im just guessing and perhaps projecting here but i think there was an upheaval of pain in leo when he released that video that's why he removed it. Otherwise he would play his usual card "I only speak the truth, whether you like it or not is not my problem"

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I am honestly really bummed.  This was the one video I was really looking forward to.  I wish people could take a quiz or something and those who pass it could watch it or something like that lol.  I guess I am just gonna have to stop imagining that there ever was a solipsism video.  Leo, please consider uploading it in the future.  If you feel like it is too big for us to handle, can you give us a quiz, have a paywall, or build us up to it?  

Don't let the children derail your work.  Some of us here are adults who are ready for Truth.  Let the spiritual selection take its course for those who don't want Truth.  @Leo Gura

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8 minutes ago, Joel3102 said:

What does he expect the reaction to be, when you're telling people their whole lives are a dream and everyone they know is just zombie in their dream in the most obnoxious way possible?

You've misunderstood

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1 minute ago, Chris365 said:

You've misunderstood

how so?

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Just now, Joel3102 said:

how so?

You still think you're a person, and as such, see 'people'. This is why certain concepts are misinterpreted by the 'person' and would not help.

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@Joel3102 no, you understood it correctly

YOU ARE THE ONLY THING THAT EXISTS

You are on this forum since 2016, how is this breaking news to you? 

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I don't understand why he deleted it. I have watched the whole thing and it wasn't as radical as many of his other videos. My guess is that someone flagged the video or left some crazy comment in the comment section, otherwise there is no rational explanation.

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4 minutes ago, Jakuchu said:

YOU ARE THE ONLY THING THAT EXISTS

Yes to this, but the other part, about 'people' being NPCs/zombies, is not true.

People, NPCs, zombies are just thoughts, expressing concepts 'you' made up.

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1 minute ago, Chris365 said:

Yes to this, but the other part, about 'people' being NPCs/zombies, is not true.

People, NPCs, zombies are just thoughts, expressing concepts 'you' made up.

Sounds like just a reframing of the same thing. Essentially other people aren't real

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3 hours ago, Bufo Alvarius said:

Can you maybe include a download link for us somewhere? I would love to watch it, was anticipating this vid for so long @Leo Gura

3 hours ago, lostingenosmaze said:

@Michal__  The most obvious option would be a Patreon incentive. Maybe even make it a high tier ($50-100) if Leo's wants to only teach it to serious people

These are interesting options.

@Leo Gura how about just posting the video on your blog with a disclaimer or (instead of taking it down, making it unlisted and) sharing it in the forum? 

 


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i actually watched the whole thing and i was like holy fuck i feel sorry for other people that did not watch this i am serious right now, one of the best and maybe even the best video that leo ever uploaded

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6 minutes ago, Brivido said:

My guess is that someone flagged the video or left some crazy comment in the comment section, otherwise there is no rational explanation.

10 minutes before the video got taken down, there were only positive comments. Most people, who watch his videos so early are subscribers, who are fine with Leos teachings. 

Besides that, when did Leo ever take a video down because of rude comments? If anything, his "outrageous experiment in consciousness" video would be the first one to delete after that logic.

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2 minutes ago, Joel3102 said:

Sounds like just a reframing of the same thing. Essentially other people aren't real

Yes, but if the person is deconstructed enough, seen that it's an illusion, then it's not such a big jump (none at all actually) to the realization that 'people' are  same as 'you', unreal.

On the other hand, if you're seeing yourself as real (like 99.9999% of humans), it's a big deal to hear that people are not real.

Suggestion here is to start inspecting your beliefs about who you are, basically self inquiry. @Nahm had a great post on it a few days ago

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