Leo Gura

Taking Down Solipsism Video

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Some people watched it, and some didn't. It's unfair. The ones who didn't watch it feel outside, like they missed out on something, while others don't.

Now some people here can say: "Ha! I saw the video, and you didn't. I'm now further on the path than you are!"

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1 hour ago, Scholar said:

I get an immature vibe from this post. It feels like you got annoyed by something and now you are "Well, bad luck you idiots now I won't share my treasures with you! See who will laugh last!".

It is fine to not share it but why can you not explain this in a more reasonable manner? I don't know what happened, but if there was a negative reaction that hurt you feelings so now you don't want to expose yourself like that anymore than just say that, it's fine. Or if you think it could be damaging to some people then say that. But the way you frame it, it looks more like you are too immature to handle the backlash.

I also got the feeling that he did it because of a emotional reaction. And that's ok, he's just a apparent human in this reality. But hopefully he will upload it again soon after he has calmed down.

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Solipsism is the ultimate solution to not knowing the things that can be known. The Universe has a structure, has rules, has laws that can be known, in terms of what is a Soul, what is God, what is Love, what is the true origin of human, why this all, why good why evil, why suffering and all that. The problem is your lazy ass! You want to have all your worldly possessions and pleasures like limitless sex, limitless wealth, control over others while you also want to know what is God and why all that. 
You can’t just skim through a religious or esoteric order’s teaching and draw conclusions and validate your preconceived assumptions by swallowing a psychedelic on top of it. It just doesn’t work like that. Bad news! I know it’s painful to hear this but it just doesn’t work like that. When you actually go inside those religions or esoteric orders, and you don’t dabble around just to label yourself an open minded, to quench your thirst of knowing all the others, then you will realize that True christianity and their notion of God as a Deity (Father), or other esoteric and mystery schools are QUITE SOMETHING. Once you know the truth, Which is not solipsism, of course you will become free. But there is a path that you need to follow. Don’t listen to me, don’t listen to Leo. Stop your stupid solipsistic worldviews and actually go and get initiated in a mystery school. Research about them and join. Endure the pain of keeping your long-love solipsistic views away, and actually go and get engaged with those schools (Given that you will be admitted). You will then realize. Once you know, you know it. Stop wrecklessly taking psychedelics. There is a good reason for why there are Psychedelic Shamans. Let me also tell you this: Psychedelics, meditation and yoga is not the only way for spiritual growth. Spiritual path is not at all waking up from a dream or something like that. Go and actually become a member of an esoteric order or mystery school with a good reputation. Make sure you do your own research. And on the proper divine timing, you will know. What you will know is not communicable, it’s ineffable. And that knowing will set you free. 
 

Blessed be

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Lol, you guys don't get it. If you haven't awakened to the truth in the video, you don't want to watch the video. If you have awakened to it, it doesn't matter if you watch it or not. The video is entertainment for the awakened, and a disaster for the seeker who seeks awakening.

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28 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

solipism is true, you are alone. absolutely. it's easy to see it with 5 meo or any psychedelic if your ego dissolves. the problem is : and the others? everything is my mind, without mind there is nothing, only being remains. all the bubbles look like one. but how to explain the others? it is obvious that they have their own apparent experience, just like you. ok that they are illusory experiences, ok they are you, but to say the disturbing idea that no, they are just extras from your movie... what's the point? it is obvious that it is not so. this is what I do not understand? why not explain it clearly?

I agree. Leo is saying that other gurus are vague about not explaining that solipsism is true. But he is doing exactly the same thing explaining from one side that his bubble of expierience is true and then that true is only your bubble to who he is pointing to.

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The point is that solipsism isn’t true; it is a belief system.

Whatever the truth is is something to become conscious of by oneself.


I am God. I am Love. I am Infinity. I am Batman.

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@Leo Gura Why not just post it on your blog?


"Wanting keeps me from the awareness I already have it. I already am it.” — Byron Katie

 

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1 hour ago, Batman said:

Yes. I was diagnosed with ROMC. That stands for Radical Open Mindedness and Concentration.

Lol I was actually being serious... I've definitely noticed that Bipolars are prone to spontaneous awakening experience, with or without "learning" things. There is a Bipolar on this board who will surely confirm @BipolarGrowth and also Frank Yang has Bipolar disorder.

And also on many non-spiritual self help related videos, there is a personality type where it's just like "omg my entire life is changed by this video!" flooding comments. I'm very curious as to the relation. I enjoy psychology a lot.

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I don’t believe it is possible to awaken by feeding information to the entertainment-seeking intellectual mind, which will always makes a mess of it.  There needs to be a path.


Vincit omnia Veritas.

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17 minutes ago, Mahyar said:

Solipsism is the ultimate solution to not knowing the things that can be known. The Universe has a structure, has rules, has laws that can be known, in terms of what is a Soul, what is God, what is Love, what is the true origin of human, why this all, why good why evil, why suffering and all that. The problem is your lazy ass! You want to have all your worldly possessions and pleasures like limitless sex, limitless wealth, control over others while you also want to know what is God and why all that. 
You can’t just skim through a religious or esoteric order’s teaching and draw conclusions and validate your preconceived assumptions by swallowing a psychedelic on top of it. It just doesn’t work like that. Bad news! I know it’s painful to hear this but it just doesn’t work like that. When you actually go inside those religions or esoteric orders, and you don’t dabble around just to label yourself an open minded, to quench your thirst of knowing all the others, then you will realize that True christianity and their notion of God as a Deity (Father), or other esoteric and mystery schools are QUITE SOMETHING. Once you know the truth, Which is not solipsism, of course you will become free. But there is a path that you need to follow. Don’t listen to me, don’t listen to Leo. Stop your stupid solipsistic worldviews and actually go and get initiated in a mystery school. Research about them and join. Endure the pain of keeping your long-love solipsistic views away, and actually go and get engaged with those schools (Given that you will be admitted). You will then realize. Once you know, you know it. Stop wrecklessly taking psychedelics. There is a good reason for why there are Psychedelic Shamans. Let me also tell you this: Psychedelics, meditation and yoga is not the only way for spiritual growth. Spiritual path is not at all waking up from a dream or something like that. Go and actually become a member of an esoteric order or mystery school with a good reputation. Make sure you do your own research. And on the proper divine timing, you will know. What you will know is not communicable, it’s ineffable. And that knowing will set you free. 
 

Blessed be

Finally someone said it.Well done ,sir.

Bubble pop.

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3 hours ago, Niko7a said:

I thankfully watched the full video, i dont want to make you feel bad but i want you to know that this was not just worth watching, this was one of the best videos that i have ever watched, extremely understandable and practical, i feel sorry for people that did not have the opportunity to watch it fully, I kinda understand why would he delete it, if you dont have a healthy mind this content might be extremely damaging, but i have an idea for you leo, what about this; you start making videos about emotional healing, emotions in general, where you would give down to earth practical advice on how to achieve a healthy mind state, basically making a newer and more advanced versions of your old videos where you would talk about things like, accepting your emotions, how to overcome fear, how to be authentic, how to accept your(HUMAN)self, Trauma Work etc etc.. and after a decent amount of time you start uploading videos about vanilla spirituality again, there is a reason why i am telling this, i stopped watching your videos and doing spiritual work after your video about karma, that was not that long ago but listen to this, every single day up to that day, i would be literally spending almost all of the time, contemplating, using psychedelics, rewatching your videos, journaling, meditating, watching other peoples videos, reading books on the topic,i just felt exhausted and things weren't moving anywhere and a video about karma clicked for me and thats when i stopped, i started working on my emotional body, i actually asked myself what do i really want first time in my life, i actually accepted the emotions in me, the thougths in me, i talked to more people i started focusing on money more, i started facing my fears and suddenly, i came back, watched your video and got an epiphany so fucking easy, it was extremely easy , it was so easy that i felt actually sorry for me back then when i was literally forcing and burning myself out just to understand something THAT WAS LITERALLY IN FRONT OF ME, AND I JUST HAD TO LET GO FOR SOME TIME, and i actually dont just cry over the fact that i am alone and that the only thing i am is actually experience, i actually feel non resistant to it and i am slowly integrating everything together, there is no reason for me not to be happy if i am aware of this, there is no reason for me to kill myself because of that, that is an unhealthy bias, THERE IS A HEALTHY WAY TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS AND TO BE HAPPY IN LIFE, so this is my advice to you leo, shift your topics to health and wholeness for some time, that is the sticking point in this whole story, and then after you do it you can easily post any video you want and deeply know that you did everything you can to make people more prepared to hear what is meant to be heard, i know that you did not post it because you want to protect the weak and unstable ones, but i think that you are able and capable to do more than hiding shit under the rug. Basically let's let go of spirituality, so we can focus more on ourselves, so we can let go of ourselves easier, so we can understand spirituality even more, not fighting the urges, wants and needs, being in resistance to your needs is too painful for it not to affect your spiritual progress, make progress in illusion understand it from inside and then from outside , there are infinite ways to get enlightened, but there are more healthy ones and more unhealthy ones, i think that wholeness approach is always the wisest one.

   I definitely second this. We need way more videos about healthier development more than advanced spiritual teachings, because if most of the advanced concepts too commonly have the infinity and GOD realizations, then it's a matter of time of noticing that it's becoming too repetitive. 

2 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

This solipsism makes utterly no sense. Some other guy in the forum, was told that he was the creator of reality and is all alone in this universe. I know that if I ask this, then I’m going to be told that I solely created created reality and that no other conscious minds exist. Leo comes back and says that he’s the sole mind of existence. This make utterly no sense. So which one of us created reality? Because according to solipsist logic, no two solipsists can sit in a room together and agree to solipsism, because only one of them is the sole conscious mind in existence. And yet here we are on this forum, all being told that we are the sole conscious mind in existence. I’m sure I’m going to be told that I’m God/the sole conscious mind playing a sneaking trick on myself to think that no other people exist, but that’s exactly what someone else on this forum was told. So which one of us is the sole conscious mind, and who is the philosophical zombie?

Husseinisdoingfine, it’s you, you’re just in denial. But that’s exactly what someone else on this forum was told!

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15 minutes ago, RMQualtrough said:

Lol I was actually being serious... I've definitely noticed that Bipolars are prone to spontaneous awakening experience, with or without "learning" things. There is a Bipolar on this board who will surely confirm @BipolarGrowth and also Frank Yang has Bipolar disorder.

And also on many non-spiritual self help related videos, there is a personality type where it's just like "omg my entire life is changed by this video!" flooding comments. I'm very curious as to the relation. I enjoy psychology a lot.

No, I am very stable mentally. I also like Psychology, but a lot of it is way too conceptual for my taste. Even the diagnosis of Bi-polar disorder is an analytical stretch. There are different ways to emotionally relate to circumstances, and different patterns of relating. Trying to pinpoint a psychological pattern of relating to a certain circumstances is too inclusive when it comes to personal diagnosis. In other words, there can be many individuals who will fall under the term of Bi-polarity, but the reason for their behavior and the appropriate treatment is extremely varied.  

I would seriously doubt how many of the comments that claim that video is life changing, are genuine. 

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5 hours ago, Tim R said:

 

 

5 hours ago, Tim R said:

 

The notion of a "bubble" in which you live is deeply misleading. You are not inside the bubble. The bubble is inside you.

This is basically the summary of it all. "Solipsism" as a concept is within the bubble too. The experience of that kind of Cosmic Loneliness would also be within the bubble of experience.


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4 minutes ago, Purple Man said:

"Solipsism" as a concept is within the bubble too.

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@Leo Gura ultimate truths cannot be translated to words, so you are not a prophet. Prophets don't exist. 

You are a spiritual entertainer. But don't be bothered if your art doesn't entertain some people. You are not speaking to them anyway.

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I totally understand and respect your decision to take the video down, Leo.  Thank you for letting me listen to at least an hour of it.  It was very beautiful and profound.  ?? Namaste 

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9 minutes ago, Barna said:

@Leo Gura ultimate truths cannot be translated to words, so you are not a prophet. Prophets don't exist. 

You are a spiritual entertainer. But don't be bothered if your art doesn't entertain some people. You are not speaking to them anyway.

Very well described. I don't get this super seriousness neither. The video was very entertaining, the guys that are enlighten don't  need any of these videos anyway, for the rest of us (with healthy psyche) this is a very interesting and entertaining concept like many of the other ones. And for the guys with unstable psyche there was more than enough warnings... so to put this video down doesn't make any sense for me at all. 

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@Purple Man

17 minutes ago, Purple Man said:

This is basically the summary of it all. "Solipsism" as a concept is within the bubble too. The experience of that kind of Cosmic Loneliness would also be within the bubble of experience.

   Furthermore, that experience of Solipsism depends on the person's stage of development, cognitive and moral development, states and trans states, and other domains of life. If you asked a baby, a homeless person and other species of Solipsism, or tribal people, criminals, priests, business and rationally minded scientists, hippies and new agers, and spiritual masters from Zen Buddhism or other spiritual orders, the range of answers you will get is going to differentiate vastly from one another, the only consistent range of answers mostly comes from those who have a western culture background and study philosophy, to then have the information ecology to understand Solipsism on a surface level.

   In terms of cognitive development, Solipsism may or may not exist. For an extreme example, a person that has multiple personality disorder, in his/her direct experience no such thing as a consistent, only existing self exists and others are an illusion. To a schizophrenic's, with deeper hallucinations of outside elements Solipsism might exist for them.

    Solipsism has little value to those who have higher levels of moral development. To people who value humanitarianism, environmentalism, animal welfare, wellbeing of others, Solipsism has little value. It's those who have lesser moral development that Solipsism starts having more value as the person is less concerned and empathetic to others outside of the person's self.

   Solipsism further breakdowns due to having different personality types. To personality types that have a body bias, and are much more extroverted, find little interest in philosophical ideas versus an introvert type. 

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Do not PM me asking for the video.


You are God. You are Love. You are Infinity. You are Leo.

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